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You’re a good guy. You deserve to be happy. Just think about what you would do if you loved yourself. If it’s work on the relationship then do. If it’s move on, then do, and do so out of love for yourself. There is no right or wrong, and it doesn’t matter how you got here. All that matters is what you do now.
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Thank you for saying this to me. I really appreciate it. I am scared and just so defeated and I truly do my best to carry myself with integrity. I am not perfect but I have always wanted what is best for my wife. The OCD about inappropriate relationships really gets me. Like I can’t figure out if I did or didn’t like an OCD mind tries to do. The maybe kills me and the fact that if I don’t acquiesce to the opinion that I did, than I am wrong and not being honest etc… I had a very difficult time posting this because I feel like I am betraying her even now talking about this stuff.
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Hi @eoid! Thank you for responding. I appreciate your understanding and am definitely interested in what your experience is regarding “inappropriate” relationships. What is happening with you and your bf?
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Let's start form this one, that is the most triggering for me!! I want to start by saying that my bf grew up among women and he is really sensitive. He is really able to "read" female; and making them feeling understand, and important. And that are all good qualities, and I'm proud of him. The problem, is that he keeps having what I consider inappropriate relationships with all his female friends! (Not all, only with the attractive ones). But for him, he isn't doing nothing wrong, it is just his way to talk with females friends, that is normal, and not flerting. I tell you what happens, that I consider an inappropriate relationship. There is no phisical cheating. He focus all his attentions to them: he follow her with his eyes all night, he is always ready to help her, even if she didn't ask, he makes her feel deeply understanded, he cheers for her every things she do (for example like every time she throw a ball in bowling), he explains her how to do things.. etc. He gives to her all those super attentions; for all the time. Now. I already have tons of doubts (ROCD!)+ my love language is quality time and attention giving. (=what means the most for me that makes me feel loved is spending happy and funny time togheter. I give attentions to say I love you!). You will understand how all the attentions that he gives to others female while we are out with friends, hurt me deeply! I don't even think it is about jealousy. I consider myself not jealous at all. But by doing like that, it is like if he is saying to me "I want you less than all the other females! All the other girls are more important than you for me! I don't really want you, you are less intresing than all the others girls.". This destroy me every time. The last time that happened, I cried for like a day, and I was soo close to left him. Furthermore, seeing that he creates with every girl this deep complicity, makes me feels so ordinary, unspecial, one of others when at first I thought I was the only one! I came to the conclusion (after a reallylong time), that i'm not jealous about the others, I'm just sad and disappointed because by doing like this, he is telling me that I'm no one for him, I'm not important. For him; it is normal. It is his usual way to talk/ be around females friends. He assure me that he doesn't do that because he is intrested in having something more than friendship, or because he would like to cheat. He thinks "I spent already a lot of time with you, I see you (me) really often, now that I'm with my friends it is normal that I gives more attentions to them! You know that I get along better with females!". He said that what he did doesn't means nothing that I feel, he just do this because it is his personality! I talked about this with my psychologist. She said to me that for her; there aren't actually bed intentions in his behaviour. He do this, because he want "the medal", he likes how being the guy that males the girl understanded makes him feel. But he wouldn't cheat or anything else. But would that being a problem for us; if we aren't togheter in a relationship? No! That means it isn't only a mine or his problem! In both cases the solution would be: -If he's wrong, he has to change his behaviour, because someone different that isn't him anymore. -if I'm wrong, I have to keep suffer and being hurt trying to accepting his behaviour. Now you will see by yourself that both the sutions up here are wrong!! Plus, we could fight about this for days, saying that I am wrong, or he is the one doing something wrong. - he is flerting with other girls, he is wrong. - she is "to jealous, too needy" she ask for too much attentions! Wich one is Wright? Both and no one at the same time! We are both right and wrong at the same time. Equally. The only way to keep going and find a solution is finding a compromise. But for that we must both want to change a little for the other: - I am right by wanting more attentions only for me, but I'm wrong about him doing it for flert with others -he is right by not wanting to change his personality but is wrong about not seeing the importance of giving super attnetions, considering them "just talking", because for me means the world. So the solution have to be 2 faced! We try to put a line in the middle! - i try to not take it personal, when he give attentions to others girls - he try to give them less attentions, or at least not focusing only on girls. We are still working on finding this line. I'm really scared of being hurt again, I admit. The last time I was destroyed. We have Been in crisis since this September, because of rocd. But I always had hope and faith that things will improve (and they did! I was really depressed and incapable of feeling emotions for him, now I gained them back!) But after the last time that he did this, I completely lost hope and trust for him. I was exhausted, but he called me, we talked a lot and he showed me that we can resolve that. This, was the thing that made me not broke up with him... but I passed a week by not wanting to answer to him, being really distant; angry, full of bad emotions! After that we started to see again; at first for a film, than for Snowboarding, than another film... I was incapable of touching him. I was reluctant and distant. I wasn't exited anymore by the idea of spending time with him. We also have huge fights, and we arrived so close to broke up. But he started to give me more and more attentions, he showed me that he was intrested. At first this felt like it was too late. But it wasn't! Day after day things has get better, now I trust him again (not 100% to be honest, but surely more than some weeks ago!). My desire of intimacy is coming back! And we are not fighting from 2 weeks!! Big win haha! But all of that happened after only one times we went out with his friends. Only a day, caused all of this. It was and still is really hard. The fun thing is, that when we are alone, or with male friends, we get along super well!
