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- Anonymous
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- 4y ago
What types of thoughts if you don’t mind saying? Like sexual OCD thoughts?
No. So for instance let’s say I try to think about something simple shaking hands with a chick the words Dude, Dick pop up. Having just a thought of a woman the dude, dick pops up in my head. It doesn’t have to be sexual.
Don’t focus on the content. It’s just reinforcing the ocd. By saying the words to yourself you are generating doubt and uncertainty. We focus on the “content” of intrusive thoughts, when we should really be focusing on the way we process the thoughts. Those thoughts scare us and activate the flight, fight or freeze response in our bodies. We react by doing some type of compulsive behavior to get relief. So, it’s not the “CONTENT” of your thoughts that mean ANYTHING AT ALL its how you process and react to them. If you process them as true thoughts and spend energy on the reactions, you will perpetuate the vicious cycle of OCD.
I was just asking what type of thoughts so I could give proper advice and exposures that I think would work! :)
I know that. But it’s always there so I need type of exposure to quiet it down.
Trust me I’m not trying to focus on it. My mind just wants to think about girls but since there is an OCD thought there it always pops up. Just reading a book I can here the thoughts dude, dick pop up and when the word women pops up in a book or seeing a picture of a women dude, dick always pops up. I work in a public place so I always get a 2nd chance to quiet my thoughts. But with women it just stays and it’s really bothering. I’ve done the exposures with looking at pictures of women to where I’ve seen it pass and I’m able to have positive thoughts of women but it just brings back the anxiety for HOCD and when that passes the words dude, dick pop up. Trust me I don’t say the words it just pops up.
🐥<- this... Is my chicken
Huh?
Just know you ain’t alone bro. I get the voice saying “look at his dick, look at his dick”. Repeatedly until I either take a ridiculously quick glance or feel like I did. Sometimes I’m not sure cause I blank out, for a second. What in a weird helps me is to also say/think “I do not give a fuck about this person”. And it gives me a bit of relief. The more I tell myself I do not give a fuck the better of a time I have. It’s not perfect cuz I still think it, but it helps me a bit. It also helps to get wrapped up into something, get a conversational flow if possible.
Also for women it’s “don’t look at her tits, don’t look at her tits”. And when I do it, a lot of the time it really doesn’t matter. It’s more how I feel about it that changes everything.
@Anonymous I’d rather have my mind say that then dude, dick seeing a chick smh.
If there is a therapist that will step up to accept the challenge of helping me with this please stand up and help me.
Can you acknowledge the intrusive thought then maybe tell yourself “their goes my ocd again with the dude/dick thing and switch it to dude/chick or something else to replace the thought.
Your ocd is trying to convince you into believing you don’t like women with the dude/dick interruption. It’s saying “see I told you so, you don’t like women you like dudes dick”. It’s just the shocking content that is making you freeze or create more anxiety. OCD is a chameleon and try’s different ways to cast doubt and uncertainty.
No all my OCD is doing is trying to make me be alone. I get it. It just sucks that there isn’t much I can do at this point. I can hear the thoughts but don’t know how to let it go and not affect my daily living. I was under the impression you can live with OCD but who wants to live the way I’m living? Who wants to feel a constant arousal all because your mind can figure out that a woman isn’t a dude, dick? I can live but I can’t live. I can go to therapy and take medication but never will it allow me to have my life again. My mind has been beaten and I keep trying to take the hits and not let it bother me but sooner or later the hits will just end up to my demise. I’ve gone 2 and half years with a constant arousal. All because my OCD convinced me and my therapist’s that I was something that I wasn’t. I mean allowing myself to not face my fear for a few times has shown the anxiety I once had for HOCD but what good is it if my mind can rationalize that a women isn’t a dude, dick? My therapist’s haven’t helped me with this. So it’s like should I even care? I keep facing my fear when I see a chick and hoping that it will go away and I’m not sure if it ever will. I think my therapist doesn’t want to do anything about it cuz she wants to be absolutely sure that being straight is who I am and that my psychosis isn’t getting in the way of this. My therapist who and all therapists who ask us to live with the uncertainty wants me to go see a therapist to see if I have psychosis or not cuz she needs certainty about a psychotic disorder I may or may not have. If what I’m feeling isn’t psychosis then yeah she’ll help me I guess but it’s funny how she has to be certain but I have to live with uncertainty smh. Oh well I guess..
