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Any physical contact that's unwanted and unwarranted can be classified as harassment.
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I see. Ty very much for your response.
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In 2000's it'd only have been considered as "playing around" bc girls and boys always were poked or grabbed. Even boys were grabbed I don't know if you know this game in the Usa but in Europe for exemple there was a game like - you come from behind the dude, you seize his "intimate part" and ask him to whizzle and only if he does so you let him go (of course the dude couldn't whizzle in this situation its impossible lmao), the dude trapped did the same thing a few hours later to the guy who trapped him before. I mean I wouldn't be as firm as the man up above my post. But it is also true that time has changed and we certainly have a different view of what is harassing or not. Let me get this clear I'm not saying the man you're referencing to would be right to make you feel unconfortable each time he comes accross you, but I think for your own sake that you shouldn't be feeling like you were abused because you would create a traumatism to yourself for something which as it sounds to me, were at first "playing around". Next time be firmer with him, don't laugh bc you could give him the impression that it's fine for you to be "played around". If you are firmer and he continues on grabbing and poking, then it is harassment.
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Hi! I don’t think playing around is the right way to say this situation. He did it to multiple girls and at one point when my friend sat in his place he was doing it to the other girl and me and my friend were talking about it and right after he said he heard everything, but he didn’t say anything else. He definetly wasn’t a good guy, especially after being confronted and offering a measly stick of gum as reparations. I don’t interact with him at all so I can’t be firmer with him, and even if I did I still wouldn’t be able to say anything bc I freeze. I understand the playing around aspect, but ik this guy isn’t a good guy.
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@Anonymous456 The playing around isn't my expression lmao, it was yours 😅 I just took it back in my text because it's a generic way to talk about something I can't judge bc I wasn't there. Now your second post is way more affirmative than the first one even though you explained well that you weren't at your ease there's a big difference between not being at our ease in a childish game (I even got poked by girls was I harassed or was it a teenage game I think about the second option) and being bullied or harassed. What I mean is that only you know the event and you said above that a part of your own friends didn't think it was harassing. I would definitely diagnose the problem with the friends who got there rather than here with people who affirm you that it was a sexual assault so that they didn't see anything about what happened. Again I'm not taking the guy side, it is just that there's a big difference between "playing around" and harassing or sexually assault someone. From what people above or below me said, it means that the guy deserves to be sued and can end up in jail for a dangerous behavior toward females, it is another level that is only what I wanna emphasize here.
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@Morpheus 75 Ah I apologize I didn’t realized I used the phrase as well so forgive me.
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So funny how a subject discussed with her and her friends, who themselves said to her at last that it wasn't harassment (and they're were THERE unlike you) end up having someone like you *asking to disregard* a simple point of view of the whole situation - which btw is what was asked from her at first wasn't it? 😑 From all I know she didn't write "I WAS sexually assaulted, she did write" what do you guys think about this situation me and my friends are talking about - some of them think it was harassment, and some of them think it WASN'T). We weren't there, her friends were there, and they themselves shared my point of view at last, period. Keep it cool please, and let people giving their point of view without being judgmental, that's the beauty and the essence of this app.
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"Please reach out and disregard this person's comments" is another way to say "Don't listen to this dumb", And WTF it means "I don't think grown men should be advising underage girls" all of your sentences are so weird you say mean stuff without saying them anyway, I got sexually abused when I was a child and I've been living with OCD for 27 years bc of it so I fucking know more how it is to be destroyed by sexual abuse than you could ever imagine in your entire life. There's a huge difference between giving your point of view and being judgmental toward me, and influence someone asserting things so that you weren't there (again, even her friends were confused about whether it was harassment or not).
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