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- Jenna Overbaugh
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I’ve definitely suffered from lesser known subsets like Somatic OCD and Intelligence OCD (the fear of being dumb)
I need to read up on this intelligence OCD! It doesn’t help that I already give off dumb/airheaded vibes as a natural way of socializing. I wish there was a support group for this or something.
@yun444g Sometimes I wonder if I’m the only one who has it. I know I have it because it attacks me just like any other theme.
@joshuawilliamstennis96 Yeah, and it’s hard too when lots of people are self conscious about their intelligence anyway, it just so happens that we worry about it more. Also if you look up “intelligence OCD” you don’t really find much pertaining to that specifically, you have to dig a little deeper.
@joshuawilliamstennis96 Omg I have this too I thought I was the only one. I get significant anxiety from this
@yun444g Me too. I act like that around friends but deep down I’m super serious about being intelligent and scared of being dumb
Same! One of my main subtypes is intelligence ocd.
@yun444g Me too!
I'm identified as gifted and I STILL think I'm dumb. I had never heard about intelligence OCD before, but this is eye opening. I thought I was the only one.
I have major fears that im a failure or disappointing people around me. I also have fears that im an awful person and im annoying/everyone secretly hates me. Anyone else struggle with these?
Yep same :(
Yep
I do!
Same!
Existential OCD hits me like a truck
Same
Me too
Same it is so difficult but also it was such a relief to me to learn that this is a known subtype, even if it is one of the less common ones.
Same here too.
Snap!
Feeling like nothing is real or that I could be possessed
I have this one too
I often wonder if I belong here!
I feel the exact same thing.
I have this one too!
I have something that's sort of like harm ocd except im afraid of causing psychological harm sort of... I get scared/obsessed that I could have a disorder such as NPD, and that I might unknowingly hurt or traumatise those I care about. I think it's also sort of related to 'cancel culture' and a fear that if I'm not morally perfect, I might hurt my friends or mess with their heads. I get intrusive fears down to the simplest things like, "I'm probably being a bad listener that that probably makes my friend feel generally invalidated in our friendship", or "I probably come across lazy and my friend will think I simply don't want to help with cleaning up after our meal and that will ultimately reflect that I don't care about them, thus hurting their feelings and our relationship". I feel like I can't express these things as being ocd related because people might tell me, for one, that I'm contributing to personality disorder stigma by being so disproportionately afraid of having one (such as NPD), or, related to the second stuff I mentioned, that I'm just a people pleaser etc. But these obsessions can be so overwhelming, so hard to see through, even if I know what my values and beliefs are and I believe in being compassionate towards one's imperfections and humanness...
I think there is a correlation in ocd and people pleasing at this point. Almost everyone I know who has ocd has people pleasing tendencies. Wonder where it stems from.
I just want to say I relate to what you described a lot! I’m terrified of causing psychological harm— “what if I offended this person, what if I responded wrong, what if I didn’t respond enough, what if I didn’t ‘stand up’ to someone saying something offensive,” ultimately with the fear that I will traumatize someone or lead them to judge and hate and exile me. I think I’ve heard this described as “moral scrupulosity.” Anyways, I wish I heard more about it in general so I appreciate hearing your experience!
@ari3 Omg yes. Why did I never think of this
I feel that with the cancel culture influence, especially living in the Midwest—I feel like if someone says an off color joke about race or homosexuality or something, I feel like I need to correct them or else *i* will get cancelled or something
@ari3 It makes it harder when we’re always encouraged to stand up for ourselves no matter what—this is good in theory, but with OCD that message can kind of muddied and we put so much pressure on ourselves to literally always do that.
@Itsheathersocd Yeah absolutely - it's funny you raise the correlation because I was just pondering on a walk today, and it hit me that people pleasing tendencies could be yet another compulsion.
@ari3 Gosh, I so appreciate hearing your experience too - incredibly reassuring to hear that yes, others get similar fears and compulsions and yes, it can be part of ocd. And yeah absolutely, moral scrupulosity subtype encapsulates a lot for me too!
