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My compulsions are rumination, analyzing and mental review. They always feel automatic like I'm trying to protect myself.
Can you explain maybe in what ways you ruminate? I think that's what I do, but I'm not sure, this is a new term to me..also what is mental review?
@EHope77 Endless thinking hoping to find answers but you never do....like looking for that aha moment and everything will be solved.
@ChuckTambo Ok thank you..I can relate to that very much
@ChuckTambo Same, same, same!
@ChuckTambo Newly diagnosed. Clear I have Pure O. How do I do ERP with a constant obsession to fix and feel better. I am pleased to recognized it now for the 1st time after decades of therapy and suffering with what I thought was GAD alone.
@ChuckTambo Oops, meant this post for NOCD team. Sorry.
@TerryinOKC Oof this sounds like me too. Thanks for putting words to this.
Me too
@ChuckTambo Wow this is me too. Thanks for sharing
@ChuckTambo Same!
it feels almost impossible to not try and remember the event like that compulsion just is something that happens automatically in my head
I know it feels automatic but try and think of it this way- you cannot control the initial thought- but you get to choose what you do with it- whether it's thinking about a past event, a memory, a obsession, a image, a urge, you get to choose whether or not you follow it or engage with it. The more you do the less reassured you often feel.
My compulsions are rumination, self reassurance, and analyzing memories. A lot of rumination is about whether I'm doing erp well enough, whether I will relapse, or for themes such as so-ocd or rocd: "if you say love is love and you feel/don't feel love for this person than this means..." type worries.
@RileyB17 Same here. All of this.
@RileyB17 Same too
I deal with this constantly it’s exhausting overwhelming and the battle just feels so undefeatable. I want so badly to be better…
@Amber S. Same!! This app helps so much to help feel like I’m not alone in this exhausting battle
@Amber S. Me too!!you are not alone!
Keep moving forward- everyone's journey is different. There is no time frame to get better. Take it day by day, moment by moment but keep going.
Sometimes I catch myself ruminating on existential thoughts. They don’t start out with “what if” but more of “why”. I know inherently there’s no answer and at the end of the thought cycle, it doesn’t make sense. At this point I figured I’m in the OCD rabbit hole and it s—ks.
@Dee C I definitely do this too. Thanks for sharing this
@Dee C Mine was recently how do we think and who am I inside this body idk so weird and scary
Constant fear of going crazy. I am terrified at times that my OCD is actually the beginning of schizophrenia. When I am in an episode, I am always scanning my mind and body for anything that feels weird. Like I am always looking for the evidence that something is not right and that would mean I’m crazy. Then I try to convince myself that I am not by scrolling through google questions about schizophrenia. What I worry about, is that I don’t seem to have any physical compulsions, it is just all in my head. And it can seem so automatic and real.
@Pat2023 Hi Pat. I can definitely relate to what you are saying. Anyway, your mental rumination which is all in our heads is part of a compulsion. Remember OCD will try to make you doubt anything and everything. Don't fall for it. Try this
@Anonymous Thank you for sharing!
You have described my current battle perfectly. Thank you for sharing (Eventhough my mind is telling me at this moment I don't have OCD and it is schizophrenia/psychosis ☹️) I'm trying not to believe the OCD but it feels so automatic. I feel like I'm beginning to lose grasp of reality. It's so hard to accept the uncertainty of losing your mind especially when you have children you love and care for. I feel like I am doubting everything.
@Pat2023 I can relate to you. The physical compulsions is actually going on the computer and googling. I learned that the hard way by refraining myself from going on the internet or searching for books at the library. It got to the point where I just said “F-it”, if I’m gonna go crazy, then let it be. It’s my way of accepting the uncertainty. Stay strong, you’re not alone!!!
@Dee C Thank you for sharing. It is very helpful to hear from other people that understand what I am talking about.
@Margeof4 Thank you for sharing. I understand how you feel, I have recently started working with a counselor so hopefully I can work through it. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts and feelings with me. It helps.
They feel like that annoying fly that suddenly comes into the room and you wonder how in the hell it got in. Trying to make it fly out doesn’t help…I’m learning to watch it buzz and bump against the window, and then it finally leaves.
Newly diagnosed. How do I even do ERP with Pure O?
@TerryinOKC Rumination is a compulsion , so STOP doing the compulsion(rumination)… It’s probably one of the hardest compulsions to stop because it’s so subtle and sneaky but it is possible to stop doing it.
