Hello, Everyone. My situation got worse when I got to know about The Secret book by Rhonda Bryne. The book mentions that positive thinking attracts positive things in life and negative attracts negative. Every OCD mind is filled with negative thoughts. It means that the negative thoughts will become true because we are keep thinking about them.

That isn’t true, ocd brains are just more active in the frontal cortex than in most brains, but once it is treated or if the negativity is self-treated than people with ocd are incredibly intelligent and creative people. Our brains actually operate differently than most “normal” ones. Which is pretty fascinating to me!

Tally Ho! I’m so sorry, but I hope you are aware that you will be all those positive things again; and that you still are, though it’s hard to discern through ocd. OCD is extremely treatable, very challenging and yet very rewarding because you will find yourself and relaxation in that when you are recovered :))))) good luck!!!

I have OCD and I am so scared about the sayings of this book. Thank you for the comment.

Again, labeling ones self as “mentally ill” enhanced the disorder to which you are referring to. Everyone has deep, deep points of struggle in their lives. Referring to people as “mentally ill” is alienating to them and puts out the idea that they are somehow innately defective.... but perhaps you need to come to this conclusion on your own as my explaining my views will only cause defense.... Blessings ???

Dianaaa- It seems to me that noPr0b was responding to the original poster, not you. And she was being positive and supportive by saying that putting the extra pressure on ourselves to “think positively” as suggested in The Secret, is unfair to us and that we don’t need to believe The Secret if it’s doing us harm. Is this right, noPr0b?

I was all of the things you mention before I got OCD. Now I’m not. OCD isn’t a good thing for me. Maybe in time I’ll come around but the last four years have been hell?

I meant it’s unfair for people to preach about how positive thinking leads to positive events because of people who struggle with this stuff! I worded it weird maybe/ i apologize for coming off rude or confusing.

Thanks for clarifying. And I agree.

It is difficult to discern when people do not tag names in their comments. And I was responding to her referring to “mentally ill” as being a negative and harmful label. No anger towards her, I am just expressing to her my views :) I think she gets that....

Makes sense. <3

Yes breeze, sorry dianaaa, I didn’t know referring to it as a mental illness was problematic... It’s how I identify my issues and it helps me feel that it’s just a disorder/illness that I can overcome that is seperate from me. Did not mean to come off as defining others as a whole.

noPr0b! No of course!! I was just expressing my exasperation for when others define us as mentally ill, or anyone for that matter. It kind of makes us sound like we are crazy or defective when we are often times more intelligent and creative than the average population! ? but I get you weren’t saying that! I just get tired when people actually mean it as a definition of us ?

Dianaaa you’re right, I get very frustrated too. the world needs to move past the stigmas already!!! ???

Well, the secret is very interesting, but I believe only goes so far. What we put out into the universe is what we get back but there's more to it. Reactions/response to things that happen to us/perception etc... it all differs from one person to another. Magical thinking is when you for instance think you are a horse, in reality you will never be a horse, you might be delusional and think that but it will still not make you one. What you think isn't always what you become etc... I can imagine every day that I will be a millionaire tommorow and play lotto, that doesn't mean it will happen. I believe in three things, coincidence, devine intervention and taking responsibility for ones own actions. The secret is a great read, but I think it's not always black and white.

@Dalisay, I really disagree and it would take too long to type it out, bc you are disproving your first post in your second post...so I would just say agree to disagree!

