I wonder: if ocd is an incurable disease, why should I spend money in drugs or psychotherapy if none of them will cure me? I have also tinnitus, which is an incurable condition too, but I’m not spending something to see an ENT doctor every week or taking drugs just because there is no cure.

The problem is I want a cure, not a treatment. If there is no cure, what’s the point of wasting money in drugs or therapy? I found relief from mindfulness, but still, as you are saying, the problem lingers.

@springhesigaboniek I don’t know, for me it was worth the time and money. I still have work to do, but I don’t want to die any more and that’s worth it to me. And if I can keep working and be able to stop ocd from interfering with sleep, work, relationships, ect, then that would be worth it too.

@Nikki1809 Indeed you took a big step, so I wish the best for you ?

Agree! So important.

Well...studies show that you by ERP actually can rewire your brain, show n in CT:s

Ok, I have tinnitus, I have no problem to live with another condition, I know exactly what it means to live with these two conditions. But doctors should be honest and warn patients about ocd and the fact that there is no cure, so people are free to know if it is worth to spend money

@Estrid Yes. I forgot about the new studies. They see increased activity in the brain pre/post therapy. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6343408/ A number of studies examining neural mechanisms of change have identified differences in the brain from pre- to post-treatment with psychotherapy.[41,42,43] However, researchers have yet to identify how these changes are directly related to processes that then lead to clinical improvement.[44]

@Mike1234 Thanks for the link! Yes, future will show us...

Thank you for your comment. What are you talking about is a treatment, while I ( and more people ) want a cure. After 13 years of ocd, I managed it the best as I can. If the only “cure” for incurable diseases is habituation, I would invest money in something else, like mindfulness, which is reeeeeeally effective and it isn’t expensive like a long psychotherapy and buying drugs, at least unless a real cure is found

@springhesigaboniek Mindfulness can be a great part of the treatment. Of course all of us want a cure!! I have lived with OCD for 20 years...

@Estrid I’m sorry, we are still fighting this battle, but we won’t lose, so I wish the best for you ?

@springhesigaboniek Thanks? Wushing you the best too. We dont give up!

Are there any possibilities between cure and treatment?

Headache is going to disappear sooner or later, like flu, cold, etc and like those disease, they will return obviously, but when they’ll return the body will be in an healthy state ( also you can minimize the persistence of these disease with your life style ) . ocd doesn’t act like an acute disease, it is rooted within the brain and you have to just live with it.

@springhesigaboniek You appear to be arguing with our responses to your questions....

@NOCD Advocate - Katie Because I find useless to spend money in something that will never cure this condition. I’ll spend everything I have if some psychiatrists will tell me “this is the scientific method that will eradicate the ocd”, because I spent a lot on my onset of this on various doctors, promising me that I will heal, but still I have this condition. A stupid 50€ course of mindfulness helped me more than the thousand of € spent between psychiatrists and psychologist all to get nothing. Can I be a little angry at how I was treated by those who were supposed to help me?

@springhesigaboniek Of course you can be angry all emotions are allowed. If you haven't received exposure and response prevention, which is a necessary component of treatment, it's understandable that yours disillusioned. Going to therapy for ocd and not getting ERP is like going to a doctor for type 1 diabetes and not being prescribed insulin. What's not rational is the all or nothing thinking that if an illness can't be cured, it's not worth treating and the generalization that if you personally have not yet received the right treatment, that all treatment is ineffective

@NOCD Advocate - Katie As I said before, is there something between a cure and a treatment? Cure does not exists, we get that, but also ocd is not a deadly disease like hiv, so the only way to fight this condition is learning to live with it. Now why is irrational to question if a treatment for a non-deadly mental disorder is worth to spend money, a lot of money, by the way, if doctors are not honest with their patients and there are way more cheaper paths to deal with this condition?

@springhesigaboniek I'm not engaging in this conversation any further. If you don't want treatment, don't get treatment. You're allowed to make that choice. If you do so, you'll need to accept whatever consequences arise (most likely worsening OCD). I wish you the best of luck