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@eoid Sorry for the long message, and also for the bad English, I'm Italian and I try my best!
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@eoid Hey @eoid I totally understand everything you are saying. Your English is great. You have really brought out some interesting context to male and female relationships and interactions. I really appreciate you sharing and for being honest about your ROCD and your insights into your relationship. I too grew up and am currently still married to strong women. I feel very strongly about equality and female empowerment. I can relate to your situation because it is quite similar to mine in the inappropriate relationship aspect. I too get along with women very well but I am not interested in crossing a boundary between intimacy and being plutonic. Perhaps there is a difference between how people communicate and how other people interpret that communication through body language, facial expressions, manorisms, and the content of the talking component. I like what you said about feeling special and that you are with him and he is with you. I get that and think that your bf should definitely put you above all other female relationships. I also think that from what you said that he understands why you feel the way you do is huge. I hope he makes some changes there. It is definitely cool that you are cool with him having female friends. Not everyone would be. It aldo sounds like you are trying to grow emotionally and mentally through this relationship. You will become more self assured and your emotional intelligence will become more acute. You will understand yourself better. I really appreciate you sharing and for some input from my post. Write more if you feel like it tomorrow. Have a good night.
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@eoid I reread your post snd it jumped out at me your definition of what an inappropriate relationship is. You consider an inappropriate relationship physical cheating? That is what I think or no secret emails, texts, meet ups… that type of thing. The way my wife sees this is that I dishonored her and betrayed her and that is a huge factor in why we are divorcing.
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@MikeOH2LA Nooo i consider an inappropriate relationship all the "super" attentions focused on one another girl!! All the thing that i wrote down that he actually does! Cheating would be phisical! The inappropriate relationships, would be creating too much and deep complicity with others woman! Making them feeling loved and understand, in a way that is more than what a friend should do!
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@eoid I understand. I apologize for misunderstanding. So you view my situation as being inappropriate relationships from what I described?
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@eoid And you feel that your bf does that with many women? What does he say about that?
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I'm really really sorry for how things is going for you! I can understand you really well and I know how hard can be... but I can understand even more your wife! I used (I hate myself for that, but a lot of time I do this again) to think and act exactly like her! Always remember. In a couple, for problems like that; no one is wrong. It is a 50-50 thing! If you want to solve this (and it's possible) you have to both admit that you are 50% wrong and understand the 50%rightness of the other! Than you have to find a compromise! If you want an opinion, or a my advice, I'm here for you! Especially on the "inappropriate relationship" I understand really really well🙄 I have a problem like that with my bf; we are getting a little better now... if you want I can share this experience too! I hope things gets better!
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Yes please share. Also see my post to you below that I didn’t share directly to you.
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Hi! I will answer everything! I'm taking some times because some of the things here still trigger me or get me a little emotional! But hey free erp!! hahah give me some minutes!
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Thats cool. Take your time if you feel like it. No rush at all and certainly no pressure.
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At this one, I will answer tomorrow! Good night!
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You seem to be very self reflective and to me that doesn’t make you a narcissist, chin up man, you don’t seem like a bad guy
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Hey thank you! That is super nice of you to say that. I appreciate you reading my post and for being encouraging.
