Religious ocd

@julianofnorwich Why do people always say it

@G C If you watch the video he'll explain why people teach it.

@julianofnorwich Even besides the rapture Jesus returning in general too

@G C I totally understand. There's some other theologians who talk about that in more detail as well, I can look them up for you no problem! But I would in the short term we dont need to fear Jesus return because He is coming to make all things new, not to damn you . He is coming to restore all of creation, including you , to wholeness dear one . And I personally believe there will be no OCD anymore when He returns 😀

@julianofnorwich True but I haven’t even studied a lot of revelation in depth so I don’t even know what to believe and if I’m not ready. Cuz like there’s a bunch of people that might think they are ready but aren’t and I feel like one of them.

@G C I understand, so would you say youre core fear is whether God will think you're worthy or not? Whether he'll save you or not?

@julianofnorwich Pretty much

@G C I've been thinking about a good way to answer this. And I think all I can say is what helped me. I've had this fear since childhood as well. For me what helped more is the cognitive side of CBT. My OCD always latched on to the negative view of things. "What if God doesn't love me? What if im deceiving myself and im not truly saved? What if I am not devoted enough to make it to heaven or I dont truly love the Lord enough?" ERP teaches us we have to accept those things may be true. But for me, the way I could accept those things to be true was also to consider other possibilities. "What if God DOES love me? What if God has saved me? What if I am devoted and make it to heaven?" As I was able to accept the positive possibilities, I could entertain the negative possibilities with more tolerance. It is possible that we may not be ready for Christ's return. BUT it is ALSO possible that we are ready. And be willing to accept that positive idea as well!

@julianofnorwich But like I can’t be okay with just going to hell I have to know

@G C I know! I also am not ok with going to hell. What I mean our OCD makes us think over and over "what if we go to hell?" Instead, try and see another possibility, another thought "BUT what if I go to heaven?" When I started entertaining the more positive side of the possibility it increased my cognitive flexibility. Like for ERP once I had to write down "I dont have OCD and im faking it" and i ALSO had to write down "I DO have OCD and im not faking it". I had to practice seeing the potential possibility of goodness as well. The other thing i would say is I'll pray for you that you experience God's love and SECURITY in a way that you can't explain and can't be taken from you. I still believe God works in miraculous ways and He can show up in your life in a way let's you know just for a moment that He has never and will never leave you. It's not about our desire or will power to follow him. It's about His commitment to us and God never starts a work in us that he doesn't intend to finish! Much love!