Even being positive with myself and saying positive things like I got this (dude,dick) pops up I can’t even be positive in my head without that popping up and the only other time I see that is looking at women smfh. I just don’t know what to do with my life anymore smh.
I think ruling out psychosis would be a good thing know.
I know but I’m barely making it as is. I don’t have the money to wait for a psychosis diagnosis. If she thinks I have psychosis then I’m fine with meeting with a psychiatrist to prescribe me an antidepressant and psychosis medication and see how I feel after a few days to a week.
Here’s some detailed info. to check out. You might have to google search if link doesn’t work http://www.psychologyandbehavior.com/hocd-homosexual-ocd-sexual-orientation/
Search: HOCD: Homosexual OCD & Sexual Orientation OCD Center for Psychological & Behavioral Science
Not sure if this has been said, but my therapist told me to handle thoughts like you’re having like this: when you see the chick and start thinking “dick” etc., it can be very difficult but just be like “yep you’re right OCD, I just love dicks they’re the best” lol and you can get weird and uncomfortable with it to the point of thinking “omg this is so strange and silly”. It gets you to be funny about it too. I struggle with HOCD as a woman, and when I get a thought I don’t want about a girl, my therapist taught me to be like “yep just love girls and want vaginas all up in my face everyday” and omg it definitely makes it sound silly. And then I’m like no I do not want vaginas all up in my face. And it’s easier to let that thought go! :) totally understand that this description is weird AF but it’s helpful!! I hope it makes sense
Humour works for me a lot too. I had covid symptoms and was ruminating about whether only eating some of the ice cream then putting the tub back so someone else could have it later would get them sick, if the virus could survive being frozen. So I decided to imagine future news headlines for if there was a second wave of covid and they found out it was due to people half eating ice creams. "Rum and Regret" was a particularly helpful one. I guess taking my fear to its logical conclusion in this case helped me to see that it's actually pretty bizarre.
@Scoggy That’s a good one!
I’m sorry you have to go through this but with the HOCD I’m already at the point my mind can rationalize on its own without having to agree with those thoughts. I’ve elected to go the same route for the intrusive thoughts that pop up when I see a chick which is why my mind can think about sex with a women on occasion. My psychosis has caused a thought that makes my body really hypersensitive to someone looking at me and my body can just feel an arousal from someone looking at me. I’m very aware of my surroundings but I feel like I picked that up from playing sports cuz as an athlete playing football and basketball I could always feel where everybody is at and for me it was an advantage cuz I could feel it and sense it. I could always make passes in basketball that made people look at me like how tf did you know he was there or even my friends would be like how tf did you know I was there and I would just shrug my shoulders and I was like idk I could just tell. Same for football when I could get the ball in my hands I could feel a player chasing me from the side and I could make a jump cut to avoid them. In basketball I could make more feel plays then I could in football just cuz in football I would think more but sometimes when I wasn’t thinking I could make plays to where I’m like how’d I do that and then I’m like cool good to know. Like now my brother just walked into the room and I can feel a pressure in my chest and the word cute came into my head same thing when I sense a chick walking by but with a gross feeling and the word dude, or dick and sometimes both popping in my head. So it’s like for me what erp do I do that won’t make me depressed and come out on top?
@swolejaboy Yah and I feel like once we attach a word or thought to something, it causes feelings that we don’t even mean to have it just happens because we’ve trained ourselves that way now!
@princessem My therapist also wanted me to stop agreeing to anything and just let thought be there and at first i had trouble with it but I then I was like if while I’m doing meditation I don’t agree with thoughts and let them come why wouldn’t I when I’m just out and about doing my thing wouldn’t let my mind just have the thought like I would while meditating or walking to let my thoughts come out so I started to just let thoughts come out and found that my mind would do it’s own rationalization. My mind on its own would just do what you’re saying to do without needing to do it on my end. It just hasn’t for the stupid thoughts that come when I see a chick.
@princessem Yeah I know the dick thought was me purposely doing it but I’m not sure why the word dude would pop up. I can only think why the word dude would pop up was when I messed up my ERP by doing something stupid or wasn’t even ready for but I can’t go back and change it.
@swolejaboy Probably because you associate both of those words with guys! Those are two typical guy words so it makes sense!
@princessem Maybe.. but it just makes me not want look at a chick cuz those words pop up when I see them and I just want to put my head down and not look at them cuz that’s what pops up. Not something I want to see when I’m looking at a chick just saying..
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