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- 3y
Unfortunately yes. I'm stuck now at a crossroads. I'm not sure if using them as a compulsion or because I'm trying to carry on as normal. Either way my OCD tells me I'm using it as a test. This is obviously the conversation I need to avoid getting into a web with. It's relentless!
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This is exactly how I feel when using dating apps
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You may be able to use them as a good exposure for ERP?
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- 3y
Thanks for commenting. I did think about that. I've used it to look at men and create the anxiety now I probably need to do it with women.
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@Shaun05 Do you have good response prevention methods to use instead of compulsions? This can make a huge difference
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@NOCD Therapist - Rex P. Hi - I just try and sit with the anxiety and not analyse it or question it. This is the difficult bit though because I don't have an actual focus point as this could be seen as avoidance. Do you have any specific prevention methods that you could share please?
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@Shaun05 Absolutely. There are many. First, if you don’t mind my asking, are you currently seeing a therapist for OCD or another issue?
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@NOCD Therapist - Rex P. Hi - I received therapy two years ago for my OCD which had the same theme and I'm currently on a waiting list to start again. In the meantime I've been looking back to the techniques I learnt from last time. Apart from acceptance one that I remember is having a section of the day dedicated to ruminating. In the lead up to that time I would simply say "I won't deal with it now I deal with it later". Any other tips would be gratefully received. I'm doing ERP by watching video content which puts me at unease and then I try and sit with the anxiety without questioning it. The one I'm struggling with at the moment is checking- I find I keep checking to see if my reaction has changed and of course it hasn't. I do feel that I'm making gradual progress though. Thank you for your time.
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@Shaun05 Good to hear your making some progress. Some methods are difficult to explain on text, but the main one I prefer and also use myself, as I have OCD as well, is mindfulness based stress reduction. If you Google mindfulness meditation you will see tons of research on its effectiveness with lowering stress, managing depression and anxiety, sleep issues and many more. The meditation is just an exercise to strengthen one’s ability to be mindful. Mindfulness is basically being aware and present in the moment. Anxiety is always either future based or past based. You’re either anxious about what will happen or something that did happen. To use as a response prevention technique you can just add this to sitting with the anxiety without engaging in compulsions. Response prevention is just that, replacing compulsions with something more productive and that doesn’t become a compulsion itself. To be really effective you want to develop your ability to be mindful. When you are mindful, you are focused on the present moment where anxiety does not exist. Mindfulness meditation is the exercise to strengthen it. You can find many ways of doing mindfulness meditation online and many apps that do guided meditations. I recommend these for starting off. However, mindfulness meditation is nothing more than sitting and observing thoughts and feelings arise in your mind and body and then pass through without attachment to them. Most thoughts that have no significance to us do just that, they arise in our mind and we don’t think much of them and so they pass on through. However, thoughts that we attach fear to such as OCD based thoughts we tend to hold on to because of the fear they create. This feeds them more power to have over us. What I do, is whenever I recognize an obsessive type of thought rise up in my mind, I first became aware of it and acknowledge it as just a thought. The moment you do this you have brought yourself back to the present moment and out of your head. Second thing is to maintain that long enough for the thought to completely pass through. This is done by focusing on your breathing and what meditation helps you develop. Once the thought has passed, I continue on with whatever it was I was doing before. You mentioned having a focus point for response prevention. Welll, observing your breathing is the best. You can’t forget it and leave it at home right. It’s always there. Plus it helps calm you down if done right. I’m sure you’ve noticed that your anxiety can increase when you have nothing to pay attention to or keep your mind occupied. This is what mindfulness does. The breath is an anchor for your thoughts. Again, the process is becoming aware of OCD thoughts or when you’ve been caught up in your head overthinking or obsessing, then focus your attention on your breathing, and continue doing so until the thoughts pass and go back to whatever your were initially doing. Not the easiest to describe by text. There’s a good book called “Get out of your head and onto your life” that teaches this along with other techniques for managing anxiety. That is the ultimate goal. Get out of our heads. We spend too much wasted time in them worrying and analyzing everything looking for an answer that will fix everything. The problem is, that doesn’t exist. OCD is not based on logic. Therefore, we cannot beat it by using logic. We need to take away the attention we give it and let starve to death from not having control over us anymore. Remember thoughts are neither good or bad until we make them one way or the other
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@NOCD Therapist - Rex P. First of all thanks a lot for taking the time to offer the advice and support and reply to my messages. That's all I needed, a focal point and breathing is just that. I think I've finally accepted that it's not a quick fix and once you understand this you take the pressure off yourself. Thanks once again - you've been a massive help!