My compulsions are stupid. So I decided to stop doing them
@OCDliestoyou I love this! 😂🙌🙌
@igetamped It's a mindset💪
Trying to remember acutely what happened
I find this video to be helpful when rumination is a mental compulsion- which actually happens a LOT in OCD-https://youtu.be/a-QR_1KoJ80 I think it isn't as easy to just stop as maybe this makes the process seem in the video but it does make a lot of sense and I find it useful. I also like this one:https://youtu.be/7U9DGeT8OPw
(Possible NSFW Trigger) My main compulsions are self assurance via rationalization and rumination. It often feels like I'm pointlessly fighting a voice (the one attached to the OCD) that is intent on undermining or even trying to kill me (note: I am NOT suicidal). Other times it seems it is trying to get me to question my sanity or my sense of knowing, meaning, or moral worth. It seems to me the way to defeat it or at least undermine the voice is to not be reactive to something unless it is literally in front of me or is credibly close in time. I also have difficulty with self-punishment in conjunction with the above.
Thanks
I always tell my intrusive thoughts to go away because eventually they do so it feels like it works but realistically it's probably making it go on for longer.
Mental review for myself is awful and I got to say to myself it’s the past what’s done is done
You can't change the past- you can't always control the here and now and the future is unknown- so we do our best to live today, in this moment. I know that research shows the more we try to recall events- replay things- we can become more and more confused. So the more we seek to know with certainty something, the less sure we can become.
I need to make a plan for everything that could happen. I need to make sure I'm doing everything I can to prevent bad things from happening. I need to check and see if anything bad that DID happen was my fault... OCD reasoning is that failure to prevent and prepare is ALWAYS the same thing as total responsibility for the outcome, so I better think everything through
Thank you for sharing this- I would argue that the more you try to plan, the more you 'do' to control and prevent, to check and do compulsions, the more you are telling your brain that there really is a constant threat. That is how OCD works- it wants you to feel hyper-responsible for everything and everyone and sells the lie that you can control and prevent anything and everything, even when it is completely illogical. Have you done any ERP? This treatment is highly effective and helps teach you how to respond differently to obsessions.
My biggest compulsion is rumination. I try to figure out the reason for my thoughts, and I think of the scariest scenarios and let my imagination run wild. Most of it is existential, which has been the hardest for me because there are no answers..and that’s what causes the anxiety and depression for me. I have a lot to “what ifs” as well. Believing the thoughts are the scariest. You know deep down it’s a bunch if BS but the OCD convinces you of things sometimes.
@Tee10 Just a bit of humor. I often wonder why of all the BS my OCD can come with…why doesn’t it come up with a cure for cancer or cure for OCD or reinventing the wheel??? How about traveling at warp speed???🧐 The best I could come up with is to know that I don’t know 🤷🏽♂️ Stay strong!!!
@Dee C Lol very true
Idk anymore it's just constant annoying bullcrap. Makes me so exhausted
OCD can be so exhausting. I hope that to give yourself compassion. There is hope.
Yes, I struggle with mental compulsions because I have false memory OCD. They sound like, "Maybe you didn't really do this action. Maybe you contaminated something. Maybe you were in a rush and missed something important." So then my rational brain lays out the memory but replays it step by step or detail by detail. Ultimately my rational brain argues with the OCD voice. That voice is so strong that no matter how many replays and vivid details given, OCD often wins by instilling doubt which leads to fear and worry later followed by mistrust, shame, criticism, judgement and disappointment in self.
So easy to do because if don’t have ocd you too may review a memory to be reassured that you locked a door or something like that. The difference is that the one time mental review is enough to reassure you with ocd. It is the anxiety that keeps the unsure feeling going. Allowing the anxiety to pass is the difficult part.😬
Correction without ocd one review is enough
The trick is to just tell yourself I already checked and walk away
I like to say 'one and done'. I also like to ask what would a reasonable person who doesn't have OCD do in this situation?
Ive had intrusive thoughts so much of my life. Im new to the erp therapy and really hooing it helps. Sure wish i had been treated earlier.
It's never to late to get treatment! You got this.
When someone says OMG (not the abbreviation but in the normal context) I repeat “gosh” in my head to somehow correct what they said without having to speak up to them that it is probably wrong to use that phrase unless you’re actually referring humbly to God. Drives me crazy but it’s a tad more difficult for me to correct because it is a mental compulsion.
This is so relateable. Try and remember that you did not say that thing- you cannot be responsible for others and ERP would have you sit in the discomfort of not mentally correcting this.
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