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- 3y
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- 3y
13 years is along time for you to go through this I am extremely sorry, I’ve been having hocd for just the bast two months and I completely undestand what you mean about missing being able to wake up refreshed. I know you say this is the moment you finally just admit to yourself that you are a homosexual man but if this has been going on for such a long span of time do you really think it’s true that you are gay? I mean what I’m trying to say is yes it’s difficult for people to come out im aware of that but people who are gay find pleasure in homosexual thoughts and you clearly sound distressed by all of this you have been going through. I just think that when ocd has been there for so long it convinces you to believe your thoughts, mines only been here for about 2 months and some days my mind convinces me I am gay even though I know I’m straight and I I have a boyfriend who I love dearly. it’s a really hard battle to go through tbh I sit here sometimes wondering why does ocd have to be a thing it’s so evil or why do I have to have this illness. I want my life back and I’m sure you do too for you and your son , I think because of the amount of people I’ve seen talk about ERP (especially for the type of ocd you and I have ) that you should maybe try it again? I know you said it caused you distress but overtime I’ve heard that the pain goes away that you have attached to the intrusive thoughts because your mind is so bored of them. I think next month I’m going to try it too, because like you I miss just being able to enjoy life without having to think about whether I’m gay every five seconds I wish you all the best I’m sorry if anything doesn’t make sense.
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- Date posted
- 3y
Im (25 F) am also going through this. I have a hard time because there are moment where I question whether I am actually attracted to men and if I do love my boyfriend. There are times when I try to analyze my feelings for him and if they are true. I worry that I’m gay and actually into women. My thoughts used to disgust me a lot and distress me but with some ERP it was getting better, it was like they were there but didn’t have to mean anything in that moment. Now though, I’m nervous that the thoughts not making me nervous mean something and that they are not going completely away for a reason and because what if it’s bc Im actually gay. I feel like I can’t be authentic and be who I want to be. I just want to be happy and in love with my boyfriend, but I worry that it’s internalized homophobia. Ugh so many worries which lead to thoughts. I feel you both on the not being able to wake up refreshed. How do you focus on your relationship to enjoy it and do you also have these doubts?
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- 3y
@Anonymous Hi I have replied to your comment hope you can see it on this thread somewhere it’s very long though, my apologies if the length is any inconvenience x
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- Date posted
- 3y
@Ope @graciepops17 Thanks for sharing! Do y’all ever start to analyze the past? Right now I’m trying to think back to a moment and I was thinking that in this one situation I must have had the “am I attracted to her” thought but when I put the timeline together, I hadn’t had the initial trigger moment that has led me to question all of this. So I wonder, could I have been truly questioning my sexuality and had attractions to girls before? Or is my timeline off and I think I had those thoughts then just bc I’ve had these thoughts so much I think they must have been everywhere? Like Im worried Im remembering this wrongly.. ugh idk Could I have had these thoughts and them not be real like no significance before it became an ocd thing. Does that make sense?
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- 3y
I think that just because you have had the thoughts so much your timeline is definetly off, sometimes ocd causes like false memories and situations too so it also could be that.
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- 3y
It’s horrible isn’t it I’m really sorry you are going through this I’m 16 f and although I’m only young I’ve been with my boyfriend for 2 years and he’s my entire world and we have never had any problems. I understand what you mean completely since my hocd started I also started getting intrusive thoughts like do I even love him if this is going on, then I realised I also think I have rocd. I tried twice to split up with him sadly, because my mind was telling me not only that I am gay but also that I do not love my best friend honestly heart breaking. Both times I tried to end it he said no🤣 he understands what I’m going through (not completely) but enough to know I do love him. He is so confident in my love for him and I know he’s right because I do love him. This ocd is horrible both hocd and rocd because hocd just makes you feel like someone has taken away your identity, that’s what it feels like for me anyway. I have always identified as a straight female, I’ve always been attracted to boys my entire life I I often here coming out story’s were they say there were signs they were gay there whole life and then I sit there to try look for signs to see if I am gay or not. I’ve never found any signs