@yun444g Mmhmm I feel that, kinda like a 'black and white' perspective on our choices (such as the choice to stand up for oneself or someone else in a situation or not), where our decision is being driven by "shoulds" instead of intuition/feelings
@ari3 - I can relate to this
@tired_holly - People pleasing could be the result of a number of things, sometimes in combination (trauma, empathy, reputation) but you're right that with OCD it could become a compulsion.
@Itsheathersocd Why is this I wonder?
@tired_holly Yes!
I’ve had Relationship OCD involving non-romantic relationships as well as the OCD fear of anxiety ruining a special moment. I think the worry abo it being judged for these fears is mainly what kept me from seeking help in the first place
Yes! The fear of anxiety ruining special moments has been a dominant theme for much of my life. Thanks for sharing it!
Taking on other people's symptoms is one I have had. That's why I really don't want to read these posts that much
That’s what I’m worried about. I have read some of peoples stories about thier ocd and it is way scarier than mine. I’m scared that now I have the idea and it will happen to me.
@Bd2 Yes that is something I hope therapy can help me with. I've suffered from OCD for over 25 years:(
@Bd2 Me too
My main theme for many, many years has been contamination from bodily fluids of people of certain 'types (e.g. people who look unclean or maybe have issues where they may not be clean), people who have overstepped OCD bounds and hurt me tend to then bother me more, as well as other strangers that just bother me on sight. At one point all elderly people bothered me. So as these people could be anywhere, then everything beyond my sphere of control is considered contaminated. What made me feel like it wasn't like other contamination OCD examples is that don't fear germs (beyond normal concern) and don't fear that something bad will happen due to the contamination. Since joining NOCD, I met people on here that feel the same way and my therapist says that it is common, and yet whenever she, or other therapists talk about this type of OCD then they always fall back to it being the fear that the person or a loved one will get sick (even the section about contamination OCD on this site and in Dr. McGrath videos). These preconceptions made me doubt if ERP would work as had not realized the nitty gritty of how it works and just thought that it 'proved that the bad thing wouldn't happen. Obviously this is not realy how ERP works, at least not in general terms, and it is more like accepting the feelings and uncertainty and slowly your brain doesn't respond in the same anxious way it did before. I really think that the description of contamination OCD should clarify that it can just be a pure phobia of having the contamination on yourself or possessions without the addional fear of 'what if'.
This really resonated with me, and I think I needed someone else to say the same thing for me to finally come to terms with it. We’re not alone.
@Anonymous - Same here- its kind of reassuring to know there are other people who've struggled with the same thing, especially when you feel like you don't make the cut for being 'OCD' enough in fitting the exact diagnosis of subtypes etc. rn I can't touch my sister or mum or anything they've touched- it just makes me feel dirty and almost feels like an itch I've got to wash away or else it really bothers me for the rest of the day. I'm tying to tackle it head on which is why I'm looking to start ERP and I'm finding discussions like this really help :)
@LandRoverLover So true. I know ERP is supposed to help but I’m actually terrified of it.
So so well said. Contamination isn't a major theme for me (though it's absolutely there), but I relate to that slight discrepancy in how themes are typically described, and my own experience of the obsession/compulsion cycle. I don't have as much of the "magical thinking" that follows - like how some people struggle with the fear that, for eg, if they don't wash their hands a specific number of times then a loved one will contract a disease, or if they don't flick the lightswitch off and on upon passing, the nearest vehicle will crash - that kind of thing. For me I don't have a clear vision of what might happen that's driving my fears; I'm just scared - the feeling of contamination, for example, is distressing all by itself.
@Anonymous Me too!
Exactly!! I just don’t want to feel icky or touch anything with ‘icky’ hands that would make that ‘icky’ and it snowballs from there, less I gave to clean EVERYTHING involved!!! VERY TIME CONSUMING people! 🥹
@Anonymous *have
@Anonymous If you are like me this also means locking things away that can't be cleaned, hoping that there will be a time I can touch them again, or simply throwing, or giving, something away. I gave a digital camera away and a suitcase after using it just once. I have thrown countless objects out.
@Anonymous It is not easy but definitely works
@tired_holly I was told when I was younger that there had to be a clear vision of what might happen, but I didn't have one. It's such a relief to know someone else is distressed just by the thought/feeling instead of a magical consequence! Thank you so much for commenting.
