I relapsed over watching porn and masturbation, this is not so much ocd related, but it weakens me and my faith, also I start to fear my pocd came back again

Why and what things?

@Newstage Firstly? Relapse suggests an addiction which I doubt you met criteria for in the first place (like being obsessed with porn and watching it constantly and neglecting other things and people just to watch porn, spending all your money on it, it's damaging your life etc). It's not all that healthy to think of something which isn't actually an addiction as an addiction, it's just a form of self-shaming for normal behaviour, it's dysfunctional. Reality here is clearly that masturbating increases intrusive thoughts from POCD and either causes religious guilt or the POCD causes religious guilt. Your decision to quit all porn and masturbation is an avoidance compulsion designed to help you avoid uncomfortable feelings and obsessions and triggers as much as possible rather than treating them. The second wildly unhealthy thing here is anyone else in the thread thinking it's smart to go along with framing this compulsion a moral choice. Guitarmarraw seems to get it, she unfortunately does the same avoidance compulsion as you but she knows that it's a compulsion. Just because religious guilt made you quit or the POCD associated with masturbation made you start to lose faith in your religion, doesn't mean that the avoidance compulsion is actually healthy or something to be encouraged. Masturbation is healthy. No-fap isn't.

@Scoggy Understood. Thanks for making it clear, for many times I though I was an addict, but still I have a strong discomfort in aceppting porn and masturbation

@Newstage I just don't think that full-on avoiding it is the answer if the masturbation causes you intense feelings of moral shame, and feeling like a bad person. The best thing is to do some ERP for those feelings and whatever intrusive thoughts come up. After you feel the feelings (instead of arguing or checking or ruminating and other compulsions), so you aren't scared of them. Then if you still decided your values were that porn or masturbation IS some way immoral and you truly believe it (not just feel guilty), you could act on that.

What are you on about? Every study ever conducted shows that masturbation is good for mental and physical health, and porn only causes problems when there's an addiction, and in those cases it's not porn which is the problem. You've pulled this idea "porn has been proven to cause huge mental and behavioural problems" either out your ass or out of a Christian pamphlet with no citation. Evidence would be nice before you go moralising and telling other people to research lmao. You don't get to decide what is "moral" for other people. I've said to him that deciding not to watch porn on personal "moral" grounds like religious norms rather than as an avoidance compulsion is perfectly fine after actually treating the OCD. Whereas you seem to be claiming to be the ultimate arbitor of what's "moral" or not. Your opinions aren't facts. And your lazy attempts at backing up your bigotry aren't facts either.

https://www.sciencealert.com/is-masturbation-good-for-you-science-answer https://www.healthline.com/health/masturbation-side-effects 1. Pain, stress and anxiety reduction 2. Less prostate cancer 3. Improved fertility 4. Improved sleep Also specifically mentioned is the fact that masturbation is not immoral, only causes problems when there is an escalating addiction, and that guilt about masturbation requires therapy.

Just never trust a guy who claims that they've "done their own research" so they won't provide you with any sources or evidence. You should speak to a therapist.