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- 25w
It hasn’t even been a week since my boyfriend broke up with me because of my OCD and depression cocktail. He said that the breakup wasn’t out of him not loving me anymore, but because he and his family had already dealt with very strong mental health issues in the past and that a) he couldn’t bear seeing me hurting all of the time and b) he wasn’t sure that he wanted to be “my nurse”. Then he said that I shouldn’t blame myself because depression and OCD are never anyone’s fault. I’ve tried to be very understanding: I do believe one has a right to decide what one wants in their partner. He doesn’t want a partner with mental health issues, I can understand that. I can also understand that these five months since my OCD made itself known have been very hard on him. But, I also feel so betrayed. He used to nitpick the word “love” so much and reflect on what it actually meant to love. He said loving someone was choosing to stay with them during the good times and the bad. This is absolutely the worst bad time in my entire life. And he said, and also said it to my mother, that he would stick with me through it all. Now five months later, he’s changed his mind. I don’t get how he can say he still loves me and abandon me when I most need love and support. If it’s not my fault like he says, why leave me? He said he still wants to be in my life—at a safe distance, where he can’t see all the ugly parts of what OCD and depression can do to a person. All of this makes me feel as if I wasn’t worth the effort of dealing with everything. Then that’s not love is it? I also feel very lonely as the only people that know about my OCD were him and my parents. He made himself into one of my biggest pillars of support, and shaped our lives so that he could always be with me. So we’re in the same classes, and although we share friends I’ve always felt that they entertained me because I was his girlfriend. As for my closer friends, I’ve felt that I was drifting apart from them and although I’ve furtively mentioned my problems with OCD to them, they either don’t care to ask or aren’t really sure how to talk to me. I feel so alone. And now my “number one supporter” has left, and it angers me very much. Especially because I’ve been the one to calm him down and give him hugs and explained what topics we saw in the class he missed the day after we broke up. I’m the one that convinced him to eat three cookies for dinner because he didn’t want to eat. And I’m the one that had to tell him that friends don’t wish each other a great night every night, like we used to do. It seemed like he wanted things to stay the same but without the relationship part of kissing and dealing with my panic attacks. It feels it’s kind of unfair because he’s not without issues and I didn’t judge him once and always tried to be there for him, and the single biggest issue I have ever had was too much for him. The vengeful part of me wants him to hurt as much as he hurt me. I hope he understands his decision has consequences and that he can’t be with me in the same way he was— especially now that I know that he leaves at my most critical, vulnerable moments. I’m writing this while mad. But I know later I’ll feel sad and more understanding and want to be friends with him again. And then I’ll get mad again. And so on. I know this is just a really tough situation however you look at it. But I’m still overwhelmed by the thought that if OCD had never struck, we might still be together. I also deserve some love and support 😔 Thank you if you read all the way till here. I’m sorry if it was a long read, but I’m very thankful. Nowadays it feels like NOCD is one of my remaining sources of support. I’m very grateful for everyone on here, I hope all of you have a great day and that it’s a victory against this accursed mental disorder
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- 24w
I've been in this relationship for 1.5 yrs on and off and what I like about her is She's smart, beautiful, cleans, she says she loves me, she cooks for me. But what I noticed about this person from the beginning is that she is negative about her past, such as getting her things stolen, going to mental hospitals back to back and people did her wrong. And I was there to be there for her such as when she is in pain, I take her to doctors, or whatever I can do to make her feel better. But I've noticed throughout the relationship that she checks on my phone and checks if im talking to someone. And always mixes up with her memory thinking I cheating on her on the relationship.. honestly her memory is not clear. Most of the time she would ask me am I talking to a girl or when I do uber do I casual talk to them, and the conversation I have is just about, How's the neighborhood here? The food around here. About God.. Nothing flirtatious what's so ever. But she always give me a conversation about other women. 