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- 3y
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I think the way they would apply ERP to this is to get you to change the way you respond to those thoughts. It’s very likely that there’s something compulsive you’re doing in response to the intrusive thoughts when it first pops up— for example, my boyfriend has told me he used to lie and cheat in previous relationships until he went to therapy a few years ago. Sometimes something reminds me of that, and it makes me uncomfortable, and I feel like I have to really THINk about it to make sure or CHECK that it doesn’t affect my image of him or that he’s not going to cheat on me or something. So the compulsive behavior is that I try to imagine what he was thinking, what he said to her, I try to vividly imagine them having a whole conversation, imagine exactly what he did, how he felt about cheating, whether or not he’s ever had those thoughts about me, etc. But the more I do that the more the intrusive thoughts disturb me. So I am trying to resist thinking about it more whenever the thought comes up. Like I have to say “oh, I don’t like that idea, but thinking about it more will not help me” and try to get back to what I’m doing in real life. It’s super hard though. Sometimes using a mantra like “what matters is I trust him right now the past doesn’t matter” helps, but that’s kind of a reassurance.
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Remember that the problem isn’t that you can’t bear the knowledge that she was with other men—you have the ability to cope with fleeting discomfort about it just like anyone else. The problem is that you are having trouble with how often this is on your mind, and the longer it’s on your mind, the more bothersome it becomes, and the sensation of no escape is very distressing. So your focus needs to be on figuring out how to decrease the time spent thinking about it, rather than necessarily reducing the pain that occurrs when it IS on your mind.
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- 3y
@jello86 Thanks for your comment. The frequency and duration of this topic being on my mind has been a big part of my struggle, but it’s also the vividness of the mental movies. They eclipse reality. “It’s just a thought” becomes a meaningless phrase. It’s scary *because* it’s a thought. It can hit you at any time and doesn’t have to follow the rules of logic. And for me, they feel so real. This is not just the case with bad thoughts. My mental imagery in general is so vivid. It has been an asset in some cases, but it’s often a burden. The other problem is just that the thoughts come with a history of hurt for me. I’ve hurt so much at the thoughts that they also bring to mind the hurt I’ve already felt and the possibility of having episodes like that again. I guess the phrase “anxiety about anxiety” could be evoked here.
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- 3y
I have the same thing it's torturing. What I'm trying to do is focus on our sexual relationship, how he shows to me the he wants me, what he says to me, our games etc etc. If you focus on what's happening right now, it could be helpful. Because what you are having right now with this girl could be something her ex or anyone could be jealous of, but YOU have it so enjoy it. Also, you also had a past. If you come to think of your own past, you'll understand that it doesn't affect in any way how you feel about her. So this applies to her. No matter what she has done, you have done it too and it doesn't exist it's past. I don't know if I help, I have too many insecurities and overthink all those things you ve mentioned but maybe I'm also talking to myself right now. When you think of this stuff, just slow down. It's like putting your mind out to see how it's gonna react , you know that the reaction will be the same. don't feed it too much. Recognize the thought but let it go ! And slow down!!!
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- 3y
I’m kind of in a different position in that I don’t have a past as such and my girlfriend and I abstain for religious reasons. I will avoid talking too much about that, because I will get more into ruminating, though. I vented to my girlfriend today (not about retroactive jealousy specifically, just about OCD and depression) and I feel a bit better. This theme has been so tough though. I know it will flare up again which is what scares me.
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- 3y
@CaptainKierkegaard Talk to a therapist about that. They can help you ease your thoughts. You are not alone!
