The debate solution is you don't have to have that debate

Some debates are unwinnable. There's not gonna be the perfect answer, the perfect solutions, the ultimate truth. What do you do then? I'm not saying coming to this realization is the "solution," I'm saying maybe it's just something to ask yourself -- does it even matter if I have this debate? And yeah I know OCD attaches to a lot of things that DO matter, that's why it's super tough to just brush it off as a another passing thought - especially if it's a dilemma that has no good sustainable answer and especially if it's creating mental effects that are affecting life negatively. But it's just something to keep in mind. ** TRIGGER WARNING ** Idk wtf my latest theme is... but it's bad. Maybe some type of Meta OCD or something. For the last year I'd say I've been consumed with Neurology - in a bad way. OCD is a very much so a disorder of someone being "too in their head." So naturally, you spot patterns. Some of these thought patterns line up with scientific neurology. So this has become a whole side quest of scary thoughts. "Do I have dementia." "Will OCD give me dementia" "Why does my brain feel this way," and some of the worst are how neurology affects me overall. Am I just a brain? Aren't a spirit with a soul too? The scariest things are when the boogeyman is actually true or parts of it are true. So at the same time, I'm not a neurologist, I don't have all the answers, I can't have all the answers, I didn't create me. But I have noticed neurological patterns first hand. But my perspective on that doesn't HAVE to be bad, doubting, negative, downward spiraling, etc. Think of OCD also like some mad scientist mathematician who obsessed with a math problem for years. He can't sleep, it's making him crazy, etc. In his mind, he HAS to solve that equation, he has to find the solution and certainty and "the answer." But he needs to take a step back and realize, "this doesn't HAVE to be solved by me." So sometimes the solution is to realize it's OK to stop looking for the solution and sometimes the debate is realizing you don't have to have that debate at all.

Dacoldesttoe...

Date posted: 20h

Even what we’re doing right now: talking about it and trying to solve it, is a compulsion. We have to train our brains to stop engaging it, which is hard for people like us who are so used to solving things. But the answer really is as simple as just stop engaging, when the thoughts reappear, stop engaging again. It is very hard to do, but not impossible. And it is worth the feeling of peace that we know we want

Dacoldesttoe...

Date posted: 20h

Hey man, I have really bad meta-ocd thoughts as well. It’s like and endless loop of trying to solve the thought and then even weirder thoughts pop up and it’s an endless cycle. It’s extremely difficult to even explain, but I get you. The fact of the matter is that we are just desperately trying to solve something that can’t be solved, it just leads to less answers and more questions.

Dude01

Date posted: 20h

Hey bro thanks for replying. Yeah it's like being so stuck in your head 100x lol. I'm not 100% sure mine is Meta OCD or what Meta OCD actually is, but you think it does sound like that theme to you? I'd say I've been obsessed with the actual technical neurology of my thoughts. Like if I read something about actual brain functionality like regions of the brain or neuro stuff, that would set me off. But also I feel like since I've had OCD for a while, that I am noticing these patterns and that there IS some truth to it. I'm like literally noticing how thoughts work etc. like how the sausage is being made. Is that what Meta OCD is or something different entirely lol. Either way, I'm sick of it.

Dacoldesttoe...

Date posted: 20h

@Dude01 I don’t know the exact content of your thoughts obviously, but what I do know is that OCD functions the same way no matter what the thoughts are. If there’s an urgency to gain certainty, no matter what the thought is, that’s an OCD compulsion. So for example: let’s say I have a harm ocd thought about hurting someone close to me. If I’m actively trying to solve this thought or find meaning behind it because I want certainty, that’s OCD. The content of the thought doesn’t matter, it’s how it makes you feel and how you engage with it that matters.

Dacoldesttoe...

Date posted: 20h

@Dacoldesttoevadoit Because obviously it’s totally different if you’re researching because you’re genuinely interested. But if you were genuinely interested, there wouldn’t be a need for certainty and anxiety around it. You would feel excited and interested in it

Dacoldesttoe...

Date posted: 20h

It sometimes feels impossible to NOT engage with them, like we need an answer. But that’s the problem with OCD, you will never be satisfied with an answer, so we have to stop giving it answers.

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