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Hard Time
Obsessions are back really hard. Not really understanding what's going on or why. My medication was recently upped and I feel worse. I've been keeping busy too. Ah well. I think I need a break.
Obsessions are back really hard. Not really understanding what's going on or why. My medication was recently upped and I feel worse. I've been keeping busy too. Ah well. I think I need a break.
I upped my medication recently and it made me feel worse the first couple weeks. After that I could tell I was getting better but the only way to beat your ocd is through ERP. I found out today that agreeing with it disagreeing with your ocd r both compulsions so don’t do either of those. I would look up different ERP. Techniques. We r all here for you. That’s why we all have this app. Because each and everyone of us are struggling. Some more than others. Your not alone even at your worst.
Yeah, I just can't help but feel like I'm missing something. I took my previous recoveries for granted, so I don't really remember much about what I did right.
@McDucko I typically have a bad flare up when changing a dose, even if it’s up. It tends to last a couple weeks for me
@OCDMM I should know how to deal with this better than I am. I'm letting it get to me and I'm discouraged. Arg.
@McDucko It’s hard not to. Don’t beat yourself up. Things will get better soon
The ocd therapist i had acted like medication wasnt the answer. And it was even a compulsion itself.
It helps with mood. If I don't do ERP it doesn't really do anything at all. Medication can be a huge help but it shouldn't be a crutch.
@McDucko - I just hate the side effects. If they didnt have any side effects id take them all day lol. We all would.
How long has it been since you upped it? Sometimes they don’t kick in to the full affect for a few weeks🙌🏼
This past Monday. I'm just impatient.
@McDucko I get it, I would be too. But at least it gives you a little hope that you might feel better soon 🙏🏼
Just out of curiosity since you are very insightful, does your psychiatrist (assuming a psychiatrist is managing your medication and not a primary care) believe higher doses of an ssri are pinnacle to the treatment of ocd? Whats their perspective and understanding of ocd? Ive never been directly treated for ocd by a psychiatrist who is specialized in ocd.
@jhbishop80@gmail.com My psychiatrist said Anafranil is really the best medicine for OCD but SSRI’s are more commonly prescribed because they have fewer side effects and that Anafranil is an older drug and most doctors aren’t really familiar with it. She said she sees more success with that one than with any but I’m really hesitant to try it because of the potential side effects. For the SSRI’s, she does the think the higher doses are the way to go but I can’t personally tolerate them, I get too much serotonin going around and I get a lot of muscle spasms
@OCDMM But everyone is different and responds to different medication. I do think seeing a psychiatrist over a primary doctor can be helpful if your primary care doctor since they aren’t as specialized but for many years I was fine on Paxil that my primary prescribed
@OCDMM - Yeah i cant stand the side effects. Weight gain, sleepiness, sexual side effects, etc. I think some patients just dont care about some of the side effects. The psychiatrists probably just think 'hey if you want to take them then take them. If you dont then dont.' Not whole lot they can do there. The pharm companies having made too many developments since the 80s with prozac. Just new ssris.
@jhbishop80@gmail.com Yep. I can’t quit them entirely or I can’t function so I’ve settled on a low dose of an SSRI and supplements that help. It’s not as effective as a high dose of an SSRi but the side effects are just too much. Sexual, digestive, dry mouth is crazy bad for me, constantly being hungry
Right. Ive tried as high as 40 mg paxil and the dry mouth is terrible. Drinking water like crazy. And sweating heavily when exercising. Yes and hungry too. Least i aint the only one lol. 20 mg paxil isn as bad. What do you take?
@jhbishop80@gmail.com On Lexapro now. I was on Paxil forever at 20 and it helped a lot and then one day it didn’t work the same apparently and I ended up having to switch. I still had the same side effects on Paxil as all the others, except with Paxil I also got brain zaps, didn’t with the others. I tried Prozac and that one had all the same except whenever I’m on it (tried it twice) I can smell EVERYTHING. It’s weird. And it doesn’t make me hungry. Lexapro does make me hungry like the Paxil but it’s more effective than the Prozac was for me. Paxil was the hardest to get on and to get off of. I tried it more than once since going off with my long stretch of years on it. Looking back, I think the biggest issue with my Paxil is it was a very different experience with each manufacturer. When I would get a different generic it would be like starting a new pill. I was happiest on the name brand but it was insanely expensive
@OCDMM - I sometimes hate that i even got on them. I am 43 now and was put on them when i was 20 and sophmore in college. It wasnt for ocd i just told regular doc i wasnt feeling well. I went through probably 4 other ssri til i just stuck with paxil. Those were the dark ages of understanding ocd as well as the ssri side effects.