that I am from my past, but even if you ever do that can also just be ocd doubting your thoughts. Anyway I don’t know what your HOCD is like personally but for me whenever I look in the mirror my head tells me I’m gay, every action I do, the way I sit the way I talk sometimes, when I’m putting on makeup which is something I used to love to do my mind goes ‘ you are only doing this to make yourself look more straight’ even though I know I’m straight it’s crazy. And when I see a woman that’s pretty I’ve always been able to acknowledge when another female is attractive but since this, if I find another girl attractive my mind instantly says things like ‘That’s means you are gay’ ‘ you must be gay if you look at another girl and think she is pretty’ ‘ you need to come out because straight people do not go through this’ I also often find myself looking at girls to see if I’m attracted to them the same way as men, well my boyfriend. And then I get mental images but these just really disturb me and make me feel sick. Just to clarify the thought of two women together doesn’t make me feel sick, I’m not homophobic at all it’s just the thought of me personally with a woman I don’t like it it doesn’t feel right. When hocd started after two weeks it was so difficult that I said to my boyfriend I think I’m bisexual and this is me telling you, and he was like okay that’s fine. That gave me relief for about an hour because I thought yay I’ve finally found my ‘true’ self I’m a bisexual woman with a man that’s okay all these thoughts will end now. But then an hour later I just felt sick, I knew I was just lying to myself to please the thoughts and it just didn’t feel right. If it felt right the thought of me with another girl wouldn’t make me feel ill. ( apologies I’m writing a lot but I just want you to know you are not alone) And ROCD is horrible too, I wish I could take all ocd away from every sufferer in the world but I just feel like rocd is really heartbreaking. For your brain to tell you you don’t love people that you KNOW you do is just disgusting. I can’t tell you the amount of times I have wished I could just go back to normal and for this to all go away, there were days just only last week were I was convinced that I do not love anyone in my life at all and that’s that. we think cause the thoughts are always there, that it means they are true. They are not. This is really hard and I know it is for you too, just know your thoughts are not reality. I always think of it like this when I’m with my boyfriend and for the 30 seconds I finally don’t have a single intrusive thought about whether I love him or if I’m gay, all I feel is love and warm inside and just pure happiness like it used to be before my ocd began. I’m sure that’s how you feel with yours too when your brain isn’t torturing you. So that just proves your thoughts aren’t true, that’s what gives me hope is I rneber the moments were I wasn’t worrying and how good it feels that what makes me want to get better too If you have any more questions please ask me, I know that was so long to read but I just don’t want you to feel Alone, even before ocd I often felt depressed for about a year or two still don’t know why, but this ocd is a new pain I’ve never felt and I feel so much sympathy towards anyone going through it in the world it’s really not talked about enough all my love grace x
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- 3y
@Ope Totally get what you mean!! I remember seeing magic Mike vids and thinking I just don’t understand the hype like they are abit too muscular for me aha. I know what you mean about womens bodies though, I’ve always thought other womens bodies are pretty not my own because you know as humans we like to be mean to ourselves but ever since this ocd has begun if I think a woman is pretty on say Instagram or TikTok I panic and the thoughts start and then I’m like if you think they are pretty you are gay and also like you I then think you are just in denial just come out already. But then As I’ve said I couldn’t imagine and wouldn’t want to be with a woman like that and I just think the fact that this distresses us just proves we aren’t in denial and this really is just ocd doubting our every action. Which can I just add is so tiring someone please make a cure ahah
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- Date posted
- 3y
Thanks so much for sharing! I can relate to everything you said. I definitely know I have HOCD and ROCD and I’ve been going through erp to help with sitting with uncertainty. It’s just so hard when the thoughts come and I’m not able to just say “maybe, maybe not” and instead I try to analyze everything. When I’m in this state it always makes me question if those moments where I felt happy or in love or care for my boyfriend even were real. Do you get what I mean? And it’s hard to come out of that.
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- 3y
@Ope I was just thinking this. My brain always throws this at me like you just not be into men bc you don’t go crazy over this. I am into men and I feel attracted to them and o think some are hot but it’s so hard when then you see other women who are instantly attracted or aroused by a shirtless guy and are so vocal about it bc it makes my experience and attraction to men not feel like enough for a straight person. Glad to hear that someone also has a similar experience to me.
