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- 5y
It’s totally ok to ignore them- as long as you acknowledge them and the uncertainty for ERP. If not, then it’s just another compulsion- avoidance ✨
By acknolweging them I’m just aware they exist and I don’t pay attention to them . The word acknowledge them confuses me Bc it makes it seem like you’re responding
@jake Don’t respond to them, just let yourself know that they’re there. Which you seem to be doing! Just a “I got a thought in my mind that-“ and continue!
@jake I get confused on this too!! I'm like, I need more information please lol
@JustRob Yeah that’s still confusing Bc like what I do is I don’t give a thought action or anything in reply I flat out ignore it
@JustRob I’d be saying yeah I got a thought very often Bc the thoughts come so often and that sounds counterproductive and painful
@jake That’s not good- that’s a compulsion which reduces anxiety. Just do what I said before, just a little “yea these thoughts are here”
@JustRob I don’t see it as a compulsion Bc I am literally not doing anything in response
@jake If you respond and prove them false, that’s counterproductive. Recovery starts off painful and uncomfortable!
@jake You’re avoiding it, which means you don’t have to deal with it, which means you avoid anxiety.
@JustRob I think your misunderstanding I’m not responding at all I’m ignoring them not giving them a second thought or a response in any form
@JustRob I’m not pushing the thought away , I’m just letting it be there
@jake Ah ok! I thought you were pushing them away. If you let them be there, and try not to prove them false, then that should be good. Stay with them, not run away from them. Sorry for misunderstanding ✨😅😊
@JustRob No yeah for some reason people interpret me wrong when I say ignore that I’m trying to push them away and It’s the opposite it’s just letting them be there without giving them any attention , it works and then the thought fades , like I just the let the thought keep coming and just accept that there is a thought in my head and it here to stay for how ever how long
@jake I gotcha- and you seem good with hoe you’re acting! Keep on doing that and being strong, bud!
@Lotus 🍄 Hello there sorry for interrupting but I'm kinda lost atm i have so many thoughts that scare the shit out of me about sh mostly and idk how to deal with that I'm so tired of it. So i should just aknowledge the thought and then try to think about something else right ?
@jake Jake, it's not a compulsion to ignore an intrusive thought. It's what normal people do every day. What you are doing is normal and the advice you're getting from JustRob is not correct.
@lilou I getcha. Say to yourself what thoughts you are having, that they may or may not be true, and continue on without dwelling on the thoughts! You can do this. I have faith, hope, and good vibes for ya!
@Claire Oh I’m sorry. I misunderstood him. I thought ignoring was avoidance; which is a compulsion. I apologize. Could you tell me what I did wrong and the correct answer so I could learn from my mistakes? Thank you 😅🙂
@Lotus 🍄 You told him he's avoiding his thoughts when he's not. He's avoiding giving them the significance of a response. The more you respond to a thought, the more attention you give it. That tells your brain the thought is important and it will likely generate more.
@Claire Ok, I thought he was avoiding them in general. That’s my bad! I misunderstood him. I hope we’re good and thanks for teaching me 👀
So my OCD has been bad lately. I’ve been ruminating and obsessing over my sexuality again. And it just keeps getting worse. I hate it so much. I try to sit with the discomfort but then my ocd does the backdoor spike. And the groinal response is what keeps me looped. It SUCKS. I am not attracted to men, but my OCD is trying SO hard to convince me that I am. There have been days where I’m just so mentally exhausted that I “accept” what my ocd tells me and I just walk around a hollow, lethargic shell. But then I rethink it and I feel better. It feels like I can only find my TRUE self when I tire my nervous system out enough that it literally breaks down and has me suicidal and hopeless. And then accepting my OCD’s “truth” (that I’m attracted to men) feels like a burden and a chore. I woke up today from an OCD dream, tried to go back to sleep, and my stomach kept cramping bc I was so anxious and ruminating over my intrusive thoughts. I’m starting to doubt it being OCD anymore. My brain is too tired to fight and cry about it anymore.