2x I spoke to her about my ocd. (1st time I broke up with her because she was angry at me, and I can understand and so I broke it off) One was sexual thoughts during sex 2nd time (is an ex theme) Because I know she hates these subjects so I avoid it. This is why I tell myself don't have these thoughts, the more I don't want them, it appears in my awareness and it causes me emotional distress. I've told her about it (it could be a compulsion) she wasn't happy and seemed mad about it. So I just feel like just call it quits... because I've tried my very best to get rid of these thoughts and don't want to give her pain. I can understand why she is angry and that she loves me ( she reaches out and wants to work things out ) But what I truly do not like is when she gets mad when there are no problems such as that uber issue, she would say ok if you do that I'll talk to guys then, (in my head, what do you mean? In what way? I wasn't flirtatious or anything) What I believe is how we grew up and raised different. Throughout the relationship, when we argue (mostly about women, about her issues like who are you texting is it a girl? She would vent all the time about how she hates her workplace and jumps from job to job) My beliefs if we love each other, we should encourage each other to grow. there is no reason to opposing us from growing - to be angry, jealous, arguments etc. I do believe in God. That is why most of the time I feel like she is always talking about the past mistakes - she talked down on me about being with a prostitute - 7 yrs ago (way before this relationship started). She curses alot.. And for all these reasons I should quit the relationship. But she has the nerve to say I am unstable and that she is tired of hearing I keep kicking her out the house (it didn't happen, but she doesn't realize my needs - as in why aren't we growing from this area? - as in why are you always mad at people from work? Or why do you get annoyed all the time? I give her advice in these areas but she knows im tired of hearing about this. So she talks to her family about it. But i realized she wanted me to care for her... i do but i also do tough love... we cant just vent 24/7.) And when I told her about my ocd and broken up due to the fact of having sexual images ( I can't control it) She moved to TX and I visited her a couple times. She said she is suffering without me. And so i took her back. She don't like to talk about exes so the theme ex stuck in my head and I wanted to get rid of it. That's what cause the second breakup. I confessed to her about my problems of why the breakup happened and it seemed like she couldn't accept it , she does not understand ocd and she said she don't care. I blocked her and she was going to send me a message saying she will be there for me and love me alot and wants to grow together. But I am still resentful for what happened. Til this day I'm still afraid of her and my thoughts whenever I'm around her. -- Now she wants to marry me.. but I'm unsure because it seems forceful and that she doesn't understand what I'm going through. Even when we communicate I feel she will judge me for my ocd (even when i look for help) and I feel resentful because I feel like I did nothing wrong. There is no other woman involved, no cheating. It's just my ocd and she keeps saying I think of my ex all the time. I am not trying to hold on to flaws but thinking back of her patterns haunts me. I love her. We have seperated for months and she said she is having problems with the landlord.. So it tells me something why is she having problems with other people alot?? Whenever she's around my ocd flares up, when she's not around I feel ease but in a week, I would feel like I miss her and want to be back with her again... it's really confusing -- Today, I did ERP and the thought appeared less but she wants to be back with me and move in with me. And also marry me. But today I've been thinking of her flaws (angry, suspect me alot if there is another woman, use petty things when there arent any real issue.. the real issue is she is annoyed all the time). We say we love each other. I do love her. Sometimes I want to quit permanently, sometimes I don't. I'm confused, is this OCD? I don't know if I should stay with her. Thanks for reading my post. Any advice is appreciated. I'll also message this to my therapist. I dont feel distressed about breaking up, but can these thoughts lead you to breaking up? ( I think I answered my own question but need to know)
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- 20w
Hello everyone, I'm writing this because I've been struggling heavily for the past two months. I went through a breakup that I won't go into vast detail about. However, it was very abrupt with little "closure" or reasoning. It was simply based off of intuition from the other person, which is completely valid - he also said I didn't do anything wrong. This uncertainty already sounds like an OCD nightmare, which is why I'm sharing my story. There was no incompatibility, unshared values, patterns. Probably just no communication on his end towards when he started having this feeling. I thought this person was MY person, and it certainly was heavily reciprocated and initiated by him. He is also my coworker, and someone I went into a relationship with massive intentions, the slow burn and serendipity of it was special to me. This connection was a safe space and I put all my trust into him, he was my rock romantically and when things were good, he really built that trust up with me and I never wanted to let it go. I also thought I was a good partner, and tried my best. Of course I still had my family/friends, school, apartment life, career. I really felt like everything in my life had lined up and this relationship was the cherry on top for a while. Obviously we both made mistakes and there was ups and downs, but I never once questioned my love for him or thought he might suddenly leave. Which is something that can happen to anyone. After our breakup, I felt completely lost, betrayed, blindsided.....and to make matters worse, I blame myself for everything and my OCD immediately went into max gear. The uncertainty of the entire situation was so scary to me, all I could say or think was that I was scared. And I wasn't ready to face the pain that was about to come, not to mention the OCD already creeping up into full panic mode, especially without a person I considered a huge support system. OCD looks for clarity - not just me as a human looking for clarity. It felt like