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- 3y
@Anonymous I know completely what you mean, it’s so difficult but the part were u are thinking was that even real is also just your ocd doubting every feeling you have. I’m so sorry you are going through this it’s really difficult
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- 25w
I tried checking if I like gay stuff and it’s genuinely disgusting to me. I can tell whether or not a man is attractive and when they are it does scare me and makes me question myself yet, it’s always the same response, I don’t get how you can do that with another man. Doing anything sexual just feels so gross and wrong. I don’t think that I am magically turning gay. I don’t think my orientation is changing or hasn’t been explored. I simply find that stuff gross. I have never had anything wrong with gay people and I am a true believer that people have choices they can make with free will so it’s not that I’m homophobic, just keep that stuff away from me lol. Saying so, I don’t get why I am getting these thoughts. These images in my head, constant need of checking if I fall in the spectrum, constant checking whether I like someone of any gender, constant checking whether or not I am getting groinal responses. No matter what answer I get, my mind still wants an answer, an answer to the next question that it’ll create after answering the one before it. I have always liked girls and always been so proud of it, I am in a relationship right now with a beautiful girl I’ve had a crush on since 2nd grade. (I am 19) Whatever mental illness I have has ruined our relationship. Everything feels forced on my side, I don’t remember the joy I had before this but I have glimpse throughout the days of the things we’ve done together that makes me happy and look forward to life. I am constantly checking to see if my attraction is still there for her and the scary part is, when I am stuck in my head, I am not but, to alter that, when I get that freedom and feel like my normal self, I get a hyper amount of love for her and it feels so nice. These thoughts all began after me and my girlfriend had an argument, 5 months ago we got in an argument over her not giving me enough space. She always wanted to be a part of a plan with my male friends. I never minded her when it was just us two so it’s not that I hated being with her, it was just that I had no time to be independent. ( I also had no job and nothing going for myself. ) One odd day after spending so much time stuck in the house due to weather, I had random thought on whether or not I truly loved her. We were only 4 months into the relationship so I didn’t have an answer and since it felt like I needed an answer, it became obsessive, I couldn’t stop checking. After hours with that thought, I started to wonder whether or not I was interested in other things like K I D S. This thought was an automatic no and I began to fight it. I wasn’t going to accept that, each day felt like a living hell. The questions would change each day, do I miss my ex, was my ex better, do I like my M O M, do I want to K I L L so and so, do I want to kill myself. One day I woke up and had it all in control, felt like magic, after I watched a video on ROCD and realized, oh, I am not the only one but, this is where my compulsions got even worse. I couldn’t stop checking the internet, seeing if I relate to others, watching more videos. I regret this everyday because this compulsion created so many new thoughts and questions for me to answer. About 2-3 weeks went by and a thought passed by that has been stuck with me since along with other thoughts. I thought back to what I did as kid and in the past. I remembered a traumatic event where my brother touched me (5yr old M) inappropriately. This made me question whether or not I liked it and I couldn’t find an answer, couple years (10yr old M) after that I unfortunately did the same to my cousin (8yr old M). I feel so much shame and guilt for it. My mind turned black and white, “Maybe this isn’t a do you like your girl or not but instead, maybe you just like boys I mean, you obviously never asked yourself if you like what you did so”. This question was terrifying for me because it meant that I could no longer love my girl, my whole life till now has been a lie. So I began to question everything in my past up to date to find an answer. No matter what answer I fed my mind, it would not be satisfied and simply create more questions. It felt like my mind was forcing me to be gay, whether or not I liked it. 4 months has passed and the questions have just gotten worse, something I was initially so afraid of. I am in constant fight or flight mode, I am always anxious and I can’t feel nothing. I get times of relief when I am reminded of my past, when my gf turns me on, or when I find an answer to question my mind conjured up. I started to go to church but it’s always been a struggle for me to believe. I can’t go to the gym anymore because everywhere I look I am questioning myself. My porn addiction has went away but mostly because I can’t find anything attractive anymore. I can only find comfort and discomfort. Something that was once so easy for me would 1 day be nonexistent and hard to live without. I don’t know what the truth is anymore. My life feels like a made-up lie. Though I have always loved women, fantasized about them, get extremely nervous around them, pray for them, romanticize them, etc. I now have no idea what it feels like to be in love, interested, or even happy for a woman. My attraction hasn’t vanished completely, I still can look a girl and be stunned, l simply just can’t destroy the feeling it gives me. I get so anxious and begin to question everything about the women, the feeling, myself. I am having a crisis.
