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Bub, I think you're already checking by the fact you had an emotional reaction to this trigger which likely consisted of adrenaline/anxiety, and analysed whether it could be jealousy. Leasing you to saying "it feels like I'm jealous" rather than "I am jealous". You also say you don't care. People who are jealous know that they're jealous. They know why they're jealous, they feel angry at the person or situation that made them jealous, and they most definitely do care. If you can spend some time letting the emotions and feelings which you have called 'jealousy' just happen, without analysing them or looking for reasons for them any more than you already have, then feeling them can actually make them go away. You felt an unknown feeling, had a fear that it might be jealousy because that would be an indicator for your obsession, you analysed it to death to decide that it probably is jealousy, then looked for possible reasons why you could feel that way. I really feel like the tendency to immediately label all emotions and relate them to your obsession is your Achilles heel. Doing that is a checking compulsion. I know the urge is strong to work out what it means whenever there's a trigger around and you feel 'something', but not trying to find out what it is, wont hurt you. That's the moment to say "I'll figure out what it was and what it meant later, some other time", and to feel it in your body instead of labeling it. Once it's gone, you'd be able to know that, as you said, you don't care that some girls like your brother, and possibly also be able to think "yeah I am a bit jealous/resentful that he has a normal life and isn't going through what I'm dealing with". It would be normal to feel that way. Clarity about what you're feeling and what you believe/like/care about/want etc doesn't ever come from checking for relationships between every feeling or situation we encounter and our obsession. Clarity happens organically, *after* feeling things through til they're gone. If you really want clarity, you should give this a go. When you feel that urge to automatically check to give a name to what you feel all the time and check if/how it relates to your obsession, instead take some deep breaths and say "I'll do it later". Not knowing will be scary but remember that if you do it, you still won't know then either. If the feelings are very intense, they can be felt through in the body, without labelling them or finding meanings for them. Imagine you have stage fright. You were ready to go on, you've got 5 minutes and suddenly you're hit with a massive wave of fear that you're going to forget your lines and everyone will stare at you and it will be the worst thing you ever did. You COULD respond to that fear with analysis, attempt to argue it down by saying that you know your lines, decide that it says something about reality, wonder whether it's an omen that you're going to fail, fear that the adrenaline will cause a heart attack, etc etc. None of those things will make the fear less intense. The only thing that can help is to feel the fear. You have the choice in that situation, instead of analysing, labelling, giving it meanings and power over you, to simply acknowledge that you're having a wave of fear and anxiety feel it. Letting it be felt is the only way to get an unpleasant emotion to "go away". You embrace it and honour it, letting it be felt even though it's awful in your chest and stomach, until it goes away. Then it's gone, and you know perfectly well that you can do your on-stage performance. You can't control your emotions by pushing them away, that only makes them control you. Feelings are like having young children who want your attention. If you keep avoiding them or telling them to go away or arguing with them, they'll pester you more, their mood will get worse and they'll try more desperately in the future to get your attention. Whereas if you just listen for a few minutes, give them a hug, tell them you like their drawing etc, they'll go away happy. Feeling your feelings doesn't make what you're scared they might mean "come true", it doesn't make you unprepared, it doesn't mean accepting the meanings always you put on them. They're not your enemy, they just want to be felt. When something like this truggers you, just don't add meanings and then try to solve those. Feel the feelings for what they are instead, and go from there.
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Ok, thank you so much. ❤
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Idk why, but I am scared to do it
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@Bisho Scared to do what?
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@Lina Feel the feelings, cuz idk what to do, maybe there is just another problem~ Anyways I am trying to understand a few things and fix a few things, I will try this first then look again to the feelings and my attitude toward them It is as if I am misunderstanding something My talking might seem kind of vague because I am talking about a specific thing tho
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@Bisho Everybody with OCD is scared of feeling the feelings and thinks that maybe the OCD thoughts indicate something real. Trying to understand more and fix other things are compulsions. Your feelings and attitude towards the thoughts are unlikely to change after doing compulsions. Feel the feelings first. They don't make you believe the feelings or make it come true. After feeling, you become free to decide what you believe based on things you know, instead of based on overwhelming feelings that you have taught your own brain to give you.
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@Scoggy Oh, I am not talking about the ocd I suppose, not the intrusive thoughts but rather a little bit ling story I think I had ocd, I was not diagnosed, still not diagnosed. I had the thought that I am a hypocrite, since I read signs of hypocrisy and found some in me I became a little worse, then a little better, then a little worse in religion Anyways, I founded few years ago that people of faith would cry when hearing the verses and the truth, I was un-knowledgable enought to actually force myself t cry?⁉️ Anyways, now I just feel avoiding anything that makes me feel guilty and any guilt feelings specially religion-related and I know it is not good since it is effecting me in an obvious way These are the feelings I am talking about, I am afraid of guilt, of being overwhelmed, of feeling bad or afraid, of not following the guidance of the book ( I know that this one is a little off and Idk what is supposed to be ) and afraid of not feeling and not reacting to it I know that I am forcing myself or whatever but almost no one obviously said that it is ok to not feel anything at all or even think or give a thought while reading verses of the Holy Book, Idk if it is ok or not or what to do or how to deal with it I am avoiding preaches and lessons talking about concentration and feelings in prayer and while reading the Holy Book, I dont really know exactly whats going on and I just downloaded this app this morning
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@Bisho Also afraid of feeling the feelings that are supposed to be felt by true believers and people of faith idk why exactly
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@Bisho You're definitely talking about OCD. Your type is called moral/religious OCD. Your fear of having the wrong emotional responses has become part of the OCD. You check your emotional response and feel worse if you decide it's "wrong" or there is no response, you use it as evidence for your fears. That's a compulsion. Your type of OCD is common. Your compulsions are common. To treat it, do as I said to Lina and feel your feelings instead of labelling them as "wrong" or as "meaning something".
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@Scoggy Thank you, oh my God I felt happy when you said that it is definitly ocd, and when you replied to my other post I really am very happy now Doing it on my own might be a little difficult, it might take some time to process in my mind and I might, might need a little help that I would search for then. Your reply made me very happy and relieved, things are clearer I somehow have been denying or unsure if it was ocd Aaahh I am so relieved I can start working on it Again thank you so much I will look on it ishallah (by the will of God)
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