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I deal with it quite often actually!!
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Have any methods of facing it and rrecovering?
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@Sam212 when i feel especially out of it i exercise to get my mind off of it and it actually helps SO SO much. i also play video games or watch netflix to distract myself! when the weather is nice though i also like to go explore outside
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I’ve had it for about a month now 24/7 but it’s gotten better.
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So much harder to deal with it when ocd is invlolved I’ve had some of the worst thoughts during the last month.
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@lulu23 Same, it's been tough
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@lulu23 Would you mind talking about it? Sharing your experience? I don't know what Is happening anymore
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@Sam212 Sure I’ll try to leave out my thoughts so I don’t trigger you. What happened was I went on Prozac and quit cold turkey because my doc said to. Shortly after everything felt dreamlike. I remember just feeling out of it and as if I was just floating through life on autopilot. There were times I would talk to someone and after I had no idea how I was able to say everything. It’s weird as if my brain is separated into a logical thinking me and the dissociated part. It’s really difficult to explain as I’m sure you know. There were a ton of other things that happened including all these philosophical intrusive thoughts. When it comes to the thoughts the best way I can explain it to someone is two friends getting high smoking weed and coming up with all these weird questions and acting funny. Except for me I’m not high and the thoughts affect me way more than they should. . ( I would give an example with one of my thoughts but I’m not sure if it will trigger you or not) I know I’m dissociated but I can’t confirm it’s dpdr I just feel like it is because I relate to many with dpdr.
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@lulu23 Now I just try to live life to the best of my ability with all of these thoughts and feelings coming along for the ride. I do things I wouldn’t have before my dissociation. I’m just hoping I will come out of this state one day soon. I will say it’s gotten better and I hear it’s always a gradual recovery with dpdr
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Thank you so much. For me I find that it is a little more complicated but I need some time to explain as best I can
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Yea I can’t explain the feeling but the thoughts seem to be my ocd. The feeling is so difficult to explain how do you explain your dissociation?
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@lulu23 A lot of what you said is similar to my experience as well. Earlier I remember that I would feel "spaced out " at worst and just disconneted from my identity. When my friend rationalized his ocd and convinced himself he was no longer transgender, I, a trans person with ocd too, had a lot of intrusive thoughts about it as well. They would spike up occasionally, it did happen when I felt "disconnected " from myself. It's hard to explain but sometimes I would feel as if I was just existing, like I would walk but wouldn't recognize the fact I was walking. It was weird, the autopilot feeling happened. It mainly centered around depersonalization, feeling disconnected from the sense of self. It's a long story but to cut it short, I still experienced the intrusive thoughts. I don't know how exactly to explain it but that's my story. In all I think the stress is the worst part of it. When I think of my transition, I would feel happy, and I still do, but for a time I would get this feeling of stress that just came on and it would linger. I don't know if any of this makes sense or if it is dpdr but yeah
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I read a lot of other people’s posts where they deal with intrusive feelings, and sometimes even emotions? Would anyone care to further explain so i can understand this better? it would be very much appreciated.
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i came out of it now i’m back in , what helps?
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I recently posted about my experience with Existential OCD (https://app.treatmyocd.com/community/posts/2184668), and one of the most common questions I got was how to deal with DPDR (depersonalization and derealization), as it often goes hand-in-hand with existential obsessions. I wanted to create this post to summarize my thoughts and understanding of DPDR, so I have something to point people towards. For context, I'm not a trained mental health professional, doctor, or neuroscientist. I'm just someone who has been through the gambit with OCD, and has learned about the mind through conversations with several therapists, reading books, and watching videos. I also regularly consult with a few Buddhist teachers, and have been practicing meditation for several years. Please keep all of this in mind, and take everything I say with a grain of salt. First, some quick terminology: Depersonalization = a feeling of "detachment" from your own body, almost as if you're living life as an autonomous robot. Derealization = a feeling of "detachment" from the outside world, where people, places, and things feel distant or alien. They often go hand-in-hand, and mainly differ in terms of what feels "unreal" (yourself, or the outside world). It's easy to see how this can coincide with obsessive existential thoughts. After all, when things feel unreal, how can you help but think about the big questions of existence? So these feelings often make those with OCD extremely uncomfortable, and the desire to make it "go away" inevitably arises. But, just like with anxiety, most attempts to "get rid" of it generally make it worse. Even grounding exercises can become problematic if the goal of those exercises is to get rid of DPDR, just like any other compulsion. That's why my first piece of advice is always to acknowledge and accept the feeling. One way to get comfortable accepting any feeling is to understand where it comes from. As of today, the exact neurobiological workings of DPDR aren't fully understood, but one thing seems to be pretty clear: DPDR is the result of the brain momentarily shifting gears to protect itself from overwhelm. It's something that happens when you are stressed, and/or burnt out. It's the brain protecting itself from overstimulation, similar to a circuit breaker closing down parts of an electrical circuit to prevent overloading. It's important not to take this information as reassurance against the existential intrusive thoughts that arise during DPDR, rather simply as an explanation as to what is happening in the present moment. I'm a big proponent of using "maybe, maybe not" responses to intrusive thoughts. So in the case of DPDR, you may considering responding to the existential thoughts with: "Maybe that's true, maybe it isn't. Right now, this brain is overwhelmed, and it is protecting itself." (Side note: the use of "this brain" instead of "my brain" is a habit I've picked up from Buddhist philosophy. It's a way of practicing non-attachment to the self. If that doesn't work for you then feel free to phrase it in whatever way makes sense. I also recognize the beautiful irony of bringing up non-attachment in a post about DPDR 😂) Basically, you want to acknowledge the existential thoughts, acknowledge the feeling of DPDR, acknowledge that the DPDR is coming from a place of stress, and then refocus your attention to the present moment. The key is to not refocus your attention in hopes to GET RID of the thoughts or feelings, but to do it DESPITE those things. You need to teach yourself first-hand that none of those things are dangerous, and that you can continue to live life while scary thoughts exist in the mind, and while you feel uncomfortable things. The more you try to push the DPDR away, or logically dig yourself out of a hole, the more stressed you will become. And since DPDR is a stress response, this will only cause it to stick around longer. It's the same ironic cycle that fuels the intrusive thought / compulsion loop. Sometimes it can last for a few minutes, a few hours, days, weeks, or even months. While DPDR disorder exists, in many cases (especially with OCD), DPDR tends to persist because of our resistance to it. If you find that it just won't go away, try not to get discouraged. Instead, look for the resistance, and consider how you may be able to open up to the experience in a lighter way. If you find yourself resisting, gently remind yourself: "I don’t need to figure this out right now. I can let the brain do its thing and focus on living life." It can also help to recontextualize the DPDR. I like to think of it like a warm blanket or sweater, or the brain taking a nap. You wouldn't want to wake someone up from a nap, would you? Let 'em rest! I hope there is something helpful here for those struggling with this issue. Trust me, I've been there.
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