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I’ve felt this so many times before. But when I’m feeling okay I remember that real love us unconditional.
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Yes but what does that mean exactky though? Doesnt all love have its limits ? Like what does unconditional love even mean ?
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@Lucywilefire Disclosure: I’m going to speak from experience, and not everything I have to say applies to everyone. I have experienced this so I understand where you’re coming from. I believe all love does have limits. Love does not have to be unconditional. But it does have to mean that they accept your flaws to the extent that their own well-being can handle it, because you need a big support system and individuals cannot hold the entire weight of your own issues as well as theirs. Chances are you are not actually unlovable, but it could be that people can tell more than you think that there is something going on and don’t always know how to act around you. Some probably want you to get real help for what you’re experiencing. Going to therapy is a great start, but I’ve found that dealing with these things is an entire lifestyle. Years of therapy. Sometimes multiple types of therapy from multiple therapists. Sometimes it means medications, too. But you have to be willing to take charge of your life and be invested in getting help and changing because focusing on the depression just makes the depression more severe. It becomes a vicious cycle. If you want to be depressed, you will continue to be depressed. You have to address it in a functional way that makes sense for you, and you have to be willing to do whatever it takes to get the help you need. I’m not going to validate your thoughts because I don’t believe that they are valid. But being honest with the people around you about how you’re feeling is a good way to start. Addressing each issue individually and then as a whole is next. Also remember that saying you’re unlovable is not fair to the people that do love you. You’re essentially saying that their love for you isn’t valid and they’re wrong for doing it, and that’s not fair to them. If you keep telling yourself that no one loves you, eventually it may become reality. Hold on to the relationships you do have and try to be honest with people without dumping all of your trauma on them. I’ve been friends with some pretty miserable people, and often they don’t even realize how they’re affecting others. Eventually you end up leaving because they want to just stay miserable. I’m grateful my friends stuck around when I was feeling miserable, but I was also there for them when they were. Relationships go both ways.
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@Lilith666 You absolutely don’t have to agree with me. It might be different for you. But that’s what I’ve experienced.
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@Lilith666 I also want to add that for me, it took major events that literally pushed me to the breaking point to realize I didn’t want to be that person anymore.
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@Lilith666 I dont think anyone can tell though like im ridiculously talented at hiding it, in our friend group im the "happiest" one and to my parents im the golden child. I do go t9 therspy for ocd and try to stay on top of things so i dont thnk im severely depressed just resentful of people since i feel like i cant talk to them? I guess i just dont know what the boundary is on what i can tell people and at what point im a burden. Like if i can find it id pribbaly tell people. And im also generally terrified at the prospect of telling someone becuase vulnerability is horrifying since someone else will have immense power over me and im not sure if i even want that since my depression still seems to be improving. Im really not sure what i want to do
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@Lucywilefire Not everyone is going to understand what you’re going through, but if you’re open and honest with everyone and just accept not everyone will understand, then you’re not letting them hold a power over you. If they stop being your friend, then that’s a them problem that’s not a you problem. They probably weren’t great friends to begin with. And it’s also not fair to them to resent them for something you’re doing and assume they won’t understand what you’re going through. It’s good to set boundaries, because boundaries are really important. But part of those boundaries is saying “listen, I’m struggling. I’m working to get through it, but I’m not perfect and I really need your support.” And if they don’t understand then at least you tried. But if you try to go through everything alone, then you’re going to keep feeling alone.
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@Lilith666 Im just not sure at what point its considered dumping my problems on them and at what point its healthy. I think its a complex issue
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@Lucywilefire There’s a difference between saying “I’m letting you know I’m experiencing something difficult and I’m asking for support while I work through it” and just trauma dumping. You ask them to make their boundaries clear, and also establish that part of your boundaries is letting them know you are going through something, whether or not that means giving them details. Not saying anything at all doesn’t do anyone any good.
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@Lilith666 Ty!
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I feel completely unlovable. I have a difficult time getting close to people because of my OCD and I have to force myself to not compulsively seek reassurance. I feel like I’ll never find my person. I’m worried I’ll be an awful wife because of my inability to do anything. I want to show up for my partner, but I feel stuck because of my OCD. I think it’s safer to just be alone.
