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- 2y ago
Honestly, it's advice like #1 that made my home life a living hell for the majority of my life. Telling people not to create an enabling environment is like telling them to make sure you suffer. My OCD has only started getting better when I moved into a stable environment with someone who is compassionate enough to help me by doing the things I can't do. Only then was I able to slowly improve at my own pace and handle certain triggers when I was ready. I had to do it by myself because professionals keep giving counter productive advice like this. You're more likely to drive people to suicide that way.
Thank you for speaking up! I completely agree with you.
I think its very nuanced and their explanation is over simplified. Enabling makes it worse but the partner or parent needs to be COMPASIONATE too.
Exactly
It breaks my heart reading some of the comments on this post. I would never want someone to be turned off by ERP because I have seen its impact on so many people and I have seen it be life transforming for the positive. I think that each therapist brings with them unique experiences and abilities and approaches. If a therapist you are working with isn't helping you I would encourage you to always seek out another one. At NOCD what that looks like is just calling us and requesting a new one- there is nothing wrong with that- sometimes people just need a different personality to connect and relate to and that is okay. The most important goal is that you get better and live the life you are wanting to live. I think that when done in a compassionate and caring, person centered manner, ERP can be such a positive experience. I have seen time and time again people who have regained their lives, me included. One of the components of ERP is helping family members or partners understand their role in providing accommodations to their partners which may help seemingly in the short term but we know that long term this often makes their symptoms much worse. And this can be a positive thing when done from a heart of compassion and understanding of the impact that this has in the moment for the sufferer. I, myself have children with OCD- one of the most loving things I can do is help them with their own ERP- they may want reassurance about something in the moment and I may know that I could give them that but then in a day they would want it again and the cycle of anxiety just continues- as parents or even loved ones, it is knowing when to push and when to support. Working with a specialist in OCD can help you determine the best approaches. I wish you all the best.
I had the same concern as Kuno in regards to the advice I was given. I think NOCD needs to address this and discuss it with their therapists. Yes, it is true that accommodations can impede progress but there has to be a fine line drawn. I feel like some the advice my daughter was given came across to her as bullying her to try to resist her compulsions which she of course resisted completely. She now gets mad at me when I try to do ERP with her like I’m being mean to her. I know some of that is the OCD fighting back but she feels like she’s broken and I’m trying to fix her. Compassion and understanding needs to be as much a part of a therapist’s response while encouraging the patient to stand up to the OCD. Empower the patient without making them feel worse.
Yeah that's exactly how I felt about the current gold standard of treatment for OCD. When you break it down it's really just a form of torture meant to make the patient fear the therapy more than their compulsions so of course when they ask if they're still having the same rituals they're going to act like they're better because they don't want to be abused or tormented anymore which is why they claim such a high success rate. The most important thing you can give your daughter is stability and empathy. You guys will have to work at your own pace and personalize the treatment to what motivates her and makes her happy specifically.
@Kuno Wow good analysis! 👌 I have found agreeing on which accommodations my husband will stop before hand (as in we BOTH AGREE) helps tremendously. But it has to be a consensual exposure for the person with ocd. Consent is important espescially for people with ptsd ocd like me since I was abused. Forced exposure actually feels a bit like assault.
@compulsion5000 Gosh this is so helpful to read!!!
I totally agree with you Kuno! 👍
I agree with you too Kuno
ERP has only made my OCD worse! 💙🙏
I think my partner has rocd or relationship anxiety and I don’t know how to help him. The questions about my past sex life and partners is tearing us apart, it is daily, sometimes hourly when he gets into a tailspin and I’m getting frustrated which doesn’t help. I have been googling this and found rocd, which seems to fit but I’m petrified to bring it up to him as he is extremely well educated and has a psych minor degree and uses that when we argue. Any idea how to initiate a conversation about this would be so helpful. Thank you!
Ocd and try to regulate emotions. Are there any recommendations
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Same here and yes it does feel like you said it’s so hard when people want or force us to deal with that because it feel horrible to experience those sensation again, you are lucky you have someone like your husband who listens to you and try to really help.
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