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- janiejet
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- 5y ago
I have had the same issue. Sometimes the thought is more distressing after ERP than during it! I would love to hear insight from others. For now what I have been doing is when the thought comes back up, I think something along the lines of "This is a worry thought. I thought is just a thought. I am going to let it be." Most of my compulsions are mental compulsions so I have to repeat a similar thing in my head each time the thought comes back (and it does a lot!)- being careful not to reassure myself as that just reinforces the thought and feeds into the OCD.
That's exactly what I do! I found that saying "it's just ocd " doesn't help. I need to figure this out. I do believe in erp. What's your theme? Mine mental as well. ❤
Ironically I am a mental health therapist and my theme is that I missed something in my sessions with clients which will result in my professional license being taken away or getting sent to jail. What is your theme? The mental compulsions are so sneaky! I'd recommend checking out the memoir "Is Fred in the Refrigerator?" by Shala Nicely (although she does not have exclusively mental compulsions). I have read most of it and have really loved it. She talks a lot about embracing uncertainty so her response to obsessions is often something along the lines of "I may or may not (enter fear thought such as 'die of Aids'). There's no way to be certain. Thank you, OCD, for giving me anxiety and the chance to make my life better." I am experimenting with this too and find it effective at times.
Interesting. Mine is pocd and harm ocd. I've read so many wonderful books over the last few months. I'm familiar with shalas work. It all started in February when I went through work burn out from teaching. It left me with ocd. Which is strange in itself! I'd love to talk more often with you. Thanks for answering.✌❤
It took me quite awhile to get a proper diagnosis because it's a unique presentation. I'm grateful that I finally got one though as I feel like I'm finally making some traction in treatment. That is strange how that popped up for you! Any particular books that you'd recommend?
Ps I want to recover!
I know. They say that ocd attacks the themes most important to us!! Do you have other themes? How long have you had ocd? My therapist didn't really understand I had ocd. She thought I had gad. I did research on my own and have been seeing an ocd specialists for roughly 3 months. I do have trouble not doing mental compulsions. Which I'll use your phrase "that's a worry thought." I love "everyday mindfulness for ocd by shala and Jon hershfeld Freedom from Obsessive compulsive disorder by grayson. Overcoming unwanted and intrusive thoughts by sally winston. I love dr. Steven phillipson. Check out ocd stories with Stuart Ralph as well.
That is my main theme. I have some other themes, but they are all work-related and involve messing something up or accidentally doing something unethical. My OCD also started in February! Lots of job stress at that time. It got worse when I changed jobs, moved to a new house, and became pregnant all at the same time a couple of months ago. All positive changes but I think it was a lot to handle all at once! I definitely had OCD symptoms when I was a kid though too. And I've had variations of anxiety disorders my whole life. Thanks for the book recommendations! I will check those out. Have you found it helpful to meet with an ocd specialist? I am currently looking to change therapists which is sad because I really like mine, but she and I both know that OCD is not her speciality so I could get more effective help from someone else.
Oh my gosh! That's a lot of changes to go through. Congrats!!!! ? Interestingly enough I've always been super mellow and a roll with it kinda girl. I raised 2 wonderful sons and am a gentle soul. Lol However we moved took care of my dying father in law long commute to work and taught pre-k for 6 years. The last 10 year's have been a lot. I didn't realize I was getting depressed and anxious. My school was year round so I never had summers or holidays off. I believe my ocd event occurred because I left mid year and felt guilty. I beat myself up for not hanging in till the year ended! I also developed checking stove and locked doors. ? I would totally recommend an ocd specialists!! He suggested I check this site it out because I didn't want to tell others (except hubby). It's helping me to talk to you. I've been feeling confused and isolated. ❤✌
It's crazy how stress can build up and turn into something more! I am glad you are getting the help you need with an OCD specialist. I have enjoyed talking to you too! I have told many friends and family members about my OCD, no one really gets it so it's nice to feel understood :)
The obsession will stay with you, BUT it won’t bother you anymore, the absence of thoughts is impossible and that’s not the goal
How long have you been doing erp? Days, weeks, months? If it's been months without any progress I'd suggest maybe you are doing mental compulsions or distracting yourself during erp. If it's just days or weeks this is normal, I think. I find after erp sometimes my brain is sort of testing by sending the obsessions back to see how I respond. The goal of erp is actually not to eliminate the obsession but to change your behavior and response. The obsession does naturally fade over time if you respond less.
I love ocd stories!!!
That's a nice goal. ❤
To accept thoughts and not to fuse with them.
I've been doing it for weeks. I do see improvement. However the content borhers me duh and almost out of habit I reassure myself. I understand that I'm not a criminal anymore lol that's good. I was able to tolerate this week erp it just the same old same unsettling thought
If it's been weeks and you're still responding to the thoughts it might be your mindset and what you're thinking during erp making it less effective. I had the same problem for the past couple months.
Ok let me ask you this. During erp I'm fully present and welcome any sensations anxiety etc. I don't do compulsions during erp.
So my guess is you're doing something? Distraction maybe? From my own experience what I was doing before was being present and trying to tolerate the anxiety. What I realized I need to do is really try to think thoughts my ocd doesn't like to make my ocd really freak out. When I do it this way it feels like the ocd part of my brain is screaming at me to make it stop, and I basically just continue this and try to make it scream more. One tip I read that I found really helpful is try to make it a game and see how much you can torture your ocd. Another thing that helps me in addition to just listening to a script is going to a location that makes it feel more real and /or looking at upsetting pictures on my phone. Basically try to think of things that your brain will hate and do them.
Hmm... Thank you I haven't been consciously bringing up the frightening obsessions during erp. I've been sitting with it. I need to talk to my ocd doc. Thank you.
For me that worked a little but I really needed to turn the volume up and scare my brain even more. Once I started doing that I noticed a big difference.
Very interesting thread, bookmarking it for the book recommendations. Another pure O here with a variety of themes than change over time. Have had OCD symptom since I was a kid but I haven't started treating it until 4 months ago. However I was being treated for depression and gad for the last 8 years. It feels like I've lost all my youth fighting against myself (almost 36).
Suggest you check out podcast the ocd stories. Really excellent info on there
llamaduck- I see what your saying. For this particular obsession I've never felt anxiety. Because it's the annoying thought in my head like a mental hiccup I'll try "bumping up my game" as it were. Lol Rakemitri - my heart goes out to you. Hang in there. You are not alone!!!
Did you listen to the one with a Dr. Steven Phillipson? So insightful. Are any of you on group therapy? I'm on the waiting list for one..
Yup, really like his talk. I especially liked shala nicely talk on erp. That is really what helped me immensely.
That's ocd stories with Stu Ralph.
I have quite an intensive library oon ocd! Sounds like you do too! Do you have her book mindfulness for everyday? Co wrote with Jon hershfield.
Questions about ERP. My anxiety is very low due to the amount of medicine that I’m on but I still have the constant intrusive thoughts. Do others have issues with trying work with intrusive thoughts and ERP without anxiety? What have you done to work on it?
This question is for those who have already started ERP: Do your obsessive themes seem realer to you for a little while after doing ERP?
For those how have done ERP how do you deal with the intrusive thoughts?
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