Sensorimotor here 👋🏻
Existential is a nightmare combined with generalized anxiety disorder. Such a roller coaster. Your mind can make you believe anything. Just started erp for it plus extra meds
Fear of saying a bad word is heavy for me. I’m glad to hear it’s a general OCD experience. I suspected it as an intrusion but it’s still hard to say I’m not a bad person when I keep “thinking” about throwing unprompted slurs in casual conversation.
Me too
Yes. Mine seems to revolve around focusing on what about me is “not good enough” - for a while I obsessed over the size of my hands (small), then later it was a fixation on my dating and sexual history as evidence I’m not good enough. I’ve never seen this mentioned as a subtype but given my history it’s almost certainly OCD and I was diagnosed via this app.
You should read the book “I am Enough” by Marisa Peer. It really helped me- I definitely feel this too!
I struggle with this a lot too! Sometimes it almost looks like social anxiety rather than purely OCD, even. I also try to steer clear of looking for reassurance in general so a lot of people am surprised when I tell them I suffer from being obsessed with feeling inferior.
Yeah always with the 'not good enough' thoughts for me. Perfectionism and just right OCD
I have a kind of relationship ocd/moral scrupulosity that makes me afraid my boyfriend is going to say something inappropriate/offensive/racist/sexist etc, or that I’ll find out he holds really problematic beliefs. It’s so challenging because no one is perfect and everyone has things they do that are problematic at times I realize but with my bf I’m analyzing everything he does, or says for anything wrong and then I feel this overwhelming moral guilt if I my ocd tells me there’s something wrong, like if I stay with him I’m bad, even though in reality he’s a wonderful person who shares my values. My erp therapy on NOCD is definitely helping me though.
OMG I relate to this a lot!!! I feel this way especially towards older people like my parents who sometimes do in fact have outdated / borderline problematic beliefs. It makes me feel like a neurotic perfectionist when I’m hardcore analyzing everything they say. So yeah I feel you dude, sorry you have to go through that with your SO of all people.
Another thing I’ve noticed too is that, for example, if my dad happens to simply change the channel away from a show with minorities or shy away from listening to rap or something, it makes me assume he’s super racist and I NEED to confront him about it or else I’m a terrible person 😱
@yun444g It’s good to hear I’m not the only person who has this experience! Because it’s not very common so it’s really easy to be unsure if it’s my ocd or just the right way to be or if my SO is doing things that legitimately something I should be upset about or not. My therapist helps with that though because she helps me see that it is usually my ocd effecting how I see things like that.
@Anonymous48 I relate to this: the constant back and forth about what I may or may not actually believe in or want to do
Emotional contamination is a huge one for me! The “vibes” of certain movies, places, songs and people are enough to make me want to avoid them. Gotta do the opposite and throw myself into them!
It’s so tough to force ourself to embrace these things, but I know that I’ve now been able to enjoy music that I’ve missed while avoiding it for years! Definitely worth it 😁
Same!! If I looked at a psychotic looking homeless person, or a scary poster in a doctor's office or a "bad vibes movie" etc for too long I felt all of this. It's scary to force yourself to look at them or take them in but it has helped a bit for me!
My main ocd obsessions are about having a psychosis, losing my mind and scared of feeling bad or weird.... also a lot of questions about if im in a dream etc
I get this one a lot! Rotates with lots of Existential OCD thoughts.
@anotherunknown Gurl, I totally get that! A lot of us question things sometimes but OCD can make it really intense.
@Matty A Intense is definitely the word for it! Here if you ever need someone to share Existential woes with
@Matty A Is that true?! That explains a lot!
