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- Cat_attack
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- 2y ago
I haven’t seen anyone on here say it’s a chemical imbalance because that hasn’t been proven. Just like how depression was “said” to be a Chemical I’ll imbalance but that has been debunked. Regarding your situation, everyone is different and you might have extreme OCD that might need inpatient therapy. I can’t say, but a professional can. You also have to look at yourself and what you’ve been doing during those 10 years. And was ERP done correctly with a professional? How many years has that professional had under their belt to help you? Also, what else we’re you doing during this time period: we’re you giving into compulsions, ruminating, constantly seeking reassurance, not going outside and only staying inside, etc. Were you also on a daily schedule? Did you work out and did you learn healthy coping mechanisms and throw out bad coping mechanisms? If you have other mental illnesses, did you also get therapy for your other mental illnesses? Have you been told that facing your fears will feel like death but you don’t die and that yes, in extreme cases you will possibly have a panic attack—or many—during exposures because your brain/OCD doesn’t want to be face to face with triggers. But it needs to in order for you to get better. Same for trauma therapy. It sucks and I went through it and I panicked, but I was DONE, absolutely DONE not living my life and being stuck on a horribly depressing loop of nothingness. There’s A LOT of factors regarding getting better. No one size fits all and it depends on the person. But I’d definitely wouldn’t say ERP doesn’t work. For some people, if you’re at 100% anxiety but you can get it down to 50% anxiety and that’s all that indivisible can do, that’s GOOD. 100% anxiety all day every day is horrible. Been there, done that. I’d say I’m at 15-20% anxiety level throughout the day because I have 4 other mental illnesses and that’s just my state of being. But looking back 8 years ago when I couldn’t get out of my dark walk in closest or else I’d freak the hell out and go into psychosis? I’m living an absolutely amazing life. You can too.
@Nica 1. Just because you didn’t see anyone say that doesn’t mean I didn’t, because I have. 2. I have been in therapy over ten years. I have worked closely with a trauma therapist and a OCD specialist (who has been in practice over 35 YEARS! He used to run a treatment center for OCD patients and wanted to do one on one work). Both have confirmed exposure therapy will NOT work for me. Because the cause of OCD is different for everyone as you said; but that means that the treatment is different due to the reason. I have been told my OCD is due to a chronic illness I have had since I was 12 that requires constant control and I can’t handle not controlling things because of it. So your wrong it doesn’t always work. I do not qualify for in patent treatment due to my chronic disease 🙃
@Nica Adding onto that…because of my chronic disease a massive panic attack and stress can LITERALLY kill me. So again wrong. I can not allow myself to reach that point.
it tends to make my panic attacks hit harder when I get exposed to triggers so I can relate somewhat I’m terrified of it cuz of that exact reason idk if others have an anxiety disorder or not but I feel like I can’t breathe right now cuz the thoughts are so repetitive I cry in anger and loss of hope most of the time I will try medication next see if it eases my ocd AND anxiety but yeah I totally hear where ur coming from I’m going on year 3 with mines.. scared I might be like this forever in all honesty. Maybe get on medication that works first then go from there
@valkyrie2015 I am so sorry you are experiencing similar issues 😔 I was on medication before and they caused seizures 😂🙃 Do you live with people? I notice any time I am alone or with just my boyfriend on vacation I am so much better. The thought of knowing I can “fix” something whenever I want/need to, makes the urge to fix it way less. That’s the problem with my experience. Living in a situation where if I need to disinfect/wash/move something I can’t because I will get “ Reprimanded”
There are other treatments like Deep TMS and certain Neuro surgeries for treatment-resistant OCD. You may have another condition that makes ERP harder, but most people heal using ERP even without medication. Don't give up and don't worry what others say. Treatment should be between you and your provider.
@yup_its_ocd I have never gotten better from exposure therapy. As mentioned in my response to multiple other comments (🤣) I actually feel 💯 better when I am in a calmer environment. My OCD almost completely diminishes. The OCD specialist I was seeing has told me he highly recommends me moving out. But everything is so expensive and with my other health condition I can’t find it the extra money for that 😅
@yup_its_ocd Thank you for being kind and supportive 💜
I’m sorry you are struggling! Agree with what others have said. We don’t know the circumstances of your toxic environment. That can certainly be a factor here. Honestly, though, exposure therapy is complicated and isn’t as straightforward as people think. I’ve done exposure therapy before and was still engaging in compulsions without knowing—which undermines the whole damn thing. Working with a specialist that has lots of experience makes a big difference. Exposure therapy works and is the thing that works the best. Other alternatives have worse outcomes. Are you on meds? That can be an important supplement. I hope you get some relief soon :)
@dragon_calves As mentioned before I saw a OCD specialist who said himself exposure therapy does not work for everyone and it doesn’t work with me. I was not giving into compulsions. I was under close “supervision” with my therapist during this time.