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- 25w
I want to get thought this weird horrible period, it has been horrible. I am doubting everything. I’m not diagnosed but when I look at my past I’ve always been horribly anxious and worrying about health, death and basically everything while suffering from major a lot of insecurities stemming from bullying and lately a lack of intimacy with my partner, Every time I think I’m on the way out, or see some light at the end of the tunnel my mind always pulls me back in. It’s torture. I’ve always been insecure about how I look and I find myself comparing myself at other males and it’s made my self esteem on the floor. I have a girlfriend and prior to this we had a future planned and talked about kids (we’re still young, but it felt so real), this all began to bubble when we stopped being intimate and the loss of my job. I don’t know anymore how to move on, every day feels like a chore. The intrusive thoughts telling me I’m in denial, constantly thinking about men I’ve felt insecure about their looks compared to mine wishing I looked like them plaguing my mind. The false attractions, prior to this i was comfortable in acknowledging good looking men. However now my mind takes this as evidence, every single thing in my past seems like some form of evidence. Not having male friends, the comparisons, being questioned about my sexuality from siblings. I’m sorry if this is reassurance, I am just needing to get some things of my chest. Every time I think about my first real attraction or girls I found pretty/attractive or I liked my mind is like your in denial and then I feel horrible about thinking those thoughts as I have my girlfriend. I miss just being with my girlfriend and not having these thoughts and feeling horrible. I feel like a fraud and a horrible partner. I’ve tried to accept maybe, maybe not, but something always comes back. These 4 months have been terrible. I want to sleep without horrible dreams, I want to eat. I want to feel like myself again. Thank you to anyone who reads this. Hope you’re strong too.
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- 21w
Hi, I'm new to this and it took me a long time to gather the courage to post, but I could really use some advice. This will be a long post because I don't know how not to overexplain, please bear with me. I'm yet to be diagnosed with anything, so I'm not sure if this is one of the ways OCD can present itself, but I'm really hoping it's just soocd and nothing else. I'm 22F, cis and straight all my life as far as I know, but back in April, in a particularly exhausting day, I had an intrusive thought about liking women after seeing some random post on twitter and I've been spiraling ever since, with thoughts and anxiety non-stop trying to figure out an answer. I've noticed that my thoughts have been obsessing over this in a loop, where I question if I'm a lesbian or bi (I really really don't want to be, though I have nothing against the lgbt community) > question if I'm aro/ace (also really don't want to be, I'd be super depressed if I were because that would stop me from living the life I've always dreamed of) > question if I'm simply afraid of getting in a relationship and why. It's this loop where I can't figure anything out, my brain feels like it's in the middle of a storm. Looking back, I think I might have had rocd in my last relationship because I kept messaging my boyfriend asking for reassurance if he loved me and wouldn't leave me, but the reassurance only lasted at best a day before the doubts came back and I felt the need to ask again, and this lasted for months if not years. Now I've never questioned my orientation, I just knew I was straight (always crushed on boys, craved their attention and love, male celebrities, male characters, always fantasized about having a husband and kids, never felt anything towards women that way, never considered them as partners) until this one intrusive thought caused me to spiral out of control and I've never been the same since. This in and of itself should be enough to prove to my brain that I'm straight and have always been, right? Logically it should, it makes no sense otherwise... But it's not enough, so I've been googling non-stop, been reading so many posts here that I relate to for reassurance, been reviewing my memories, ruminating all day and night, testing myself by looking at pictures of men and women to check for reactions (when I'm not avoiding looking at them altogether). Even when I feel that my mind is quieter, the anxiety is still there, and I keep trying to affirm what I've always believed to see if I still agree and it's like my body preemptively gets anxious expecting the thoughts to return and then uses that anxiety as evidence that the thoughts are true when I really don't want them to be... I guess all of these count as compulsions? It's bad to the point anything lgbt-related triggers me now when it never did before (I was always like "good for them, but that's not for me" towards any kind of lgbt content, I've never identified with the community nor do I want to be part of it still), I can barely get anything done, get out of the house, spend time with my friends, listen to music or watch movies, focus on what I need to do, eat, sleep or even just enjoy my hobbies. The anxiety is always there, my mind feels like it'll explode and I feel like my life will be over if I don't figure this out now so I can fix it. I think I've also been experiencing false attractions and loss of attraction, which is making all of this worse, because my mind is trying to find out why they're happening and using them as evidence that I'm one thing or another... I never had any feelings towards women before this all started but I'm so scared I might have now all of a sudden when I don't want to. It's exhausting, I just want to be able to live normally again. The what ifs don't stop: what if I find out