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@Shaun05 Glad to hear. And your absolutely right. There is no quick fix. Learning to accept that and stop fighting and resisting it can be very helpful. Best of luck to you
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- 24w
(Sorry for the long post!) So one of the OCD things that most affects me at times, and that I have not really found other people dealing with (in literature or in my work as a therapist working with people with OCD), is one that often relates to potential dating and people I am interested in. Typically, as a gay male, I meet people on chat apps or dating sites, so the first interactions are virtual. What I find often happens is that I sort of build an image of the person, and then if anything goes against that, I start to get anxious and the OCD kicks in. An example may work best. I started talking to a guy that I find incredibly attractive, and who seems to find me attractive as well, and when we became friends on instagram, I saw that he has done some amateur modeling for a friend who does pictures in various states of undress. There are a few in underwear, and a few with no clothes (no genitals are shown), and this started off the thoughts of "oh no, he must just want sex" or "I bet he is super promiscuous if he has pictures like these." This leads to me investigating the other photos on the site, and the guy who does the images to try and figure it out, what kind of work it is, etc. I even found a way to work it into a conversation with the guy, like "wow I don't think I could do that. You're braver than me," and he said he did it because the photographer is a husband of a coworker and expressed interest in doing the pictures, and he loves his body so didn't mind doing it, and they are really good friends now. OCD then gets triggered "he loves his body? That must mean he really IS promiscuous. What if he and the men also have threesomes?" This leads to intrusive thoughts of me having to picture this happening,or him having sex with other people, over and over until it "feels right." I'll recheck his dating profiles in which has said that he is "not into fast sex," and then think about and picture scenarios about how that could just mean he wants to talk to someone once before having sex. The OCD also affects conversations--if he doesn't get back to me quickly on WhatsApp, I scour the texts to see if I messed something up (ocd responsibility--it's always my fault). I texted him yesterday, and he hasn't looked at the messages (he has read receipts on WhatsApp), but I check and see that he has liked a post by someone on instagram or has posted a story, so I think "clearly he sees that I've messaged and is purposely ignoring it, because he hates me and wants nothing to do with me. That's it, I'm never going to hear from him again." We were supposed to hang out last week, but he asked to reschedule because he wasn't feeling well, so my OCD then said "he was at an event the night before, he probably met someone and is still at their house." He did text the next day to ask what my schedule was, and then said "perfect. I work in Lisbon until next Thursday" (I'm currently living in Porto, in Portugal, where he also lives), so he seems to be interested in hanging out, but then I think "he probably saw something that I did online or someone we both know in common somehow told him something and now he's done with me. Or maybe he met someone he's more interested in, and will just ignore me now." This type of experience has happened with several guys I've been interested in, and it has actually led to me pushing too hard and making them uncomfortable as I seek certainty, so I'm trying to be aware of that and not engage in that kind of behavior. I also realize that there are like a billion different OCD things in this post, and I'm writing another post as well related to how moral scrupulosity has been controlling my beliefs about sex, etc., something my new therapist identified after one session. Anyway, I just wanted to see if anyone has experienced anything along these lines, because when it happens it takes over and it is painful and I just want to rip it out of my head. Additionally, I never quite know how to manage exposure to this type of thing--there is the logical one of not checking social media, and not texting or re-reading texts, but it's also hard because I will actually force myself at times to think about him having sex with people, and then that makes me feel overwhelmed with anxiety, but I also can't suppress the thoughts, as that doesn't work, and am thus trying to do more of an ACT/acceptance approach. Unfortunately my therapist is out of town this week, so we can't work on anything surrounding this until next week. Thanks for taking the time to read this, and I apologize that it is so long, but it is just really sucks right now.
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- 19w
I watched the trailer for the movie “Am I Ok?” and got completely triggered. Basically a 32 yo woman discovers she’s a lesbian seemingly out of nowhere. I was triggers and did some research (bad idea) and apparently some people who are gay have never had romantic or sexual interest in people of the same sex until one spontaneous moment of discovery. Now I’m worried that this could be me!! I’ve never had a long term relationship, have had crushes and fantasies but back out when things get too close for me. I do prefer my little fantasy world guy but now I’m wondering if maybe I missed something and am in denial, even if I didn’t know it.
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- 18w
Does anyone else read other peoples post and think it’s for them or about them and their situation and start to think that’s what they are going through themselves ? Or like I’m blaming ocd but it’s my brain actually telling that’s how I actually feel?
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