@anotherunknown Existential woes unite 🥹
Me too! Often like "what is real? Is this real?" I also worry im insane or have things that I'm missing and won't ever understand and that it means I'm getting more insane
Okay me too… and then someone told me the thought they were encountered by aliens and now I’m crying every day terrified I’m going to think aliens are following me or something…. And I know that’s crazy thoughts so now I’m terrified I have/ will go crazy
@It is well with my soul You're worried you will worry about something... Ah the worrying about worrying is the worst
So I always feel like I’ve forgotten something, and I just can’t put my finger on what, so my brain spends hours replaying my previous thoughts and conversations to try and remember it. I have a constant feeling that I’ve forgotten to do a mystery Very Important Thing, and that my life just isn’t complete until I’ve remembered it. Even if I’m just having a light hearted conversation and I forget an anecdote that I was planning to share, I felt like I can’t possibly move on until I’ve remembered it and told the story. The closest thing that I can find online is Just Right OCD?
I used to have this a very similar experience almost constantly! I was always trying to remember something I felt I'd forgotten, something really important I *needed* to remember. And sometimes I'd think I'd figured it out, only to get the feeling that there's something *else* im also forgetting, something of dire importance. I think I'd describe my experience as "Consequnces OCD" because I was always trying to remember the thing I'd forgotten so I wouldn't have to suffer whatever "bad consequence" would occur for having forgotten the thing (even though I had no idea what I'd forgotten or what the consequence would be). Mine has gotten a lot better with ERP and I hope to continue improving. Good luck to you friend!!
@BobbiFlowers I’m sorry to hear that you’re suffering too, but pleased to know I’m not alone! I’m based in the UK and can’t afford therapy right now so I want to try self directed ERP, but I’m not sure what that would look like for this type of OCD? I’d be so grateful if you could share some of the ERP that you’ve done?
You don't have to give it a label, ocd attaches itself on anything
Is it common to have different subtypes at the same time? Mine is trying to latch onto things right after I start to get relief. Can this be a sign of co-morbidity?
I’ve seen OCD specialists say that this is typically not a bad sign, as it means your brain is getting strong enough that it can handle a new theme and then move on relatively quickly to another one right after.
@yun444g Yeah I second that, I think I've heard Jenna (from nocd) say something along the lines of, when you're resisting OCD's demands, it'll try and grab onto anything to try and draw you back into the cycle
@tired_holly I believe that!
@tired_holly I've heard similar from my OCD therapist
What do you mean by co-morbidity? Like a possible medical condition or infection inside your body imitating OCD? Or… another possible mental illness? I’ve always had magical thinking OCD, especially whenever I’m stressed but it’s never gotten so bad until a couple months ago, so… your comment is starting to scare and trigger me 🥺😭
My OCD doesn't fit into a common mold. I get so anxious and at times debilitated whenever I hear, see or think anything about Satan. I feel if I don't do the actions to "get rid" of the feelings that he will take me and my family over. Isn't this silly? But it is terrifying for me. This is why I signed on with NOCD. They are just thoughts and don't mean anything, but I struggle very much.
It’s not silly to all of us! Yes, it’s good that you recognize that these are just thoughts, but our brains work a little differently and get “stuck”, and our compulsions are the only way we know how to cope with the anxiety until we find ERP and support. I’ve had your exact experience before, and I would put it into the emotional contaimination category! We feel afraid that thinking about the devil will cause us to be the devil. Ten years ago I had a whole year where I feared I would become a serial killer because I had taken a ghost tour about serial killers. Unfortunately the best way to get past these fears is to sit with the fear and accept the uncertainty. It is definitely hard (and I’m still at the beginning of my healing journey!) and should be done with a therapist, but we can do it 🤍 You’re not alone!
I have food related OCD, like a just right ocd but especially with food. I hqve to eat in a certain order because i cant enjoy the whole food if the last bite is not one that contains a little bit of everything that i liked about that food. Its really mentally exausting so sometimes i just dont want to eat because i dont jave enough mental strength in that moment. And this one is really invisible and people dont realize how much i suffer with this one Also i really feel that one that said about worries that im not a good enough pet owner, that makes me suffer a lot.
I have just right OCD about food, too! If I share food with someone and they eat too much of it and I don't feel that I've had the right amount, I get really anxious. I also have the worst time with M&M's, where I have to eat them in a certain order, which is really complicated, and if I don't, I freak out. I also have to eat my food in a certain order and not have it touching other foods. I also have the worries that I'm not a good enough service dog handler, which feels worse because it's to a whole nother level from pet ownership and the stakes seem higher. But now my service dog is retired, and I'm worried that I'm not giving him a good enough retirement. I try so hard, but I always feel like the worst service dog handler on earth. And the uncertainty of whether that's really true or not is excruciating.
