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I guess all depends on the severity of your ocd. @anonymous caterpillar, you are probably lucky enough that your obsessions don't paralyse you
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My obsessions do paralyze me, often to the point that I can’t function. it’s just that they are so unconnected to real life that it would be impossible to think up an exposure for them. There are tons or real life triggers, but it’s impossible to guess beforehand what they might be.
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yeah, i really so. i struggle a LOT with the idea of intentional exposure, because unintentional is how things usually go out in the world. talking about my ocd thoughts makes them bigger and legitimizes them, and for me, im more likely to be successful ignoring a compulsive desire if i just... dont give it anymore thought
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Thanks for the reply! Yeah, I’m not too sure why intentional exposures are always what’s recommended first, since responding correctly to natural exposures from living your life and disregarding the thoughts you already have can be just as effective, or even more so, and although it’s difficult, I think people would be much more willing to do that that purposeful exposures, especially at the beginning. Maybe someone else will respond and explain why they think purposeful exposures are helpful for them, since I’m really curious to know.
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@anonymous caterpillar 🐛 i think the idea behind it is that intentional exposure works differently. like, if i am doing this thing with the goal of doing this thing, i know it is coming and what to expect. for me, that's exactly the issue--i DONT know whats coming on a daily basis, so preparing for it with intentional ERP is like taking an exam you already know the questions for. unintentional exposure, then, is taking an exam for which you dont even have a study guide.
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@anonymous caterpillar 🐛 that said, let me also be clear that i am not dogging ERP. i know its the "gold standard" for OCD treatment, and am currently undergoing it.
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@teeth Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I’ve actually never thought of that before, but that’s a really good point!
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@teeth It’s good that you’re not dodging ERP. I’m not either, I’m just taking a different approach. I try to disregard the thoughts I naturally get, and I make sure to not avoid the things I might be scared of that I would normally do, which could be considered a purposeful exposure, but it’s just a of more natural one, and not really a structured ERP exercise.
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If your OCD is telling you you can’t have a conversation with someone or do anything until you get over this thing, you need to stop following OCD’s commands and do those things anyway. You’re not truly disregarding it until you go on with your normal day.
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I think the intentional exposure is for people who are so afraid of their obsession, that in real life they would never manage! So in a fake and prepared setting, knowing that it's just an exercise, might be easier to have some power on your obsession/anxiety
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hm, well, no one said they dont. does abandoning everything in your cart or that you just bought and running home while having anxiety attacks, then taking 3 hour showers sound paralyzing? because thats my thing, and i still think learning to deal with exposures in the wild would be more helpful to me than provoking them
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Yes, for me any planned exposure would not work because all the triggers have to be found in actual real life for them to scare me. I pick up things from pretty mich anywhere and make up some extremely scary story about it. The randomness of it is why it’s so scary, and since the things can be from anywhere, I would have no idea what kind of exposure to do. It seems like living my life in itself is an exposure.
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it all depends on your personal experience, imo, and what you struggle with on a day to day basis
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- 25w
I had just posted a summary of ERP for a group member, and I thought it might be useful for everybody. Here it is below (with a little extra added)…. ERP therapy is researched-based. Most other therapies don’t work. There have been people who have been literally stuck in their houses (from their OCD) who gained their lives back through ERP therapy. NOCD does ERP therapy exclusively. You can find it in other places too, but you have to ask around. There are two tenants of ERP therapy: The first one has to do with the repetitive thoughts inside our heads. These thoughts are actually defined as “obsessions”. You are not supposed to do anything with the obsessions. You are supposed to let them run through your head freely, without trying to fix them or stop them. Imagine a tree planted by a river. The leaves fall off and float down the river. You can see the leaves falling, but you don’t try to stop them or pick them up. You don’t try to fix them. You just let them float away. This is really important to do with your obsessive thoughts. The more you try to fight them off, the worse they get. I used to have blasphemous sentences running in my head 24/7. I felt like I had to put a “not” next to each sentence in order to “fix” it. But this just took hours of my time every day, and it was very scary, because I was worried that if I messed up, that I would go to hell. It was very freeing to learn later that I could just let those sentences run freely through my head without trying to fix them. The second part of ERP therapy is all about “denying your compulsions.” Every time OCD tells you that if you don’t do things a certain way that something really bad will happen, that is a compulsion. Once you recognize what your compulsions are, ERP therapy will have you practice stopping doing all of those things. For some people, that will mean stopping washing their hands or touching lights switches or, in my case, putting “fixing” words in their head. Compulsions are safety behaviors. During ERP therapy, you will practice stopping engaging with safety behaviors. All this is very hard to do and scary, so during therapy you will be given tools to help you deal with the fear. Often ERP therapy will take people from being non-functional to functional. I highly recommend it. ————————————————- PITFALL #1: After you have been doing ERP for a while and become somewhat successful, the OCD will try subtle little tricks to bring you down again. The first one is to tell you that your thoughts are REAL and not OCD, and therefore you can’t apply ERP therapy. Don’t fall for this trick! All thoughts are just thoughts. They are all meaningless. Don’t try to figure out what is real and what is OCD. Just treat all thoughts with ERP therapy. PITFALL #2: The second pitfall is that OCD will tell you that you can’t move forward unless you have absolute certainty that you will be safe. Hate to tell you this, folks, but there is no certainty in life. You will never know for SURE that you or your loved ones will be “safe” from the OCD rules. Therefore, you have to move forward in the uncertainty. It’s hard, but it gets easier with time and practice. We got this, guys !!!!!!
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Has anyone had success treating their OCD without medication and solely ERP or non-medicinal methods. I have pretty severe OCD and just about every sub-type, but I’ve been on various meds (SSRI & SNRIs) for going on 8 years and have never found one that truly relieves me of symptoms. I’m looking to see if it’s worth continuing with the side effects I experience (mostly mild) or if there are alternatives that could work for me. Low key tired of constantly changing meds in an attempt to find something that works when maybe medicine isn’t the route for me…
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I read about ERP and have seen information about it on here. One of the goals is to say, "maybe I am this or that...ect." That terrified me. The thoughts and images that go in my head are disturbing and upsetting. I don't want to even think about saying, "maybe this or that." It's devasting to have these thoughts and question why you're having these thoughts. Doesn't the "maybe" make it worse? The one thing that helps me is that is to remind myself that these are just thoughts and I know I'm not a monster, even if I feel like one. Is ERP not for everyone? Has anyone else had a problem with the techniques used in this kind of therapy? I had cognitive therapy for years with an OCD specialist and that seemed to help a lot. Writing out the worst case scenarios would make me suicidal. Im having a difficult time not obsessing over the "maybe" after intrusive thoughts now. It doesn't make it better.
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