I'm actually what my fears say I am? What if I'm one of those late bloomer lesbians? What if I'm in denial? What if I'm just saying I've always wanted men due to comphet? What if I actually never find out and I'll be ruminating over this my entire life and won't be able to live? What if I'm lying to myself? What if I've always been that and never known? What if others find out I'm having these thoughts? What if it's not OCD and I'm making excuses and this is all true? What if it's always been a subconscious desire and I didn't know? What if I have sex with a man and don't like it actually? What if I'm aro/ace and that means I'll never be able to have a family one day? What if I have no choice? What if that one memory where you enjoyed time with a female friend means you're gay actually? What if I'm never able to love a man ever again despite having been able to in the past? The idea of being with a woman is absolutely terrifying to me, I'm not at all comfortable with the idea of being a lesbian or bi or anything, while the idea of being with a man only causes me some anxiety but feels more right. I've had very few experiences with relationships, most were unfortunately long distance, and I'm currently single so I can't even gauge my attraction or feelings that way, but I'm so tempted to seek a relationship because of this to prove I'm still straight... I also have GAD and might have depression, so that may be contributing to all of this... I just feel like my life is over, I can't live like this. I can't handle my mind constantly looking for proof that I'm lesbian or bi, using the fact that I enjoy my mom's hugs or my female friends' company to say "see?? I was right and you're lesbian!!" when I never once in my life ever thought of women that way, I don't understand why this is happening 😭😭 And to make it worse, it's also latching onto the past and using it as proof that I must have always been a lesbian without knowing and it's making me feel like I actually wanted it, when at the time I never thought of it that way. Like, me enjoying the company of one of my best friends or sharing a common interest with her doesn't mean I'm gay?? Caring about my friends isn't gay?? Being a girl who likes girly things doesn't make me gay?? But the thoughts are always like "no you're lying, you're just in denial, you actually felt xyz back then that's why you wanted her company" or "are you sure?". The thoughts also latch on the fact that I find incel, gooner and misogynistic behavior disgusting (which might be poisoning my opinion about men as well even though I don't want it to 😭), and they tell me I'm a lesbian because of it, which only makes me more depressed. But no matter how much I try to argue, it's never enough, the doubts are always there and it's making me have so many panic attacks they wake me up at night and don't let me rest. I'm so scared of accepting the thoughts because I fear that accepting them will make me actually a lesbian when I really don't want to be (and I keep claiming I don't want to be and my mind keeps throwing the "are you sure? you're not sure" around, it never ends 😭). It feels so real, I'm so scared. I'll add this as well because I feel is relevant, but these thoughts/spirals have also tried latching onto my religious beliefs (I have none, but they tried to convince me I did after I saw a post on social media) and onto my gender identity (they tried convincing me I wanted to be a trans man, when in fact I've always wanted to look more feminine, because I'm so thin I barely have boobs and it's always been a huge source of insecurity for me). These, however, haven't returned, unlike the spirals about my sexual orientation and mainly about being lesbian/bi. I think I may have had at best a week free from this obsession, and even when I'm distracted I feel like they're always somewhere near my mind just waiting to snatch it from me again. If I manage to calm down, my mind will also use that against me, saying stuff like "see, you're calm now, which means you've accepted you're a lesbian!!" and I get all depressed and anxious again and want to cry but can't because I'm so tired. I just don't want that to be true, I want my normal life back 😭 I know I shouldn't ask for reassurance, but I can't calm down. My life has been a living hell ever since this started, I feel unable to live, I just want to go back to how I was before all of this started. Is this HOCD/SOOCD at all? Can anyone else relate to this? Please tell me I'm not alone on these experiences, that I'm not what these thoughts claim... My mind is so close to fully convincing me that I am what they say and it's making me so depressed and anxious 😭😭 and it feels so real, like I'm already what they say I am and I'm chasing something that's no longer there. I'm so scared. I don't want to accept any possibility, I don't want to explore or "figure it out", I just want to be secure with my straight orientation again as I've always been, but there seems to be so much evidence of the contrary and I can't live with that possibility. How could I become a lesbian in the span of a few months when I never wanted that?? 😭 I'm so depressed, I miss crushing on men and wanting a husband and kids, I'm tired of arguing with my mind non-stop. I feel like I've been so full of doubts that I can barely affirm my favorite color, I can't remember what's like to be free from this madness, it's like from one moment to another I lost myself amidst this chaos and no longer know the stuff I've always known about myself. How do I go back to how I was before? How do I stop this without changing to be something I don't want? How do I get rid of these doubts that aren't supposed to mean anything but are scaring the shit out of me because what if they're true and I'm one of those cases where I'll become the sexuality I fear? I cannot bear the thought. It's been nightmarish 😭😭
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