If I've tried erp and other forms of therapy where do I go next?

Hmm🤔 What did you try other than ERP?

Lots of things you could try..🤔 Thought field therapy.. Acupuncture (helped unclog my thoughts a little).. maybe try a gluten free diet? (they say you need to be on it for about two weeks before deciding if it works!) Seems to have helped many! Those are some suggestions at least :)

If it’s not working, then you need a better therapist because there is probably some mental compulsion you are over looking such as rumination

Ah yes. My brain begs me to continue to obsess and do compulsions as well. You have to actively CHOOSE that you are not going to. It’s an active choice everyday. It’s really fucking hard at first but it gets easier with practice

@Maybe,MaybeNot I get this but I think it's me that's saying this automatically now and I don't know how to go against it. I'm trying to react different ly but there's no other way the only way Is if I control myself but not react differently

@J101 I hear what you’re saying, and you are right, it is a part of us. We refer to the OCD or the brain as a separate part of us because it helps us put into words our experience, but the ocd is a part of us right now and we are conflicted. We have a thought in our mind that we need to do compulsions, and another thought in our mind that we want to get better and sit through them. We have to choose not to listen to the first thought. Even if it comes automatically and you need to convince yourself or physically tell yourself out loud that you want to sit through it. I know it’s extremely hard but it’s the only way.

@Maybe,MaybeNot It's become automatic in the sense I've got the thoughts coming up auto matically now whereas before I use to fight the thoughts they come up automatically now I've tried many ways to interfere in this process. The simple answer is to stop however for some reason I'm unable to. I reckon this is due to the way I've trained my mind over years of bad mental training . Undoing this is unfortunately not coming simple the reactions are happening automatically I cannot even stubbornly refuse yo do them which us so frustrating

@J101 I would expect the brain to at least let me go about what I'm doing with the thoughts there in the background even with this I've already reacted. Maybe maybe not I'm gratefull for your advice however I'm just getting no where. I know I've created a mind field in my head over the years but my brain us not allowing me to undo this even to go against this

@J101 I still say keep practicing, we are changing neural pathways which is really hard work. Are you taking meds? There are also intensive programs you can do.

@Maybe,MaybeNot I'm taking meds yes. I can't even get to the stage to do exposures. I am aWare I've trained my mind the way it is but I'm unable to respond differently I can't say why before I even try to respond differently I've already reacted

@J101 Yes you have already reacted, but you can choose to stop reacting. It’s never too late. Also I want you to check out this article. https://drmichaeljgreenberg.com/how-to-stop-ruminating/ You may want to look into a med increase or change. And if you are really struggling that much, it would probably be worth it to start an intensive program.