@jhbishop80@gmail.com They put me on it when I was about 12. I had bad OCD but was scared to tell anyone the truth. I stayed on the Paxil for the most part until I was in my early 30’s. Also didn’t tell anyone my tire symptoms until then once I had learned about what OCD really was. Now I’ve been jumping to different ones off an on. As much as I hate them, I don’t know how I would have finished middle school, high, school, college, jobs, relationships without them
@OCDMM - What happens if you go off them? The ocd gets very bad or depression?
@jhbishop80@gmail.com Crazy bad intrusive thoughts and hard to not engage with them. I can resist compulsions much better on them. I also get really paranoid off of them. I also do get kind of depressed when I come off but that seems to level out. I think it’s just the initial drop
Wow 12. What year was that? I went to a child psychologist or psychiatrist and he didnt do anything. No medication, no ocd diagnosis. Just gave a tape of relaxing sounds and said good luck lol. Are you from united states?
@jhbishop80@gmail.com It was 1998. Yep, in the US. Yeah, they gave me a rubber band to snap on my wrist when I got nervous but I only shared that I was scared to go to school and not all the other stuff I was thinking because I thought they would put me in an institution or something. They diagnosed me with SAD and then they gave me the Paxil. Luckily Paxil also helps with OCD so that got much better even with the wrong diagnosis.
@OCDMM - I can definitely relate to the embarrasment and worry about telling a doctors about your specific obsessions and complusions. I was fearful to theyd think i was nuts lol. Sad the psychiatric community didnt understand it better. I still dont think they all have a strong understanding of it, at least not the importance of erp. Ashame insurance companies dont cover psychologists/psyciatrists like they do other doctors. Seems like the pharmaceutical companies are running the show.
Ok yeah i think late 90s was when they really started pushing the ssris. Im like 6 years older than you and i never heard of a kid taking an antidepressant when i was 12. ADD was the big thing then. But also im sure doctors had reservations about putting children on antidepressants. Well glad to hear you are doing well on the meds. Ttyl
Just sorta to vent and maybe get advice… I normally struggle with OCD and other MH/ medical issues.. I’ve sorta become acclimated to the stress, pain, mind games, and constant perfectionism. I thought I had it under control but this OCD has just been creeping back in small ways over time. I’ve caught myself doing behaviors and not feeling able to stop it. (This is combo of OCD but not sure how to categorize it all) - compulsively counting body movements til it’s the right number and feeling - adjusting papers/rewritten notes numerous times - irrational thoughts of my new pup being dead when I check on her - irrational thoughts that I don’t love my partner or he doesn’t love me after almost 10 years - every plate, cup, utensil has to be properly inspected before being able to use it - food can not have day of expiration (or even close to it) or a weird look or smell = it is inedible - recent close call accident led to dread driving and constant thoughts of a crash even though I did what I could and didn’t crash The list just keeps going.. but it has simply been a struggle that has lead me to feeling self conscious, unprofessional, childish, ashamed, and crazy. It’s a hard thing to accept that this has begun to return after finding ways to cope and manage in the past. I am struggling with finding ways to cope with it all cuz it is constantly disturbing my relationship, work, and personal well being Well that’s my truth for the day
I hope everyone is doing well! It's been a week or so since I came on the app. I wasn't doing so well, but I promised myself I'd stay off until after my next psychiatrist appointment (two days ago). The appointment didn't last long. I regret not going into more detail with her, but I shared the basics of what I had been dealing with. We're raising my dose (Sertraline) to 100mg. Hopefully, that will do something...? The intrusive thoughts haven't been too bad, but I just feel... blank. There's not a lot going on in my personal life right now, so that might be the main reason. I'm doing okay, though. I've read three books in the past week. I'm about to start my fourth tonight. I don't know if keeping busy in this case is a form of avoidance or not. But I feel depressed if I'm not doing anything, so... here we are! 🥲
I am having an appointment with my psychiatrist this afternoon and I am obsessing about what to do with my medication. I think it’s also very ocd like obsessing. I am currently on 30mg mirtazapine. Ive been on this for years (because of insomnia, anxiety and depression) (15mg) and after we tried to switch to another (amitryptiline) because of nerve pain, I went down the road of insomnia and later on ocd again. So I am back on mirtazapine, and weaning off of the amitryptiline. This is/was a very traumatic experience. Because the switch caused a mental breakdown. Now my psychiatrist has mentioned to up the mirtazapine to 45mg. And my obsessive self has done a lot of research and a lot is saying that the higher the dose, the more you can experience anxiety. And for ocd it’s obviously not the first choice. I am obsessing all morning about it. I am too scared to go up. But I am also too scared to try another and to wean myself of off mirtazapine. I feel stuck at this point. Taking two meds is also not something I want. I could really use some words of encouragement right now I think. 🥹
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