I just read an experience from an "HOCD sufferer" on google who at the end he discovered he is bisexual and now i'm in a panic attack ???

Yes you're right. I can't do therapy because I'm from Europe. ?

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@NOCD Advocate - Carl Cornett Is hocd denial?

@10lewis10 What’s your opinion?

@NOCD Advocate - Carl Cornett I don’t have opinion

@NOCD Advocate - Carl Cornett Thank you so much!

@10lewis10 Usually if someone poses the question it means they’re trying to get an explanation for the intrusive thoughts/images/urges/etc they may be experiencing. Are you not sure whether or not it’s denial?

@NOCD Advocate - Carl Cornett Yh I don’t know if it’s ocd or denial, It makes me feel like I want or like the thoughts but I hate it and disgust me, just want my life back

@js94 that triggered me ?

Not true. We have had plenty of users even here who after HOCD were comfortable describing themselves as bisexual. It's not a choice between HOCD or denial. You can have attractions to the same sex and also have HOCD. All OCD needs is anxiety and uncertainty.

@Scoggy To me that’s just denial the, what your saying is everyone hates it but are bi or gay, are you saying knowing here is straight

@10lewis10 No one*

@10lewis10 Yes I think the same

@MiquelFM Well I cba with life then because I don’t want the same sex

@10lewis10 It's pretty wilfully ignorant to interpret my statement as saying that nobody here is straight lmao

@Scoggy @Scoggy May I ask why your saying lmao, you do know what ocd is don’t you? Sorry if I worry and sorry misunderstanding but saying lmao Is immature

@10lewis10 And deliberately misrepresenting what I said is deeply immature, you know full well that I wasn't claiming that "noone here is straight". And why on earth wouldn't I "know what OCD is"? Precisely zero percent of my statements have suggested that. I'm sorry that you were ignorant about how OCD works. I reiterate: we have plenty of members who have suffered HOCD and post-recovery comfortably identify as non-straight. One of those members, Zoya, is even still here on the app. To call this "denial" when the individuals are suffering OCD symptoms is both dismissive and pretty ignorant. Anything which causes anxiety is something which we can develop OCD about, there is absolutely no requirement that it be an untrue thing. Take real event OCD, for example. This does not make their experience "denial", their OCD symptoms are just as valid as anybody elses. Don't lash out at others because you're triggered. It's rude.

@Scoggy Someone else thoughts that’s what you meant so mabe re read what you said plus I’m not triggered at anyone even if I was it would be about your statement no one else so don’t try make me look like the bad guy, like everyone else here I worried and scared, your flgetting funny at me for being worried your suppose to help not say lmao

@10lewis10 Well maybe next time you get worried don't accuse me of saying something I obviously wasn't saying. Nobody else thought it was either, and my statement was very clear. You're just pissy because I didn't "help" you by giving you reassurance.

@10lewis10 I struggle to believe you ACTUALLY thought that pointing out that gay or bi people can still have HOCD means "nobody here is straight". You'd have to be pretty bad at simple logic to draw a conclusion like that. That's like if someone points out that leaves aren't always green sometimes they're brown or red, and you accuse them of claiming that leaves are never green. It thoroughly deserves a lmao.

@Scoggy Do you have Instagram because I have gc about hocd and we can talk

@Scoggy Yo I wasn’t getting funny as someone else did think you said that, I like how you think I’m getting pissy, text can come across in anyway for saying what that could be a pardon way or or a rude way so how can you tell I’m pissy. You got funny with me before about nofap saying I’m wrong and everything so your the one who pissy not me

@Omar123 You have a group chat?

@10lewis10 Ohh were you also the guy who said no-fap is a smart idea for people with sexual OCDs? That explains a lot ?

@Scoggy No I said try it, why you being horrible, like you got to answer saracticly or rude

@10lewis10 At a guess I'd think I'm being snarky because you first put nonsense words in my mouth that I was claiming nobody here is straight, then accused me of not knowing what OCD is and saying that I'm immature to say "lmao", then said I am being pissy because I've previously pointed out that encouraging people with sexual OCDs to avoid sexual triggers is damaging in several ways. This entire conversation has stemmed from you getting mad that I pointed out how you misrepresented my statements about HOCD. I've explained my reasoning several times so I don't imagine that the issue is that you don't understand me. All I can do at this point is to reiterate that your misrepresentations of my original points about HOCD were offensive, you claimed that I was judging our members with HOCD by inserting your own bizarre and rude interpretations about "denial" and that they're never straight, into my own balanced and evidenced statement. Whether the reason you did this was your own OCD black and white thinking or you just logic-failed, I don't appreciate being misrepresented and having my words skewed into something ignorant.

@Scoggy I’m not mad, maybe next time be careful how you put things because I’m not the only one who thought this. I may have misunderstood however the way you put it was so confusing not just from me. Sorry for that however being sarcastic in your reply isn’t nice especially when I’m dealing ocd like everyone else

@Carbon96 Yeah u wanna join

@10lewis10 What I wrote was perfectly clear, the other user was agreeing with your assertion that if you have HOCD and are gay, it's "denial" as opposed to legitimate OCD. They gave no indication that they were agreeing with your comment suggesting that my pointing out that it's possible to have HOCD and be gay means "nobody here is straight". I couldn't possibly have said it in a clearer way. I've read my comment back many times and see no way that it could be understood to mean that "nobody here is straight". That was your blunder and yours alone.

@Scoggy Guys, while I understand that there’s some strong emotions at play here, I don’t know that either of you are feeling any better by debating back and forth.

@NOCD Advocate - Carl Cornett I wouldn't know, I blocked that guy.

@Troyofgreece Yea instahram is Blueberry_gt

It also happened to me. Since HOCD my brain takes every thing and transforms in gay thoughts.

See that’s a sensible answer so thank you ?