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trust
is ocd linked to a lack of trust in the self? since we doubt everything so much. and is recovery about finding that trust, or about accepting a lack of it?
NicaNica
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A lack of trust doesn’t create OCD—that’s genetics or trauma. But it can definitely lower your self esteem and therefore trusting/knowing yourself. All mental illnesses will do that if you don’t have a handle on them.
garden garden
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@Nica true
AnoymousAnoymous
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I think so. I read something which I can’t recall where or if it was ocd related but it described how for some coping becomes very external focused more than interval - seeking answers and coping strategies outside oneself /control vs. strengthening self/trusting in abilities to cope. I think this is often learned or can result from trauma, and potentially some are just inclined to it. Additionally recently read that for people with OCD the perceived/ possible self (what if I do do that, what if I am that) tends to take up more mental space/importance than the actual self and that’s the bases from which obsessions and consequently compulsions follow. Or something to that affect. If I find the links I’ll share, but one of my open questions in therapy (non-ERP) is how to develop trust in self. I don’t struggle with self esteem issues, or much doubt other than around important things where anxiety is blinding but it seems from a need to control external to protect self from bad things, which I don’t feel I can handle.
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@Aanoymous very interesting, thank you!
AnonymousAnonymous
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@Aanoymous Interesting! Please share links if you find them. I love the psychology behind it.
Wednesday46 Wednesday46
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@Aanoymous I didn’t fully understand this but I agree with everyone please send links
AnoymousAnoymous
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@Aanoymous I went searching for the article since it seemed interesting to you all as well. It’s here: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233639190_The_Menace_Within_Obsessions_and_the_Self It’s an interesting idea that while may not change the work of confronting the fears to break the anxiety cycle it may help us see how we got/get into these fears to begin with and may help one create some distance from it.
smileycat7 smileycat7
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I would say it also affects trust in ourselves to handle catastrophes!
smileycat7 smileycat7
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It affects my confidence and self trust when making decisions
garden garden
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@smileycat7 yes me too. i’m indecisive when making decisions and unsure whether i made the right decision afterwards. or i don’t feel very firm in my beliefs and opinions since everything is subject to doubt!
Wednesday46 Wednesday46
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@garden me too
Wednesday46 Wednesday46
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What if you give yourself permission to do things, because you do the wrong things. I used to give myself permission to look at my fossil watch because I didn’t think I deserved something so nice
takiflavortakiflavor
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thank you for posting this question ❤️ its thought provoking, in a positive way :) lol
garden garden
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@takiflavor ❤️
Wednesday46 Wednesday46
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Yes I want to know this too
Fabulousfaerie00Fabulousfaer...
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Same
AnonymousAnonymous
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Good post. I wonder if there is a link between people with lower confidence and ocd. I know I definitely doubt my ability to handle hard things sometimes.
garden garden
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@Anonymous yeah i think there must be
Fabulousfaerie00Fabulousfaer...
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@Aanoymous, reading this comment help me understand so much about this subject! Thank you! I also had alot of traumatic experiences in childhood/early adolescence. I think this is what contributed to me being like this alot of the time tbh. A good point to bring up in therapy
AnoymousAnoymous
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@Bellaahhhhh I’m with you, even if there is a genetic predisposition, who we are, the copying strategies we developed will more than influence our experience in treatment. Therapist will talk about cognitive distortions but before we get to those I think this concept of our relationship to ourself may continue to make us vulnerable.
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