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- Isnteasy
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- 6y ago
The IOCDF had a good article on this topic: https://iocdf.org/expert-opinions/ocd-and-tourette-syndrome/
Urge to do it or you’ll lose yer mind.. that was the last part that was cut off
I don’t have that, but nOCD, can you post some content that explains more about this co-morbidity?
I don't have tourette's, but I do have tics. I only get them when my Pure O intrusive thoughts are really bad. I sort of shake my head to one side and my eyes twitch. I never noticed it until someone pointed it out while I was having particularly bad intrusive thoughts.
I have Tourette’s and OCD! They are definitely co-morbid diseases. I had very severe OCD as a child and teenager. I had about 57 different tics. I am so thankful to have outgrown most of it. I take Rispirodal (Spelling?) morning and night which has definitely made a difference.
I have heard about people with Tourette commonly having OCD (as well as ADHD). I don’t have Tourette, so is it okay if I ask what the tics for Tourette are like? I’ve seen them before but I always thought that they were completely uncontrollable? I don’t mean to be disrespectful or invade anyone’s personal space or feelings while asking this, please let me know if I’ve crossed a line!
@Sassy_Classy_Lassy You are not invading any personal space at all! I always use the blinking example. If you tried not to blink, your eye lids would start to tingle, your thoughts would revolve around that need to blink, and after a while, you would give in. Tourette’s is similar, however those feelings of needing to do something are all over the body and for some in sounds and there are often many different feelings that want to be released. For me, my main tics were needing to feel a pull in a muscle at different parts of my body. My neck, my back, both arms, my wrists, my thighs (the exact pull you feel when you bend to touch your toes) I had to feel pressure on my toes so I would walk on them (at my worst my toenails grew inward) I would have to feel my teeth scrape against the side of my tongue. (When I had braces I had holes in my tongue. Numbing medicine was my only relief) I had to cross my fingers, twitch my nose, and push my uvula down my throat. For vocal tics I had to make a “da” sound as if you were saying “dot” and flicked your tongue. I made a gulping sound and a “pa” sound as if I was saying “pop” I never said any words which is a misconception about Tourette’s. From my treatment, it was explained that you “could” hold the tic in and ride that feeling in a wave. You hold it, the feeling gets worse and worse, but then it eases. But then the wave comes back over and over again. I imagine it would go down just like with OCD treatment, but it’s so hard. My Tourette’s is almost completely gone now. I take medication still and if I miss it my urges are stronger, but I very rarely tic besides rubbing my fingers together constantly. My tics were brutal as a teenager. I would be up all night thrashing in bed and my muscles in pain. We would try to wrap my wrists up because they hurt so much but the urges would be too strong and I’d have to do the tic, no matter how much it hurt. My back is damaged from my tics as well. I have 2 degenerated discs which I was told at 16 really should be replaced but it wouldn’t be beneficial in the long run. The cortisone shots no longer work but I have a procedure done once a year where they burn the nerves. A lot of my memories are just gone from my time as a teenager. Either from the 100s of meds I tested or just my brain not wanting to remember. But my parents, my school, and the community were amazing to me and looking back it doesn’t seem possible I struggled so much when I am doing phenomenal right now.
ChipperChelsea, your story is so inspiring! Thanks for explaining everything, I think I understand the general idea of tics and Tourette’s much more clearly now. I definitely see some similarities in OCD and Tourette’s, but of course Tourette’s is much more severe than at least whatever rituals I have currently. It’s so amazing all the work you did to overcome Tourette’s, and thank you so, so much for sharing everything!
@Sassy_Classy_Lassy (your username is so fun to say ?) Of course!! Thank you! And I think it’s important to remember that some cases of Tourette’s can be more severe than OCD but OCD too has the power to be more severe than Tourette’s. Those rituals are no joke! OCD is constant mind games while Tourette’s is more physical sensations. Both can be equally exhausting, but I truly believe we all have the power to overcome it. ?
@chipper_chelsea I gotta admit your username is pretty amazing too?it’s true though! I’m glad that this app is so good at bringing people together into such a strong fighting community.?
I’ve been diagnosed with OCD but I don’t have these intrusive thoughts like everyone else...so I’m convincing myself I don’t really have OCD I struggle I guess with rOCD (and more)...I guess I always check to see if a person texted me back. I blow up the persons phone until they respond. I use to have it really bad where I had so much anxiety if I didn’t do it and so much anxiety if I did. When guys leave me....I freak out and have damn near a heart attack from panicking so much. And once I get this thought in my head whether it’s “you should’ve said this” or “he probably lied to you when he said this” or whatever there’s this feeling in my body. It’s like an uncomfortable negative vibe and that thought becomes priority. I have to do it. I have to text them and it’s hard to think of anything else. And when I do it doesn’t stop so i shouldn’t give in but sometimes I do. And if I get over that thought later another might replace it and it starts again. Anybody else feel this way...?
Obsessive-compulsive disorder, also known as the disease of doubt, has a very crippling effect on an individual's ability to function at its worst. This seems to happen especially when the individual's obsessive-compulsive disorder is thematically related to violence, sexually inappropriate thoughts or other taboo topics. When the vicious circle progresses far enough, a person no longer necessarily knows himself at all, is not sure of who they are or what they want. I believe that the background of obsessive-compulsive disorder, like the background of mental health problems in general, is a feeling of disgust and revulsion towards some thought, scenario or self. The way in which obsessive-compulsive disorder manifests itself, especially in the so-called "pure o" form, is very complex, because the individual disgust-inducing thematicity manifests itself not only in thoughts but also in the form of feelings, temptations and physical sensations. In some cases, however, this goes so far that the person's beliefs about his own integrity begin to decay and the feeling of hope and the meaning of life disappear. The idea can be clarified analogously to Nietzsche's thoughts on belief systems. As a result of obsessions and other repulsive thoughts, feelings and temptations, a person's belief system about his own integrity begins to collapse, but when the belief system collapses - the belief in that belief system itself collapses as well. When it no longer seems meaningful or possible to believe in the realization of a familiar and safe belief system, there is also no hope for anything better. So there is no longer even hope left for a meaningful whole of self, which drives a person to deep anxiety and depersonalization, which in turn begins to displace a person from social relationships and from all meaningful activities that a person is used to enjoying and creating meaning for his life based on his own complete self-concept, which is no longer felt to exist. Any thoughts or similar experiences on this?
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