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- 20w
Can anyone relate to this type of ROCD? It’s like i obsess of my partners past, I’ve spent probably 100 hours over the last 3 years asking him about girls he was with before me questioning him about every little detail and seeking reassurance. I don’t want to think about these girls at all. And I’ve been in ERP since August and was doing really good and not sure if it’s just getting bad again the last few days because of the holiday (Easter) and i had to go to his hometown where I know he had a past in and he recently brought a ring which I’m so excited about but it just seems like it’s getting harder for me and i don’t wanna be talking about girls he dated for a few months before me when we are about to get engaged. Am i ruining my future? What can I do to help and to not bring up stuff about the girls before me? How can I be in the moment and not relate everything to an irrelevant girl before me? Help
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- Date posted
- 17w
I’m gonna try to make this make sense, and any support or advice would be great. I have a beautiful girlfriend, who I’ve been dating off and on for a year. We were really rocky but got our shit figured out 4 months ago and have been strong since. I truly love this girl more than I’ve loved anyone. And I know based off the sheer amount of ocd that has come up on our relationship, that she means a lot to me. Me and her were in a friend group in 2022 and we never liked each other. However she had a sexual relationship with one of my old friends. Fast forward to now I haven’t talked to him in a long time and I don’t see it as an issue. However… I keep having this vivid flashback to him touching her some kinda way in 2022. I can’t remember exactly what happened or the details but it’s running through my head. I guess this is retroactive jealousy but it’s really almost hurting my feelings. I wish it would stop but I know ocd doesn’t work that way. I just wanna be happy with my girl and not upset at her past experiences
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- 12w
New member here. I realize this Retroactive Jealousy OCD topic is not thoroughly discussed and most therapists are unfamiliar with this OCD. This is perhaps the most painful form of OCD, and most people have no idea how or why people have these irrational obsessive thoughts. Here is my story in detail. Many of you might be able to relate. 12 years ago I was a 38 years old divorced man with 2 small children. I had been divorced for 4 years, during which time a had a few relationships and had sex regularly with the women I dated. One day I met a wonderful woman and fell in love with her. She was same age as me, and similar divorce and dating experiences. Everything was perfect in the beginning just like any new relationships. 2 months into the relationship I decided that we should disclose our body count and experiences (for transparency). I was only interested in the period after our divorce because we had both been with our ex spouse for over 15 years and stuff before that was borderline pre-adult stuff. Coincidentally 6-8 for both of us. Only difference is I had 2 serious relationships and she had none. She had 1 one-nighter with a friend and a “friends with benefits” situation with 1 other guy. The rest were short 1x and 2x experiences, just like me. Granted we were both in our mid 30s so this stuff shouldn’t shock anyone. For some reason I began fixating on that 1 nighter and friend with benefits. That 1-nighter happened a few months after her divorce and was with an old guy (54) from another country. I felt sickened and kept imagining their sex act. I asked her how it was and she said she was lonely and it was a bad choice. I kept obsessing over it. Maybe she liked older men? Next I started ruminating over her Friend with Benefits which went on for 2 years. They dated briefly but she said she was never in love. Neither wanted a relationship but happens to meet up a few times a year and ended up having sex. This friend was extremely threatened once he found out about me. I felt maybe her connection with him was stronger or maybe sex was so good she couldn’t avoid him. She said no. In fact she decided to end all contact with him and he freaked out. But I felt insecure and I felt extreme pain when I thought about her having sex with these people. I thought it was very unlike her to do that. She felt I was judging her. We had our first fight. I broke up with her. Same day I regretted my actions and clearly it was my issue. I begged her for her forgiveness. I started therapy to figure out what was wrong. Clearly Retroactive Jealousy OCD was relatively unknown 12 years ago. The psychiatrist considered it a form of OCD and treated it accordingly. With the combination medication and therapy I was able to conquer it in 8 months. We got married and next month we will celebrate our 11th year wedding anniversary. But the story is not over. In March of this year I suffered a nervous breakdown, mainly due to severe. personal and professional stress. All my OCDs came back literally overnight. So now I’m being treated again and it has been very difficult. This is work in progress. I’m not out of the woods yet. I am on serotonin and therapy 3x a week. Hopefully in due time, I’ll get better…again.
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