Is it really possible, m standing.. little bend to put paper on toilet seat before usage.. my hairs almost tied up.. and suddenly i felt what if my hairs touched toilet seat or inside.. my height is 5.4 is it really possible? and if it happens will i know it or it can just happen without me feeling anything ...? I

how about you? germs or gross feeling?

I think it's a form of false memory which is really common for OCD. I thought it was rare but a lot of other people with contamination OCD have said they experience this as well. I really don't like when it happens. I feel so confused and unsure!

You would most likely feel your hair move but it's possible if it barely brushed the seat you may not notice. Since your hair was tied back I doubt whatever short hairs were poking out could reach the toilet seat. Your face would have had to be very close to the seat. It was most likely the air from you leaning over slightly. I have a ton of these false sensations and automatic thought did my hand just touch that object? Did I just brush against it? It sucks.

yes it sucks...i wish i could change my brain.. 99.999 % times nothing has happened... but we like to give imprtance to 0.0001%

Right! And then if it's something really gross it's even harder to trust that you didn't touch it and it's like did I didn't I I don't know but if I did that would be so gross I better clean (at least for me).

yes, I understand.. i have convinced my self that everything in nature is clean as its self cleaning.. even dirty is not enough dirty... other people live and kids play with adults outside without thinking abt it and they are normal... for any other trash i m fine.. if its not bathroom trash.. people have cats who go outside and sit on trashbins outside and then sleep with owner.. again they are ocd free people and most of the people have cats... i m just stuck with toilet and phobic about it , even if it is clean.. like today the once which i used was very clean still i got the thought which is almost impossible.. our fear gives these thoughts.. i guess no fear.. no thought..

Same I'm not concerned with general dirt at all. I'm scared of one virus and almost became overly worried about raw meat but I was able to get it under control pretty quickly.

for me its just feeling of being dirty.. from toilet seat... and i feel if some particle from there get stucks to my body or hair.. i will be dirty and i will make everything dirty.. m not sure if thats even possible..

Do you feel like you will get a disease or does it just feel gross?

i just feel gross... m not scared of diseases as that depends on our immunity.. more exposed to germs means more immunity. unless one is living in pile of garbage ...

Interesting, it sounds like you've got a confident view of germs so you just have to get used to the yucky feeling. What compulsions do you do?

Mine is germs. I'm scared of a disease sometimes I'll feel gross but it's mostly about the fear of infection.

germs can’t give the infections, only when some epidemic happens and all are dying. virus are non communicable as per science.. so its our inner health decides what will happen. hope this helps you.. its science and its true... google gives people views.. thats not true all the time

I do agree that the environment is what allows or doesn't allow infections but mostly everyone is not up to top health because of toxins in food, air and environment. I have a hard time accepting how long viruses can transmit in the environment. Especially when specialist say "short time" or "possibly when in a wet environment". It's hard to trust this timeline. I really appreciate the information you gave though! I need a better understanding/interpretation of germ facts.

I love science so i know the facts... May be you can take probiotics everyday.. then you will never fall sick.. and your immunity will be strong?

I understand your concern.. i m just trying to change your thoughts so that you can feel better... i will be glad if I could help you..

My compulsions are morning exterior area toilet bowl wiping rituals and then i end up taking washing my hairs too as I start feeling gross... also if i get some illusions in the public restroom or office restroom, I end up taking shower when i come home.. worst things i get so scared that my hairs or clothes should not touch house walls or anything else I will hv to wipe that too with clorox.

Thank you! I appreciate your help! Have you started ERP treatment?

Yes, I have just started it.. it needs lot of self control.. and i tend to loose the control sometime... especislly with public restrooms?

Totally! It takes so much to sit with the anxiety or gross feelings. Sometimes it feels like a lose lose scenario because it's either compulsion which makes OCD worse or sit with high anxiety but I know this drops over time.

yes if we could resist longer this feeling will go away.. but i dont understand why i get illusions about something which has not happened.. these doubts.. wish there was a way to figure out that its just a doubt...

Yes you are right ... May its just our fear which creates these fake thoughts...

It definitely is it's so frustrating I feel like fear used to make me focused and careful now it just makes me confused!