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First off - I’m sorry, I post here a lot. My thoughts are going to be scattered because I have the adhd/ocd/executive dysfunction wombo combo. Im so embarrassed I am THIS neurodivergent. I swear my brain couldn’t pick one struggle and settle with it. I’m not making these diagnoses quirky personality traits by any means, in fact, in this post im venting about how exhausting and embarassed I am living with a brain like this on the daily. I need to hear someone’s advice please. I love hearing everyone’s advice on posts because it’s so useful, and brings me back down to reality. Everyone on here gives advice so tastefully in a way where it doesn’t feed into the self reassurance compulsion, but it’s also been thorough and constructive enough where it’s reminded me to ground myself in a healthy way. I love seeing others helping others, it soothes me. This community has been so kind, and I’m so happy I found it. I wish I could ask more, but I have so many questions I think it’d drive everyone here crazy lol. I am doing erp therapy now, and it’s been teaching me so many amazing techniques. I’ve been making progress. However, I sometimes have my moments of vunerablity. I’ve been experiencing this especially now more than ever because I am going through a breakup. He did it through text after nearly 9 months together. I’d do anything for him and love him through anything, and he broke my heart when I least expected it. I’d make his bed for him multiple times, but I haven’t done that for myself in years. I’d sit with him for hours to watch and do anything he likes, but he’d never do the same and I’d never do the same for me. I’m also at fault because I was too scared to speak up so I let a lot of disrespect slide. Why did my ocd do that? Why does ocd make me people please even when I don’t want to? Why does OCD make me care so much about things that will never effect me (like wanting validation from a random person on the street and hoping they’ll think I’m pretty enough to look at), but then when it comes to my future or positive wellbeing (like focusing on college/doing well in classes/personal hygiene/health), forces me to not care/neglect myself and those needs? I don’t understand it. Ocd makes me think everything’s a setup or a trap. I can never believe that I am fine right where I want to be. Why am I so hard on myself? Why do I even think this much? I care and feel so deeply but it becomes unhealthy so fast because ocd makes me fixate and I stay there for a while. For some reason I let this breakup define my self worth. I let it topple into the ocd fear that I will never make it in life - that I won’t be successful, I’ll never get the career I want, the love I want, or the life I want. My OCD’s version of “logic” isn’t even logical. Yes, I understand how the breakup means feelings of low self worth which will then topple into feeling bad about other things. But why has my brain been wired to think this way? Why does it seem so easy for everyone else to function normally with life but not me? Honestly this is the first time in my life where I’m dedicated to focusing on myself and learning more about myself instead of others in my life and it’s a very odd and bizarre feeling. I’m excited of course, but I’m also scared. My ocd makes me ruminate like “what if I will never make the most of this life I’ve been given”, “what if I truly have no worth and the most I will ever be in other people’s lives is a background character”, “why do I care if I’m a background character or not? I should feel guilty and ignorant for assuming everyone will automatically like me”, “are people lying to me when they call me pretty, smart or kind?”, “I need to look and sound perfect in both pictures, videos and in real life. I will never be satisfied for accepting who I am now”, and a bunch of other annoying questions. But sometimes it’s like I just can’t take the reality for what it is but at the same time, but I also acknowledge that I know this is ocd talking. This is so, so difficult. Do I make any sense with what I’m saying? Can anyone help?
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Around 10 years ago when I started getting violent OCD intrusive thoughts, I also started fearing that I was a sociopath. I began overanalyzing everything — especially my emotions. It's like if I could prove I had emotions it proved I wasn't a sociopath. I care deeply about my family — I worry about them, I want them to be safe and happy, I want them to get theit deepest desires — but I don’t know what love "feels" like, if its supposed to feel like anything. People describe love as this warm, obvious, fuzzy emotion, but I don’t experience it the way I think I’m supposed to. Is it supposed to be intense? Constant? Loud? Because I’m not sure I’ve ever felt that. My family isn’t very emotionally expressive either. I cherish hugs from them when I get them, I initiate most hugs with my parents (but I don't like hugs from other people, like co workers) but overall my family doesnt show affection much, and that’s made me question if I’m even capable of love. I overanalyze my feelings constantly — especially after realizing I don’t feel connected to God in the way my old church said I should. I don’t love God. I don’t feel anything toward Him — we’ve never met obviously so I just never got a connection with Him. But growing up, that felt like a sin in itself. As a teen, I felt ashamed knowing I cared more for my parents than for God, especially when church messages said God had to come first. There’s a song by Mary Mary that says, “I love you more than my mother, my father…” and it used to make me feel broken. My feelings were in direct contradiction with what I was taught, and that shame never fully left me. OCD latched onto that hard. It’s only after a coworker passed away — and I found myself crying multiple times over it — that I realized I do care deeply for people. But even that realization felt pathetic. Why did I need such an extreme moment to feel something “real”? & why didn't I care for another creepy bigoted co worker when his son was sick? I felt nothing. I’m scared my OCD is convincing me that I’m heartless, even though I want connection. I crave love. I like hugs. It’s exhausting and terrifying to doubt my own humanity like this. I hate this fear. I hate that I don’t trust myself. I hate that OCD makes me question my morality, my emotions — everything that makes me me. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? How do I even explain this to a therapist
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