I struggle with Pospartum OCD
Yes! And never went away!
@JessieJoy But did get much better with treatment
I suffered hardcore with contamination OCD, and I still do struggle with it sometimes. It's SO hard because it can repel me from rooms, people, objects, ANYTHING that will trigger a certain memory or kind of stress. It was super debilitating!!
Thank you for mentioning Emotional Contaimination! So few people know about this one and conflate it with normal contamination ocd. I also have Death OCD (paranoia and fear over death).
WOW. Emotional contamination OCD really sounds like what i'm going through. I think I would really benefit from learning how to identify OCD while it's happening because.. as much as the categorization helps me realize that I am having obsessions about a particular topic, it does not help me see and identify the specific patterns of OCD that contribute to the obsession
I’ve struggled with this one all my life; lmk if you ever want to talk about it!
Hoarding Disorder
Learning about emotional contamination for the first time a few years ago was a life changer for me.
Yes!! I just wrote about how I found out my stepdad doubts I have OCD because I don't have the "obvious signs". I absolutely deal with the emotional contamination one. Related to that is energy contamination. Like from words, or a "bad person" or something. The pet ownership one here was fascinating to read about because I also worry about being a good pet owner even though I can kind of objectivity see that I take care of them and love them... I fret and apologize to them. I also have checking stuff with my body or my face, not sure it's OCD. I will sometimes feel like my face doesn't "make sense" and I have to have it make sense. Or look at it in the mirror to make sure. Or like, I feel like it, or my body, doesn't exist in a way that makes sense to me. Like I have no features or my face is "nothing" sometimes. I know that's super weird 😂
OCD can be super weird
My OCD deals with fear of losing my intelligence. The intrusive thoughts can factor into everyday living (i.e. can I do my job, can I understand this conversation, can I remember things, can I understand this TV show, etc.). At times it’s overwhelming and other times manageable. I’ve been doing ERP for months now with some good results but now and then I have a lapse which can be frustrating.
Still trying to categorize mine. I constantly ruminate about how I feel what I feel why I feel what will I feel when I go somewhere or do something. This is all relating to anxiety symptoms, discomfort, fear, fogginess, disconnected feelings, negative thinking etc….the constant evaluation and checking and questioning why is exhausting. Anyone can relate?
It is exhausting! I can definitely relate!
Ahundred percent
I used to fear being locked up again. I have been involuntarily hospitalized over 50 times. It started with having to wash my hands to get rid of the smell of the hospital soap. Then I considered family members who had visited me in the hospital contaminated. Then their houses and cars were contaminated. Then anywhere they had been was contaminated. It just kept spiraling. I’m not afraid of being involuntarily hospitalized anymore. It’s not likely to happen and if it does I can handle it. I got PTSD from all the involuntary hospitalizations and to me it’s still revolting and that’s why I still do compulsions and avoidance although I have been able to decrease the amount.
@a2a Wow you have been through so much. I feared going homeless on the street.
Confession OCD is common, but isn’t discussed enough imo
I’d never heard of sensorimotor OCD before but it makes a lot of sense and aligns with how I feel
I'd never heard of it before either, but that sounds like some of what I've got.
Rocd about my kids all the what ifs I don't love them care for them constantly checking my feelings towards them to make sure I love them enough and then switchs to my partner
I think mine may be in the same ballpark as contamination OCD. I have this constant fear of having a bug infestation in my home (primarily bed bugs, mites, termites, scabies). I don't want to get into how it started, but I can trace it back to a specific time period in which my brain associated certain events together whether they in reality really were influenced by each other or not. Since then it's been a living hell, but I think I'm making progress. My sympathy goes out to anyone else out there that may have something similar to this subtype.
I need to constantly catch myself from my mind going places, and to not try and rationalize and "figure it out". NOCD has helped me realized the importance of keeping it simple, and focusing on the one tactic (exposure therapy) that works for literally all subtypes.
