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Well I never came across that because the things I think are a sin arent objectively. Have you come across such things?
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What do you mean sin aren't objectively
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The things my ocd tells me are probably a sin are not from an objective perspective. So if I do them I think it is a sin but if a normal person does it it is not.
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How do you tell when an act *is* objectively a sin
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I can't really think of anything I'm sure is objectively sinful in all circumstances, and even those things I'm pretty sure of I'm not sure if I understood what they means correctly (eg "does this count as blasphemy/masturbation/etc")
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Objectively sinful for example are insulting others or to lie. When I struggle with thoughts it is very difficult to say if they are a sin because I usually dont know if I agreed to them but I ignore them because I have ocd and I dont count them as sin.
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I'm not sure insulting others is inherently sinful but in any case... how do you know whether something counts as insulting others or lying
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Well because insulting others is always sinful I dont really understand why you dont think so.
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Anyway, how do you know whether something counts as insulting/lying
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@Anonim0us I don't mean these particular examples... like in general how do you know if it counts? What's you general rule or basis
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Are you struggling with thoughts because when I insult someone out of rage I just know it was a sin?
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I said anyway...
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Maybe that helps you. In my life with ocd I always experienced that ocd leads to doubts. I learnt more or less and I am still struggling with that not to ruminate about such things. Sometimes I dont know if it was really a sin other times I do but even the things Im not sure about I ask for forgiveness. Nice day.
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How do you know when it is? What's your basis
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@Anonim0us 1.When it is objectively with that I mean it is a sin no matter who commits it it is a sin. 2.Conscience tells me that I did something wrong the problem here is that you are insecure even if you feel guilty. The solution for me is here to educate my conscience with things that help me to say if something is sinful or not like gospel catechism etc that is my way.
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@PhilippFree What do you use to educate your conscience? Are you using "conscience" to mean a function of reason?
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@Anonim0us *the function of reason
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@Anonim0us I primarily use catholic websites where they break down such things. Im using conscience as your inner voice telling what is right and wrong.
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@PhilippFree Catholic websites can disagree and how do you know whether you understand the words right? Like, your reading comprehension is right (not meaning to insult you, just asking)
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1.I have to trust the websites and if they are officially catholic it is a lot easier to trust. 2.If I am not sure if I understand right I google it then a lot of other websites show up or watch a video.
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Even officially Catholic websites disagree, and watching videos still doesn't mean you understood the words rights after
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@Anonim0us Well they explain it so I understand and I havent come across a website which contradicts.
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@PhilippFree Scrupulous Anonymous probably defies some or all of your expectations
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@Anonim0us And some scrupulosity resources say scrupulous people only have to consider sin what the Church herself explicitly says is sin
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@Anonim0us Yeah but isnt that the goal go away from your own thoughts which are not true and coming to acknowledge that not everything is sinful.
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@PhilippFree I don't understand what your saying... what part of what I said contradicted that goal? /gq
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You wrote that some resources say ocd people should consider only sin what the church teaches that its a sin and I was reading it like you do not agree with that sorry if I was wrong.
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Honestly I got lost at some point in the conversation lol. May I ask, on a different note, what definition of doubt you've found? Like, how do you know if you have a real doubt (when in doubt, assume it's not a sin) or just a feeling of I don't want to do his or something else
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Thats a own topic. I have really a problem with this. When I doubt my brain still tells me it could be a sin and I ignore that because if I wouldnt my ocd woulg get only stronger. When I was younger I always threw a coin and decided with that because of that doubts. Here I am today I am trying to ignore all kind of doubts to gain a bit happiness in life.
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