Amarthe
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hateocd123hateocd123
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Saying that it's a severe case of internalized homophobia is not only rude, but triggering. It's about identity. No one wants their whole identity ripped away from them.
hateocd123hateocd123
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Imagine having a voice in the back of your head that constantly tells you that your sense of identity is false and you're just leading other people on for the rest of your life.
Inferno Inferno
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And I understand where your coming from as a gay person, I’m gald we having this talk to give you more clarity. I have hocd and hocd opened me to have respect for the lgbt community
Inferno Inferno
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And my fear having hocd is that I’m attracted to the same sex because I’ve been straight my whole life and been attracted to the opposite gender and when suddenly having the thought of being with the same gender, it’s not who I was
AmartheAmarthe
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It seems less like a fear of being gay and more so a fear of experiencing homophobia (discrimination, losing the support of family, potential assault, etc) I've actually had it pretty rough wrt my sexuality, I had to run away from home as a teenager because of my family's homophobia.
advocate109advocate109
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Nawh i turned to my mom and friends when it got really bad
advocate109advocate109
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I actually went to a gay affirmation therapist cuz i thought i was in denial
Inferno Inferno
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@advocate109 Your yourself perfect ?
ruminating_redheadruminating_r...
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I could understand how you would see hocd that way. And I think in some cases you could be right. But I’ve dealt with hocd thoughts and I wouldn’t have a problem being gay, never have I been homophobic, it’s just a matter of it being thoughts that fight against who you are, and no matter how much it feels false to you, you still question it.
Inferno Inferno
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Yep and I thought I was alone
MarsMars
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I think about this a lot as someone who is gay/bi (I’m still questioning but I identified as a lesbian for many years)... it’s a bit hard for me to understand as well because I wonder what hocd is doing or if it’s internalized stuff. I guess in ways I undersfand because I’ve had extreme fears of being straight? But I dunno. All I can do is be supportive as best as I can for any kind of intrusive thought.
advocate109advocate109
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For me i have hocd and rocd. I think it stems from the fact rhat ive just wanted a wife my whole life.
Inferno Inferno
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Telling someone who had hocd and telling them it’s okay is kinda triggering, this is someone with hocd, even saying the word gay is triggering
Inferno Inferno
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And hocd can happened for gay ppl who fear to be attracted to the opposite gender. Never thought this shit happens to other ppl
ocdillustratedocdillustrated
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You're best off with acknowledging the uncertainty. This is true for any flavor of OCD. Maybe they are gay, maybe they're not. You can validate their pain while sidestepping the request for reassurance (which is a compulsion). The goal is not to make someone feel better in the moment, rather to communicate that you have confidence in their ability to experience discomfort and still be ok
hateocd123hateocd123
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Actually you know what. Imagine a 3rd party person you have absolutely nothing to do with comes in and says that you're only allowed to be with women. You don't want to be with a woman. That would be oppressive. That's hocd. That's literally just OCD in general. Oppressive intrusive thoughts that you do not welcome. Like do you have OCD? Come on. Internalized homophobia? No one said liking or being with the same gender is wrong. It's not our preference? What you're saying would be like a straight person telling you "why don't you just be with the opposite gender and like it"? That would be ridiculous, you don't want it because you're not into it and the same goes for people with hocd.
Inferno Inferno
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Factz
AmartheAmarthe
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I see a LOT of people with hocd acting like same gender attraction is gross, morally wrong, etc. Please explain to me how that isn't homophobia. Also, I literally have OCD. I do not appreciate your rudeness.
hateocd123hateocd123
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@Zera And I didnt appreciate yours.
AmartheAmarthe
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@hateocd123 I wasn't being rude, I was asking a question. Please explain how acting like same gender attraction is gross and morally wrong is not homophobia.
ocdillustratedocdillustrated
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@Zera I can see both sides here. Perhaps the frequency of this obsessive content reflects homophobia within the culture, rather than in individuals. Just like loads of people's OCD got tied up in worries about AIDS. It was a fear in the culture, so naturally it showed up in individuals' OCD, even if they personally wouldn't be concerned about it otherwise
AmartheAmarthe
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@ocdillustrated That's basically what I believe to some extent.
MarsMars
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@Zera I don’t think think Zera was being rude. I kind of see these a lot as well, and actually had to report someone on this app for saying something actually kind of discriminatory at one point. It’s kind of like where is the line drawn, Because it really isn’t so black and white. I try to be understanding because of course I’ve had hocd in the other direction (fear of being straight). I think Zera just wants to understand the thought process. And sadly people with mental illnesses will clash with each other. Someones ocd could trigger another persons ocd but not someone else’s, etc.
MarsMars
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@Mars I will also say as well, questioning internalized homophobia I don’t think is rude either. I could see how it can be triggering, it does play with intrusive thoughts but the sad truth is for some people that IS their truth, and you HAVE to accept the unknown anyways. Only YOU know who you are, not your OCD. Some people really do have internalized homophobia and some people have HOCD. But asking questions isn’t rude, and while it may be triggering it’s just something that must be accepted. Even saying the word gay is triggering I saw someone say? It’s just life and some things you really need to just accept. We all need to accept things. Things trigger my OCD constantly but the way to help yourselves is accept the ocd for what it is and keep moving on.
Inferno Inferno
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@Mars When someone said gay it used to trigger me so I’m not sure if your saying I was wrong
MarsMars
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@Peridottttt I’m saying that OCD is a battle that you’ll have to overcome just like all of us will. I’ve had words trigger me before as well- we all have ocd on here. Like I said this isn’t a black and white situation. It’s just where is the line drawn? I’m sorry that word is a trigger for you as well, I’ve had words triggered for me and still do, but we just have to live with those words. I don’t think there is exactly a right or wrong in this situation, just simply a line and the crossing of it is blurred and unsure.
MarsMars
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@Peridottttt You can’t control what your ocd triggers you, and I’m sorry that word did trigger you. All I’m saying is that you can’t let it control you as hard as it is because it is a common word and gay people are common normal people that you’ll experience. OCD is a confusing and scary thing and we can’t control what it tries to scare us with but we can control how we react slowly over time. I wish you the best.
Inferno Inferno
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@Mars Ocd was really hard for me when I had hocd and didn’t realize others had the same. But now I don’t care if I feel gay
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geodrimilis
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- 15w
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Think logically. Literally. Take me as an example. I have hocd and my obsession is “what if I’m gay”. I’ve liked girls my whole life, I can still get aroused by them and I can’t get the same instinctive reaction from a guy. So I can’t be gay. Sometimes ocd will go to something else once you prove it wrong. Maybe like. “What if I’m bi” again I can only get aroused by girls. Sometimes when I’m not thinking about it I can even get aroused when sitting next to a girl or when I’m sitting next to one or even when I’m touching one in a non sexual way. Something that never happens or has happened with a guy in my life. Don’t start panicking. Just “realise” who you are and who you’ve been.
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