- User type
- OCD Conqueror
- Date posted
- 4y
God, grant us the serenity to accept the things that we cannot change, the courage to change the things that we can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Amen.
A Christian advocate! Greg, have you ever struggled with moral scrupulosity OCD?
Yes I have! I still do. I am here to talk if you want!
@NOCD Advocate - Greg J. I’m dealing with the same! Thanks so much, Greg. Could I ask you some questions about how you did ERP? (I’m with a NOCD therapist and am applying ERP best I can but sometimes I get confused and discouraged.)
@Madison Yeah! It’s totally okay to get confused and discouraged. Everyday do something to get better. I’m here to talk
@NOCD Advocate - Greg J. Thanks so much!! 🤗 Okay so previously I was doing ERP on my obsessions (concerns that I’ve done something morally wrong or there’s something morally wrong with me) by accepting uncertainty about them and resisting my compulsion to refrain from moving on. It was SO hard, but it was working! For the first time in 1.5 years I was actually able to enjoy my life again, for days at a time! I was SO happy. Then my therapist told me to agree with the OCD fears, not accept uncertainty for all of them. So now instead of saying “ok maybe I did something wrong, I’ll never know”, I say “ok, yes, I DID do something horribly wrong” and agree with my OCD fear. And as a result, the anxiety isn’t eventually going down like it did before... I’m resisting my compulsions and knowing that the anxiety will spike, but because agreeing with the fear is so terrifying, it’s a lot harder and I’m a lot more anxious. The anxiety isn’t going down after the exposure like it did before. - Am I doing it right? From your experience, is this to be expected, and will I see improvement eventually? - What was your experience? Did you accept uncertainty or agree with the OCD fears? OOF, sorry that was so long Greg! Don’t feel pressured to respond, I know you’re not my therapist! 😅
@Madison Sounds like you're doing so well in therapy!! I'm nowhere near the place of accepting my scary thoughts as 'that might be true'. Even reading your comment made me worried! But I'm soo happy for you!! Basically your question is summed up recently by Patrick McGrath on YouTube. Search nocd. And then go to most recent videos, find a video named something like is getting ERP right a compulsion. Only about 3 minutes or less. And he answers it 😊 Sounds like you're making amazing progress keep it up!! God bless 😊👍
@ButterflyStar Wow! Thank you so much ButterflyStar! I’ll definitely find that video! 💖
Ah I needed to hear this! Thank you!
You got this!
You got this friend! He has made you and He makes no mistakes 😊
Oh my gosh a Christian advocate YAY!!!! Thank you!!!
No problem!
I've almost lost my faith. I've prayed to him hundreds of times for help
He’s with you! Can I try and help you?
@NOCD Advocate - Greg Jesionek If you could pray for me to be myself again, how I was earlier this year before HOCD. I just want a wife
@Fury Do you want to talk about it? Maybe I can help you get on a plan to beating ocd
@NOCD Advocate - Greg Jesionek Probably little you could do. I'm 16 and was planning on being a Marine. I can't get medication or therepy sadly or I give up something important.
@Fury I’m sorry :( there’s a lot of self help books out there!
@NOCD Advocate - Greg Jesionek Do you know any that may be helpful?
@Fury I read this one and it was good! Also listen to Ali Greymond on YouTube she’s great!
@NOCD Advocate - Greg Jesionek Thank you!
@Fury You got this!
Thank you so much for this :)
Evelyn you are an advocate wow!! So awesome! How did you get to be an advocate?😊👏👏👏👍
@ButterflyStar NOCD reached out to me and asked if I’d be interested :-) excited for the opportunity!
Really needed this
You got this!
Hey! I am a Christian too!! One of my biggest fears is that I no longer want to be a Christian. Whenever I see someone doing something biblically wrong I get a lot of intrusive thoughts that I want to be like them or that I am going to get made fun of for not being like them and that I will become like that. Its so hard. Evrytime I do something good or "younger" acting it happens too. I'm scared of who I may become. The worst part is I feel like I actually want to become like them and that I want to be a bad person. Any tips on this? I feel like I need to figure out the validity of these thoughts!!
That’s the problem. You do not need to figure out these thoughts. OCD attacks what’s most important to you. That’s why it choose your religion. I know it might be tough but try sitting with the thoughts and do not dissect them or push them away. Let them come in and eventually they will leave.
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