I suffered from suicide ocd
For me, it isn’t about the content of the intrusive thoughts that makes my OCD unique - it’s the type of compulsions. When I have an intrusive thought, I actually make a noise or perform a rapid body movement to suppress the intrusive thought and calm anxiety. Sometimes I blink forcefully. Sometimes I say a random phrase outloud. From the outside, it looks like I have neurological tics, but I don’t have a tic disorder. I have OCD.
Yeah I had that when I’d have intrusive thoughts about my brother I’d” tic” to suppress the feeling that I didn’t want
I've had it with romantic relationships, friendships, the way I walk, how often I pee, how I breath when I'm falling asleep, my teeth, my hair, how I talk. Violent thoughts on replay. Endless hours of research trying to solve or understand these various "problems" :) Google and I are old chums! Oh, and then there's YouTube!
The walking one is rough. I used to get stuck when the patterns of tiles would change in grocery stores. I had to walk on certain tiles and not step on cracks and then when those tiles stopped, I'd have a meltdown in the store.
I have non-romantic relationships OCD, and emotional contamination OCD
What does your relationship OCD look like?
Sometimes I think I have this as well
I want to know how they do erp exposure therapy if the fear is that cancer can come back. If you are afraid of a dog or a place you can gradually get desensitized to it, but what about some one who had cancer and was treated for it and is in remission. How can they do that and does it work. Thank you
Bless you. The way you pictured contamination spreading is how my contamination OCD started, but for me it was because a homeless man blew a wet raspberry in my ear as I walked past him. I always wonder what my life would have been like if I hadn't gone into town that day, the day after my 17th birthday. 😔
@WeepingWillow I feel like it’s also really common for OCD sufferers to just have a really good memory recall, with those details more vivid than you would like. :/ I’m sorry that had to happen to you.
@yun444g Nah, not really. My memory is worse than a goldfish, it honestly depends on the person
Taboo OCD is harder to talk about because what is "taboo" is often determined by the social environment. The thoughts are not only against one's values, but also against most people in their social environment. It's easy to see that this can cause the sufferer to withdraw socially -- they fear the content of the thought, but also going against society's values, and the ramifications: rejection, stigma, etc.
I have rocd and its painful but hopefully therapy will help alot
Ocd that attached to one person that represents my past from being bullied when I was younger , that’s why I question is it ocd or a phobia even though my NOCD therapist tells me it’s ocd.
Anyways my OCD is mostly along contamination OCD with a little bit of this and that OCD-Is there a name for that??
Sounds like it could be pure OCD with a slight fixation on contamination
Yes I obsess over words that lead to disease or worse death. If I hear these trigger words I have to perform the ritual and I’ll be ok🙈 I can’t shop like I used to because I’ll hear a customer mention their heart or they know someone who died from sudden death so I can’t buy anything until I address the compulsion with a ritual I had this as a kid and yes it disappeared!! For years only to return in my 50s…….. I get to where I think this is punishment for something!! Maddening
Eeeeeeeey Real Event OCD here! It’s terrible and I hate it!
How to tell between real event OCD and generalized anxiety...?
Soocd for sure
I literally just posted about this. Omg I feel so much better. 🥲😩
I guess existential ocd for me. And currently I am suffering with this intrusive thought “ how do we understand words?” A relapse really. The thing is, with these sorts of subtypes not being talked about more and when it is, not highlighting that intrusive thoughts can come in this form, it leaves people like me feeling very isolated and confused. I feel alone in this currently.
well this story doesn’t need anymore “themes” 😆 but seriously, I have trouble staying positive enough, so that the monster doesn’t say “hey let’s stick with that negative thought!” How do I know if I should try to skip the thought with a distraction or consider exposure?
Where do I see these responses from my comments? I’m bad at this stuff.
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Been thinking about this a lot in the last few weeks as I'm back in treatment. OCD can definitely take on many forms in my experience,
I feel like I was going crazy, to the point my OCD says that I hate my own voice, It felt like I hated my voice, Even my Inner voice. But then I just got exposed to it overtime and it bothered me lesser than excpected, I have alot of weird unwanted thoughts like this one. Just reply if you want to hear more.
ive had a lot of these subtypes
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