- Username
- nikkilynne02
- Date posted
- 4y ago
Happened once, I imagined someone dying and a few weeks later they died randomly. I knew that if I thought too much about it it could turn into just that kind of magical thinking loop, even though I didn't know I had OCD. So I've deliberately not ever dwelled on it, I occasionally have a thought about it or remember that it was eerie, but I refuse to spend extra time obsessing, so the feelings of anxiety and responsibility never got big and are easy to not dwell on. Rationally I know that reality doesn't work that way. I can see how it would be harder if it happened multiple times. That's a really sucky set of coincidences to happen to someone who already has OCD. But you need to go against it, yeah? In fact, deliberately thinking those thoughts would be the best way to quickly show your brain that the link isn't real. I'd actually recommend starting with things which feel less probable and less personal like "the USA could get nuked by North Korea and everyone will die", and working up to specific things like "my sibling could be hit by a car" and "one of my friends could fall down the stairs". Weirdly although the first one seems worse, it would probably cause less anxiety, so it could be a good lower step on the hierarchy for you. You know rationally that your thoughts can't make things happen, and you CAN prove that to your feelings. Go for something big and vague to start with, preferably something immediate. "A comet could hit the international space station today". Something that causes genuine anxiety because you're thinking it deliberately, but not a huge amount because it's also a bit ridiculous. Then response prevention: don't argue with it, don't imagine ways you could escape the disaster, don't ruminate on it, don't pray, just let that idea be there in your mind, and carry on with your day. Look at some lists online first about mental compulsions so you can identify all the things you mustn't do and be able to direct your attention away from doing them if you notice them starting. Tomorrow, boom, nothing happened. Then keep going, working up a hierarchy. The great thing about ERP is you don't have to start with flooding and scripting things which give you top tier anxiety, you can start with much lower ideas and build up your confidence as you go.
You could even start with imagining things happening which aren't that bad, just a small bummer, those could make good lower hierarchy steps too.
@Scoggy Thank you for this. I'm going to try. I like your idea of working my way up to the things that cause the most anxiety and compulsions. my family doesn't get it nor understands how I feel so its helpful to talk with people that at least understand its something I cant shut off.
Or, maybe think hard about how awful it would be to win a $10M lottery (family, friends, et al, would be begging for money, you would become a recluse to avoid these people, you would die in a crash involving your cherished Maserati, etc.) and see what happens. But, maybe nore seriously, write down the names of a family member or two and state that you hope that the person(s) die in the next two weeks and then let us know what happens on June 15. We want to hear more evidence of your special powers.
I don't have special powers. This isn't a laughing matter. You have no idea how terrible I feel and how much this affects my life. I was asking if anyone has had this and knows how to stop it. I know it's not logical but the brain does what it wants. Call me crazy if you want.. I'm used to it. I just asked for advice on how to fix things. You my friend do not help my situation.
@nikkilynne02 He was suggesting things for your ERP hierarchy and challenging your OCD belief, not mocking you.
@nikkilynne02 Sorry, I didn't mean to come off as condescending. I was only trying to illustrate a point with examples. I probably need to be more careful the next time.
Not your fault. I'm really on edge with everything. My OCD and anxiety are seriously debilitating at times. I wish I could shut it off. I dont know anyone that has this and nor does my family understand anything I'm going through so I feel isolated and alone to deal with this. I have a counselor but with this stupid virus we can only do zoom meetings and I feel I don't get the help I'm looking for when it's all virtual. I hate this and hate feeling so miserable all the time. I just wanna feel normal. I wouldn't long for such a feeling had I not known what that felt like but I do. My OCD was manageable when I was younger as it was just silly odd things separating colors,counting ect. But about a year ago I started having harm ocd and its terrifying to say the least
Do you have an OCD therapist who uses ERP?
No. I have a regular counselor. I dont even know where to begin to look for one that specializes in ocd or erp
Have you tried the International OCD Foundation website?
No, never heard of it. I'll check it out. Hopefully it's something I can utilize
You can search the IOCDF website for therapists located in the bigger cities in your state that have indicated that they specialize in OCD treatment using ERP.
I’m having intrusive thoughts of something horrible happening to a loved one and the ocd says that I’m “attracting it to happen” and that no matter what I say or do I’ll “attract” this to become reality when I know logically that it was just a thought but the what if and the “if you do this then____ will happen” I just feel so intensely afraid and I never want these things to be real obviously but idk it’s just a scary what if and it’s hard to believe that something that feels so real is just a thought—- then I proceed after recognizing it’s just a thought to fear that saying that somehow the universe will cause that horrible thing to happen as “proof” so I just sit and wait and beg everyone to be careful and keep in contact with me so I know they are ok The thing is is that nothing ever happens but the fear just feels like it’s actually occurring Goshh I’m a friggin mess
I don't know what to do or how to stop this : ( if anyone has advice please, please let me know! It's happening to me that whenever I watch/read TV at night, get into an argument with a loved one, or haven't talked to them for a while I start to have intrusive thoughts/images that they're gonna get fatally hurt. For example, about seven months ago I had a car accident. I don't think I was left necessarily traumatized, but rather every time I have (the previously mentioned) intrusive thoughts I begin to reimagine my loved ones in that same (or similar) situations... and no matter how much I try to NOT acknowledge them...they often lead me to having anxiety or panic attacks. The only way that I seem to be able to stop these intrusive thoughts is by sleeping it off… but then that leaves to lack of productivity throughout the day and affects my life… I try my best to not give in into compulsions…especially because I also have dermatillomania so I KNOW that if I DO give in…it’ll end up bad. I’ve tried writing things down to see if it helps to calm me down. Although that did work for a while, I’ve started to feel/think that if I write my thoughts down they’ll increase possibility of actually happening :( so I’ve stopped doing that for a while now. I don’t know what to do anymore!
I know this is insane but please, PLEASE hear me out. I just need someone to tell me they relate in some way or something. Does anyone else feel like they have some sort of 'magic' that they accidentally manifested from 'wishing' too hard during a traumatic time and can't feel like you can control it now, which is pretty anxiety inducing since it feels like it would make people be able to feel or see your ocd thoughts? Or use your muscle tensing as part of your ocd? Like if you have an intrusive thought while tensing a muscle, you feel like it's going to come true so you have to 'correct' it by thinking a good thought then tense your muscles again? Because I have both of them. :(
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