I few years ago, I did self-harm a few times, and then I got super into spirituality, and about a year ago, I remembered I did self-harm and ever since haven't been able to shake the guilt off... Constantly, every day, my mind would make me feel guilty about it and think about it all day. It's like my brain knew the thought that I could/ have cut myself scared me, so it kept bringing it up. My family had no idea I had ever done this, so my OCD told me I was a liar for not telling them about every day. I was afraid that they wouldn't love me anymore and send me to a mental hospital if I told them. About 2-3 months ago, I had gotten so fed up with having these thoughts every day and confessed to my mom what I had done, and her reaction was great. And I thought I'd never have thoughts about when I did self-harm again because I finally confessed. I was wrong. Even with people telling me that it's okay, I did that, I can't shake the guilt I had around this event, and even more so the fear/guilt around my own thoughts... My therapist and I talk about how the problem isn't the thoughts but what the OCD does to them. I try to create positive neural pathways, but that just makes me more stressed about it. There are things I'm supposed to tell myself when I feel negative, but I think I get that confused and tell myself those things every time I have thoughts about what I did. Which is feeding into a mental compulsion (replacing every "bad" thought with a "good" one. What works for me is (if I can) do nothing and have the thoughts... It's been hard to get better because I have had no idea what's been happening to me and felt like for the last year I was going crazy... I always thought OCD was cleaning stuff and physical compulsions . Everything that happened to me happened in my head. On the worst days when my OCD is really bad, every single time I was conscious and aware, I was thinking about the fact that I did self-harm. I would lie in bed all day trying to figure out my thoughts because I thought if I watched TV, I would be avoiding important things. I thought I had to figure out all my thoughts. I would ruminate, replay, and second-guess all. day. long. It was hard to recognize it was OCD because I thought I had done something seriously bad and wrong, and that I must deserve these thoughts. I think the trick is that you feel like you must have positive thoughts, and the most distressing thing wasn't necessarily the fact that I did self-harm, but the fact that I couldn't stop thinking about it. I find the best thing you can do is just have all your thoughts in your head and try not to separate them from good and bad, if you can. It's nice to have people who understand!!!! More to come, about the journey. My favorite thing to say when I'm stuck is "that sly devil... OCD. Silly OCD is getting to me right now, but it won't last forever. That sneaky guy tricked me again" Love you!!!
So... I few years ago, I did self-harm a few times, and then I got super into spirituality, and about a year ago, I remembered I did self-harm and ever since haven't been able to shake the guilt off... Constantly, every day, my mind would make me feel guilty about it and think about it all day. It's like my brain knew the thought that I could/ have cut myself scared me, so it kept bringing it up. My family had no idea I had ever done this, so my OCD told me I was a liar for not telling them about every day. I was afraid that they wouldn't love me anymore and send me to a mental hospital if I told them. About 2-3 months ago, I had gotten so fed up with having these thoughts every day and confessed to my mom what I had done, and her reaction was great. And I thought I'd never have thoughts about when I did self-harm again because I finally confessed. I was wrong. Even with people telling me that it's okay, I did that, I can't shake the guilt I had around this event, and even more so the fear/guilt around my own thoughts... My therapist and I talk about how the problem isn't the thoughts but what the OCD does to them. I try to create positive neural pathways, but that just makes me more stressed about it. There are things I'm supposed to tell myself when I feel negative, but I think I get that confused and tell myself those things every time I have thoughts about what I did. Which is feeding into a mental compulsion (replacing every "bad" thought with a "good" one. What works for me is (if I can) do nothing and have the thoughts... It's been hard to get better because I have had no idea what's been happening to me and felt like for the last year I was going crazy... I always thought OCD was cleaning stuff and physical compulsions . Everything that happened to me happened in my head. On the worst days when my OCD is really bad, every single time I was conscious and aware, I was thinking about the fact that I did self-harm. I would lie in bed all day trying to figure out my thoughts because I thought if I watched TV, I would be avoiding important things. I thought I had to figure out all my thoughts. I would ruminate, replay, and second-guess all. day. long. It was hard to do any of the things I loved; OCD took the joy out of it. It was hard to recognize it was OCD because I thought I had done something seriously bad and wrong, and that I must deserve these thoughts. I think the trick is that you feel like you must have positive thoughts, and the most distressing thing wasn't necessarily the fact that I did self-harm, but the fact that I couldn't stop thinking about it. I find the best thing you can do is just have all your thoughts in your head and try not to separate them from good and bad, if you can. It's nice to have people who understand!!!! More to come, about the journey. My favorite thing to say when I'm stuck is "that sly devil... OCD. Silly OCD is getting to me right now, but it won't last forever. That sneaky guy tricked me again." Love you!!!
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