@Cat_attack I’m sorry you feel disgusted by these comments. And I’m sorry treatment hasn’t worked for you. This community is ERP-based, as that is the gold standard treatment. If you OCD goes away from easing environmental stress, great. Most people with OCD don’t experience that. I hope you find relief, escape from toxicity and treatment that does work.
@dragon_calves I find that pretty f”ing” sad that an entire support group is based on ONE treatment plan. Wow
@Cat_attack There's always a possibility of talking about other treatments, but even ERP is a new treatment by comparison. Prior to ERP there were no treatments for OCD. It was a hopeless disease you were essentially stuck with. Right now though we have Deep TMS and Neuro surgeries coming out as bleeding edge, but last I checked most people on here haven't had those yet. I personally was looking into Deep TMS, but it's super new and expensive.
I hear you I’m the same right now you are not alone please remember that
@XMASEVE2008 Thank you so much 😔💜 I will pray for you to find peace
“Sitting with it” does not help. Our space at home in flux because of my boyfriend moving in last April. I constantly hear that the treatment for OCD is to not engage in the compulsions, but it doesn’t work AT ALL for me. I have “sat with” the disorganization in our space for months and it continually makes me feel very stressed and, in turn, depressed. There are times when I finally can make an improvement in our space to make it more comfortable and there’s a noticeable uptick in my mood and my stress goes down considerably. Isn’t there anything else I can do? This “sit with the anxiety” it bullshit for me.
Have any of you been stuck in what feels like an OCD loop? It’s like being held hostage by OCD. It’s like everything becomes a trigger. Like there isn’t a part of the day where I’m not having intrusive thoughts because it’s the only thing my brain can think about. So every conversation I’m thinking of horrible things I could say, every time I pet my dog think of things I could do to hurt her, anytime I drive I think of hitting pedestrians, every time I’m alone I think of ways I could hurt myself. It honestly feels like my brains on fire I’m starting to think I might have some kind of destructive brain tumour because I can’t comprehend how this can all be mental illness. It’s the ‘urge’ I can’t deal with it feels so real. I’ve had mental illness and likely OCD my whole life but nothing has ever made me feel as scared and hopeless as this. I’ve been having horrible migraine attacks daily for months and I think the trigger is the stress and anxiety these thoughts cause. I feel like I can never rest. It’s like my head is caught in a vice and my eye sight is constant flashes and static. Blood tests normal and two eye tests back normal. I can barely work as my whole job is computer based. I don’t even know how I would begin to do ERP because it feels like I’d have to tackle EVERYTHING about being alive! I also don’t think I have any compulsions. If I do none of them provide any relief so it’s basically just me feeling like I’m going insane every single day since October. It’s impossible to relax when my brain thinks we’re either going to die of a brain tumour or going insane and hurting myself against my will or doing something to someone else that would mean I would have to kill myself. My brain honestly believes it’s inevitable I won’t be along for much longer and it’s petrifying. I don’t know how to get better until I can reset my body to get out of this cycle. How am I supposed to move forward when my brain and body is in constant fight and flight? Does anybody relate? My brain doesn’t even believe this is OCD anymore… I guess this is reassurance but I’m having such a terrible time.
I am probably a lot older than most members on here having had ocd for over 40 years and I have had every type of ocd but its always thoughts based and mental rituals around harming people I love. . I have been doing great using self help books, and thought I had everything under control at last. I had quit worrying about it and realised I was never going to do any of the things I feared and would never ever want to. However out of the blue a few weeks ago I had a weird but horrible thought pop up, which I tried to do exposure for, by telling myself we can say anything in our heads even if its not true, as the self help books taught me. . that then started a whole new ball game as I then started bringing the horrible thoughts up on purpose and made them the worst I could for exposure , thinking it was the right thing to do but now i am feeling even worse again as by doing that I actually said the things I feared coming into my head for example:..'I could say I want ******to happen to the people i love ( then I kept repeating in my head that I wouldnt say that) I would never want anything bad to happen to them ever , they are my world and I love them more than Ive ever loved anyone. has this exposure I tried to do become a compulsion? . I seem to be constantly repeating this and then praying to keep everyone safe,,, why am i being tortured like this its as though the ocd bully is now saying ah but what if you hurt people by saying horrible things. please, please someone help me as I am really anxious and upset over this.
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