there was layers and layers of complexity for me that I couldn't face, if that makes sense. Unfortunately, I made a horrible mistake and attempted S. After going through an extremely vulnerable situation at the hospital, I went through inpatient and found it extremely difficult to accept my old life was simply gone, out of thin air. After I came out, I couldn't even be in my own apartment. I didn't feel safe, in a place I worked hard to get and felt "independent" in. Independence was one of my biggest personal values, now I feel anxiously attached. I also didn't feel safe at work, which was once a good distraction for me and something I also worked hard towards, I can't quit. And not to mention, the loss of an important relationship. I sought support from my family, who has been so unbelievably supportive and I also started to try to figure out what I was going to do. It was extremely hard trying to find an Intensive Outpatient Program that would work with my schedule, and also I was set to start my new semester in school again soon. I ended up setting up therapy with NO OCD twice a week. My therapist has been EXTREMELY helpful, and I honestly did not think that finding someone specialized in OCD would be so life changing. Anyway after everything that happened, I'm still struggling with feeling like a BAD person. It's my reoccurring theme. I thought that I was somehow a manipulator because of my attempt. I know I reacted poorly, but I'm also learning to give myself grace for the pure pain anyone would feel and know that it was an isolated incident (never talked about it before, especially not in relationship). I also try to remind myself that my situation is unique and only I know the pain. I also think back again and again, to every little thing I could have done wrong and it hurts me. I think about isolated mistakes or things I said, and think that's the reason why my whole relationship failed. I take the blame for everything. And it all ties back to me being a bad person. It feels like it's never ending. Sometimes I feel good, but it's still really hard to stop the cycle for me. I think about every little thing. I honestly couldn't even slightly comprehend how someone can vastly change their behavior - it felt like he truly died. That person who I got into a relationship, was no longer here. Interpreting his behavior, actions and words has been difficult, not to mention my own - but It's easier for me as I continue to give myself grace knowing that I did what I could within the relationship with the information I had. I also try to remind myself that I took a lot of accountability, and would have listened if things were brought up. The same mistakes I made, were not the same he made - but OCD keeps trying to make me overly reflect on myself only, if that makes sense. Taking OCD away completely - interpreting that is already complex. Adding OCD, it's horrible...my brain keep trying to find certainty in SOMETHING, anything. So little things come to my head, and suddenly I'm a bad person. Suddenly, he's reached happiness and I lost him because....I'm a bad person. Suddenly I was too needy, too much, showed my OCD, and he thought I was a bad person. It's honestly exhausting. I've never hid my OCD, but I did feel like I was actively working on it and also trying to be a good partner, sister, daughter, friend. I was content, and I wasn't expecting this or maybe I would have been more prepared, I've had breakups before with longer relationships. It's hard to know how OCD just came into FULL gear after this hardship, it's hard to know that - although I was working on it - I felt content and wasn't experiencing symptoms regularly. Suddenly, I was in full panic mode all the time. It's made me question my entire reality, I hope this makes sense. I know the levels of this were traumatic, and I am doing A LOT better just two months in. I'm looking forward to more progress and hope that I can accept uncertainty more and more. Regardless of how I felt, he can suddenly leave and without reason. And I'm learning that not everything is my fault, and that I have so many good things in my life I should be grateful for. Although when I came out of the hospital everything was flipped upside down, I still have a job....an apartment and family/friends and school, not to mention the work I need to do on myself and OCD. Maybe one aspect of my life (relationship), is gone - but everything else is still there. It's hard, I've been staying with my mom and this weekend I'm going back to my apartment to face my loneliness. With the help of my therapist, I'm learning to be uncomfortable in my apartment. I think this experience has COMPLETELY broken me as a person, but because of it I was able to face my OCD head on in a way I've NEVER had to do before. I could have probably kept it symptom free for the most part, but this has challenged me in a way I never thought possible - almost as if - I get through this, I might be able to defeat it. And also understand pain on such a deep level, that I can be there for my family, friends, etc in a new way I never thought possible. I probably forgot to include a lot of stuff, but lets just accept that it's extremely complex to explain - and all I know is that I'm not a bad person because OCD says so.....separating the relationship from the attempt. In the relationship, I tried my absolute best and we both made mistakes. In the attempt, I can acknowledge my pain and move forward from it in a non judgmental and graceful way. Even though I delt with extreme guilt for putting my family through something they couldn't understand and guilt for myself and for everyone involved, even though I know it's okay.
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