Has anyone work with Sam Greenblatt or with Dr. Steven Phillipson's clinic? I would like to know if I was the only person with a poor experience.

Haha, good for u

Because there was no resolution to the problem, why are they keeping a clinician that is ineffective. There was no apology, nothing and I lost money. They took the whole thing as a joke when I was almost hospitalized. Why should I stay silent. Too many of us have been silent for far too long.

@Heythere Because resolution is like certainty or closure. Searching for it does more harm than not having it

@NOCD Advocate - Katie You are hurting yourself by stewing on it, not having an impact on them at all.

@NOCD Advocate - Katie So I should allow others to go there and suffer?

@Heythere You can't control whether others go there. You're not responsible for any harm that might befall them. I'm sensing overestimation of responsibility distortions. You let the agency know you were upset. You made a report to the licensing board. That is already MORE than you "had" to do

@NOCD Advocate - Katie Honestly it's painful for me to watch you prolonging and deepening the harm to yourself that this issue started.

@NOCD Advocate - Katie I do apologize for the pain I'm causing. I feel immense pain watching the guy stay at the agency, make $200 an hour eventhough he was a mess and not suffer any consequences. It bothers me.

@Heythere I think bothers is an understatement... From what I observe, it tortures you. Which means YOU are the one still being hurt. If something bothers you, you go "oh, that's annoying" and move on with life

@Heythere I'm trying to move on but I'm struggling too when I see him get away with his behavior.

@Heythere What actions are you taking to move on? You've got to change actions first, then feelings will catch up

@NOCD Advocate - Katie The action is letting others know not to work with him

@Heythere That's the opposite of moving on. That's actively continuing to perseverate on the trauma.

@NOCD Advocate - Katie Every time you return to this conversation, you tell your brain to be more hurt, to feel more responsible for other people's actions and the related consequences and to spend more time thinking about how you were wronged. That's just more torture

@NOCD Advocate - Katie It's like someone smashed your knee with a hammer. They were wrong. They hurt you. You didn't deserve it. But know you're smashing your other knee with a hammer in a misguided attempt to demonstrate to others why they shouldn't go there. The end result is two smashed knees.

@NOCD Advocate - Katie I see. Thanks

@Heythere @Heythere Hey :) I rethought some of what I said. I don't think you're hurting yourself by talking about what happened. Talking through trauma is an important way of processing it. However, for it to help, you really need to do it with a therapist. Your experience was real. If every other person who got therapy from philipson thought it was the best therapy they ever had- you would still be hurt. Because they hurt you. No one else's experience changes that. The "has anyone else had a bad experience" veers into OCD territory because you're using other people's experiences as reassurance to validate your own-but reassurance adds to doubt, so you're bit by bit invalidating your own experience. Similarly, believing that you are responsible for preventing anyone else from going to philipson in case they get hurt too is in OCD territory because you're holding yourself responsible for the possible negative consequences of someone else's actions. Thinking that it's even possible for you to singlehandedly put them out of business is an unacheivable goal. So chasing it is setting yourself up to feel defeated and more hurt. You deserve to have a safe space to process the trauma. You deserve to talk about it. But you need someone who can help you talk about it in a way that sidesteps the OCD so that you can heal

@NOCD Advocate - Katie Thank u for ur response. I dont want to push him out of business. That will never happen. What I want is to bring an awareness of my experience to others. I would be remiss not to do so. The issue i have is if you look at Sam Greenblatt's psychology today page, it says that he is warm, caring, concerned about cost of therapy but my experience was the complete opposite. I've found that he understands psychological principles, knows what clients want and is using that to manipulate people. That is ethically wrong. Either he was lying to his supervisor or his supervisor supports his behavior. Seeing as to how there was no apology(which I understand bc it holds them liable), the latter appears to be true. I've processed this. I was confused after treatment to the point where I needed to take a pause. There should have been consequences to his behavior. There wasnt and I suspect this isnt the first time hes done this and it won't be his last.

@Heythere If warning people is your goal, how can you do that in a way that doesn't require you perseverating on what happened?

@NOCD Advocate - Katie I'm not sure.

Chile, they dont need ur money. If u cant get a hold of them, they're not interested. Who did u work with bc I had a HORRIBLE experience. They got rich and switched. Customer service went out the door.

@Heythere I worked with Dr. Kalman.

@emy730 AI wish I had worked with that practitioner.