Or do you really believe life is so cut and dry that there is only mentally healthy or mentally poor... it's the a thermometer, it goes in levels, out mental health aren't black and white. Listen to or read Albert Ellis - How to stubbornly refuse to make yourself miserable. I just said I prefer to say I struggle with mental health here and there, not that I am mentally ill now and there's no hope for me etc. I been living with pure o ocd, emetaphobia, lyssophobia, cotards delusion, capgras delusions etc... you name it I have experienced it, since I was 7. So I know some things

@dalisay honey why are you spending so much time on this post?? We’ve all struggled just as deeply (we have all had some really, really, REALLY messed up things go on, which I won’t explain to you because I don’t believe in bragging or displaying suffering through pathological nomenclature) and we have all all come to different conclusions ???? your argument , in my opinion, is beginning to get a little off course, as such I’m not going to even defend my viewpoint because first of all, you aren’t even beginning to change my mind or prove me “wrong?” at all, from my perspective. And second of all, I do not have to prove my philosophy or outlook on life, or debate it with you, because I don’t even know you, and so I am not really concerned on the details of your opinion on my viewpoint. I hope you and everyone on here is doing well ❤️ I don’t think I’m going to respond to any more replies on this post ???

Yes I’m scared about this too I have pocd

I read the book and thought ot was awesome although it's true there is some loop holes, watch out for magical thinking.

Dalisay, What exactly do you mean?

That way of thinking is unfair to yourself and excludes people struggling with mental illness. Belief systems work for each individual... there are many religions people identify with while not identifying with others. This belief system of The Secret does not have to be true for you.

She’s not talking about people with OCD.

Tally ho! She said “every ocd mind is filled with negative thoughts. That is very black and white and not taking into account the genius, the positivity and the amazing cognitive ability that people with ocd have. Without my pure o ocd, I would never have been able to be as self-sufficient and successful and creative as I am. It is merely a part of me, the way my brain works differently makes me...me :)

Totally understand your view!! It’s hard for me to look outside my own lines, thank you for reminding me

Labeling yourself as mentally ill is acceptable but I'd rather say I have poor mental health as we all have different levels of mental health. Plus how will you for instance swim across a swimming pool if you never swam before? You won't haha so how will you have great mental health if you never learned how to train good mental health into your brain blob ;) guys read Mark Freeman, the mind workout.

I’ve heard from many people they feel defined with the word mental health bc it is possible for everyone, even schizophrenics which have much more severe hurtles to tackle in their brain. But how would you respond to the fact that you love your family, you help people who are in need, you do not wish harm upon people, you do not wish to keep everything good to yourself? That is excellent mental health, which people with ocd have and often overlook. That is really good mental health, knowing what hurts others and what doesn’t. So why would you say you have “poor mental health” if you know things that most people don’t? Probably because you are focusing on your ocd being the determiner of mental health. It is a point of struggle, but so is anger, intolerance, and self pity. Yet somehow we think that we are mentally unhealthy and people who are narcissistic and mean and uncaring are not........ interesting ?

@dalisay ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

No not at all, people who are narcissistic definitly struggle with poor mental health and poor emotional intelligence. Look, knowing what to do and don't do towards other people is part of the human condition... what we learn from childhood our environment etc it's what we do with these experiences that gives poor or good mental health. Everyone struggles with mental health in some way, it's actually quite normal. Being a good person towards other people or being a 'bad' person towards people doesn't have much to do with mental health, that has to do with personality traits and character. Poor mental health would be if you struggle with every day life because of whatever problem you are facing instead of people who might have better coping mechanisms or weren't exposed to trauma etc that usually is the start of poor mental health or people who weren't exposed to certain environments. No one is perfect but some people cope in other ways basically... so they are probably seen as having better mental health. Ofcourse those of us with ocd struggle and we see things differently, we are sensitive souls, and I embrace my ocd no matter how difficult it can be, as it does have a positive side aswell. But that does'nt mean there aren't people out in the world who has the same sensitivities we have, there are, they just don't develop mental health problems because of it. They manage differently. We aren't superior because we have ocd, we are special just like anyone else. We can't put ourselves in a box, we are just all part of the human condition.

Haha can you point out the disagreement? I just explained it further. I think I have enough experience in psycology and philosophy etc to have made a clear and understandable statement. If you like you can try prove me otherwise.

First of all, Guys. I am He not She.

@dianaaa I didn't want to change anyone's viewpoint. Not everyone can be me.