A girl who was diagn and realised she was a lesbo

I also have hocd and I'm not gay...so I was told it's ego-dystonic... I'm straight and have intrusive thoughts about being gay .... people who are actually gay have intrusive thoughts about being straight...if that makes sense. I'm on medications for almost a month and I can say I'm getting better and nope I don't still desire same sex but the intrusive thoughts, compulsions are reducing and I'm gaining more control and being able to distinguish ocd thoughts and reality+ I'm doing erp too

@Ms.shelovesfrogs Thanks for your reply. But rhis therapist said thjs. @Viny So what about this from an OCD therapist. It’s not true: It is not at all true that having HOCD indicates you’re not gay. To be clear, it also doesn’t indicate you are gay! Having HOCD doesn’t tell you anything about your sexual orientation whatsoever. All it tells you is that you have OCD about your sexual orientation, which you already knew. So he is saying hocd can be gay

@lizzie11811 Valid fr

@lizzie11811 I think it's desires that actually tell sexual orientation

@Ms.shelovesfrogs So why did he say HOCD isn’t a indicator your not gay

@lizzie11811 He said SO-OCD is ego-dystonic

@Ms.shelovesfrogs @Ms.shelovesfrogs Thanks for your reply. I think you’re misunderstanding what I am saying, he is saying below that hocd doesn’t indicate your not gay so to me that says people with Hocd can realise they are Gay It’s not true: It is not at all true that having HOCD indicates you’re not gay. To be clear, it also doesn’t indicate you are gay! Having HOCD doesn’t tell you anything about your sexual orientation whatsoever. All it tells you is that you have OCD about your sexual orientation, which you already knew.

@lizzie11811 This is certainly a convoluted threat, to clarify: hocd just says you are not the Orientation you fear. It's a reminder that you are either, straight or gay by making your suffer.

@Viny OCD is not indicative o hidden desires OCD is not indicative of denial OCD is not indicative of sexual arousal OCD is not indicative of attraction OCD is not indicative of anything your mind conjures to torment you. And is in fact the opposite

@Viny @lizzie11811 This is certainly a convoluted threat, to clarify: hocd just says you are not the Orientation you fear. It's a reminder that you are either, straight or gay by making your suffer. What do you mean it’s a reminder your are either straight or gay as my therapist said people with HOCD are not gay or bisexual

@lizzie11811 It's exactly what I mean dude. Also gay people suffer from SOOCD too and the opposite for them is also true gay people with hocd are not straight

@lizzie11811 That's what you are not getting lol

@lizzie11811 We literally agree on the same thing. That having OCD shows literally the opposite of being the thing you fear. In case of a straight person with hocd they are straight.

@Viny But see this from an article on Reddit from a poster who spoke to an ocd therapist I know and have treated people with HOCD who turned out to be gay and went on to be comfortable with the fact that they were gay.  I also know other therapists who have also treated patients like this. There are also definitely many people with HOCD who are not gay at all.  In other words, it can go either way. Many people who treat OCD, including the experts with whom you have spoken, simply don't realize this.  They believe that if someone has HOCD it automatically means they cannot be gay. These experts are not lying to you, they just don't realize that it's more complex.  It's likely that they have read all the same things that you have read,and talked to the same people you have talked to, all of which say that if someone has HOCD it automatically means the person isn't gay, so they think that that is true, just like you have been led to believe. No, these are actually also people who were afraid of being gay, and realized they were indeed gay.  There are some people who are afraid of being gay who aren't really gay, and then there are others who realize they are really gay.   Instead of thinking about OCD in terms of thoughts, think of it as a question that haunts someone: "Am I gay?"  Some people are haunted by this question, even though they aren't gay.  Some people are haunted by this question because they are gay.  Having HOCD only tells us that the person is haunted by this question. Imagine if someone came into an anxiety clinic because they were having chest pains.  A lot of times, those chest pains would just be anxiety.  But not all the time.  Sometimes, they would indicate a real medical issue.  By the same token, a lot of the times when someone comes in with HOCD, it's just anxiety, but other times there is a real feeling of attraction there.  Just like with chest pain, you would have to help the person stop ruminating and feel less anxious, so they can see if they still have chest pain even when they aren't anxious. When other practices say that HOCD means someone isn't gay, it's like saying that anyone with chest pain is just anxious.  A lot of the time it's true, but it's incorrect and misleading to say that it is always just anxiety. ... I think that if anyone states categorically that someone with HOCD is never gay, they are wrong.  Just as if someone says that people with chest pain never have real heart problems, they are wrong.  If they were to say that HOCD can make you think you're gay when you're not, or that chest pain can just be a symptom of anxiety, that would be correct.

@lizzie11811 - to be honest with you if someone is afraid of being gay and is gay that is not SOOCD that's just denial. It's the same as saying people with POCD are pedophiles. Or people with ZOCD are zoophiles, and people in denial are have different contexts in which their sexuality works compared to someone with OCD. So honestly I think this is wrong. And I won't be replying anymore this conversation won't go anywhere.

@Viny Could you listen to this guy when you get chance. Just the last 5 minutes as so scared what he says. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rGLKdYSugcc Can you listen to 11 minutes until the end please. It’s only a 5 minute slot. But he says you can have HOcD and be gay

@Viny So what about this from an OCD therapist. It’s not true: It is not at all true that having HOCD indicates you’re not gay. To be clear, it also doesn’t indicate you are gay! Having HOCD doesn’t tell you anything about your sexual orientation whatsoever. All it tells you is that you have OCD about your sexual orientation, which you already knew.

@lizzie11811 Exactly what I meant, having OCD does not indicate anything about oneself. Just that your brain is bullying you

@lizzie11811 And that every experience will be different from everybody else's so you can't really compare or say the same thing will happen to you. In essence we are all different in my case I knew my own orientation and desires from the start before developing this theme. But some people will have different experiences

@lizzie11811 Also. Depending on the person it can also mean they are not the thing they fear. I read an article here on nocd about OCD being a bittersweet reminder of your values, so in a sense yeah it can mean you are not the things you fear. Since thoughts are not real and all of OCD is opposed of what you value. It's not a final answer but it's more of an understanding

@Viny I don’t understand what you mean. So are you saying someone can have HOcD and be actually be Gay

@Viny But if hocd is ego dystonic how can someone with Hocd be gay

@lizzie11811 - No, sorry I was super tired when writing that, what I was trying to point out in the article OP mentioned the person had way more things going on than just hocd. And that people with HOCD and OCD in general are usually not the thing they fear, nor they will become that because OCD attacks the person's identity and values and are not a doorway for hidden desires.