BoringJohnson

Date posted: 2y

Manifestation - How do I navigate this.

Magical thinking/ Harm OCD Scared that I’m inadvertently manifesting my negative thoughts through words and actions. My thoughts are mainly out loud, it’s a habit I developed when I used to answer my thoughts back and now it doesn’t stop. My therapist says words are just words but I don’t fully believe him, especially growing up Christian and you learn that words have power. I’m constantly questioning what I’m doing when I have/say a thought so I don’t liken anything to happen. Do you believe in manifestation?

MSR72

Date posted: 2y

I've had the same problem with verbalizing my thoughts. Some terrible neighbors have put a stop to that. Manifestation feels like the placebo effect to me. I used to believe in it, until my luck stopped working in my favor. The idea of manifestation is like intermittent rewards (gambling). It's addictive and you keep believing in it because it only has to work once.

Nica

Date posted: 2y

I used to but I became an atheist in 2016 and it’s not an issue anymore. There’s absolutely no scientific evidence of manifestation.

BoringJohnson

Date posted: 2y

Personal questions if you both don’t mind. @MSR72 How did you stop verbalising your thoughts? Sometimes I don’t even realise that I said it out loud. @Nica When you did, what was that like for you? Did it work for you and did that have an affect on being an atheist?

MSR72

Date posted: 2y

I became afraid of my neighbors who started shouting at me. To verify if I was talking I got a cheap desk mirror from Amazon to see if my lips were moving.

Nica

Date posted: 2y

@xXOXOXx When I did what? Believe in manifestation? It was hell on earth.

divyD

Date posted: 2y

Ohh man I realise I do this too.. think and respond to my thoughts out loud.. and I’ll do it repeatedly. My dad does something similar and it always annoyed me. Fudge! I’ve got this habit too! Tonight I actually felt like my neg thoughts would manifest into reality.. I just had to roll my eyes and say to myself “just stop that, don’t even go there”, recognising that’s my anxiety talking, and then redirected my attention to what I was initially doing. This helped a lot. I believe that positive thoughts and words are powerful. I don’t think much of my neg thoughts.. I feel more that negativity begets negativity in life… not necessarily that it attracts it magically.

BoringJohnson

Date posted: 2y

@MSR72 I’m sorry to hear that. Do you still say your thoughts out loud or if you don’t, how did you manage to control it? @Nica When you believed in manifestation. @divyD Why did you feel that way tonight? Yes, bringing your mind back to the present moment, something I find very difficult to do. Can you elaborate more on your thoughts on negativity please.

MSR72

Date posted: 2y

No, I started internalizing all of them. Sometimes you can just make it happen if it feels like necessity.

divyD

Date posted: 2y

@xXOXOXx I think I felt that way because my ocd has been intense lately as I do erp. My anxiety relates to the health of my child, triggered by an article I read about a specific health condition. I’ve been obsessed with this condition ever since. My anxiety is not limited to this - anything I’m unsure about sends me into a tailspin. This means I have lots of triggers and sometimes the name of the condition (or the name of other illnesses) pop up in my head very loudly. I thought, my goodness, if I keep saying this then I might actually manifest it! I too find it hard to get back to the present. I take a few deep breathes, identify a few things I see, hear, smell, feel, and try to redirect my focus by playing with my son or engaging with my surroundings, the tv, or my phone. I know from therapy that I have lots of unhelpful (negative) thought processes. I have very black and white thinking (things either are good or bad), predictive thinking (eg this will happen then that will happen), catastrophic thinking.

divyD

Date posted: 2y

@divyD It helps to have a thought diary so you can actually identify that. You could probably get one helpful to you from your therapist. I have a printout I’d be happy to share, but I don’t know how to share files here.

BoringJohnson

Date posted: 2y

@divyD Thank you for sharing. And I completely understand what your thought process was. I do have a sheet from my therapist where I write my thoughts down and question them but I find it triggering to read those pages again.

BoringJohnson

Date posted: 2y

@MSR72 Just to clarify you believe that you can make negativity happen if it feels like a necessity?

MSR72

Date posted: 2y

No, what I meant was that sometimes necessity makes it so that you can actually do something as difficult as not verbalizing thoughts anymore.

BoringJohnson

Date posted: 2y

@MSR72 Thank you so much, you and @Nica have been so incredibly helpful.

Mara_7

Date posted: 12w

Confusing OCD with instinct

Does anyone ever feel like you know you have OCD, but at the same time you think it might actually be you connecting to a higher consciousness or vibration that is trying to control your decisions so that the outcome does not turn out bad kind of like the butterfly effect. It drives me crazy because I know I’m conscious that it’s OCD but at the same time I overthink and feel like it might be a higher power trying to warn me that I’m not doing something right, like example; if I flip the trash can lid a couple more times it’s going to pervert something bad from happening and that why I’m sensing I’m not doing it right, because if I spent a little more time there and if I would have left earlier the outcome would’ve been different. Or say I just fight through it and choose to ignore it, but then I’ll carry that negativity/worry of not feeling like I did it right and will project it out into existence because the thought won’t leave my head and in a way your seeking it out into existence since you keep thinking about it, kind of like an affirmation?

TrustGod24

Date posted: 12w

ERP

I’m thinking about doing erp but my ocd is so severe the thought of accepting my fears happening to me makes me sick to my stomach. I also believe in the power of my words and saying I accept this Bad thing will attract it into my life. I’m not sure what I should do🥲

ClarityMind777

Date posted: 12w

can magical thinking be a compulsion??

One of my primary themes is “just right” OCD, paired with magical thinking. I don’t actually believe something bad will happen, but I feel like I deliberately make up scary, catastrophic thoughts like “xyz person will die” just to pressure myself into doing the just-right compulsion and relieve the anxiety. It’s like I use magical thinking as a tool, even though I know it’s irrational. Does this still count as magical thinking? Can anyone else relate?

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