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- 6y ago
No! It's a defense mechanism to counteract our irrational thoughts and worries. We didn't find them plesurable in the first place.
Not exactly. Addicts typically enjoy the action they are performing. Drugs, sex, etc. I wouldn't say ppl with OCD enjoy their compulsions.
i think it’s more of a “survival” technique
Yes Ashley, I’m the same, completely consumed by it. If feels like I’m an addict!
I read a quote recently: ‘we are all addicted to something that takes the pain away.’ I suppose we all are.
Do you think this keeps the cycle going?Obsession, relief, obsession relief, etc etc
I disagree null. An addiction doesn’t have to bring pleasure. It can bring relief. That what we seek when we are in the throes of an obsession. When I’m deep in compulsive checking, I look like and behave like someone with an addiction. I disregard others feelings, ignore what’s happening around me, and continue to do my “ritual” until I feel satisfied. My total attention is on my obsession and not the repercussions. It feels like I get a “hit” of reassurance and then I feel calm. Until the next obsession or doubt arises. Then I’m back at needing another “hit” of reassurance.
If you look at it this way, it is putting the decision back in your court. It’s giving the power of choice. Is it hard to not give in? Absolutely. Can you do it!? Hell yes you can! At the end of the day you will still have OCD, but you get to choose to give in to it or fight the urges-just like any other addiction. One day at a time.
So we are addicts! That’s an interesting concept. We need to break the addiction!
But what if you didn’t enjoy drugs, sex etc anymore and wanted to quit?
Getting over an addiction is essentially the same as fighting the urge to perform a compulsion. Depending on the form of addiction, that is.
So we are addicted to compulsions?
My mum passed away right in front of me, I held her hand etc and all I could think about was my bloody obsession. That’s how strong OCD is. Even at the funeral I was trying to seek reassurance from people. What an addiction it is!
Bless your heart! You don’t need to worry about the thoughts you had when your mom passed. There is a podcast you need to listen to called OCD stories. There is one in particular that’s explicit in nature, but the guest speaker was raw, unfiltered, and extremely honest. You need to listen because he had very intrusive thoughts when his aunt and other family members were murdered. OCD strikes the hardest when you’re stressed or dealing with traumatic situations.
Definitely, I think the brain is hooked on the only way it knows how to cope. I’m looking forward to starting CBT for some relief.
pleasurable*
But that defence mechanism brings relief? so isn’t that like a drug?
Again, no. We don't find pleasure in doing so.
I’ll have listen. What a crazy illness this is?
Can anyone who has recovered, or is beginning to recover, describe that experience for themselves? I feel like a lot of us are just living by waiting for the next time we’re gonna be triggered and that’s no way to live. Thanks❤️☺️
OCD is just another Addiction. Here is why: During the battle against OCD, working to connect the dots and through own experiences to understand what is it that we confront with and how to overcome it, I realized something about OCD, that I would like to share. If my opinion is seen fit and useful, it may help understand in a certain angle what is happening in our minds and the mindset towards recovery. OCD is just another Addiction. We humans are wired to do two things – Seek Pleasure and Avoid Pain. Both are basically one thing. To be in the Pleasurable state of existence. In short, OCD is a self-drugging behavior to avoid pain, so the brain can release the feel good chemicals. All our systems are wired for pleasure seeking and escaping the pain. When we find the pleasure or escape the pain- there is a reward- we feel good, euphoria, a relief. Our brains release the ‘Feel good chemicals- from our own brain’s pharmacy’, the neurotransmitters Dopamine, Norepinephrine, Serotonin, GABA, etc… these are the ones we develop a ‘tough love’ relationship with. Substances, like drugs and alcohol stimulate the release of our own ‘pharmacy’, BUT, not only substances do that- Reinforced Behavior does that too, more correctly, thoughts, emotions and actions that reinforce the ‘feel good’ such as gambling and love addictions, these behaviors release neurotransmitters of reward due to pleasure, are addictive and cause withdrawal when ceased. As research shown, OCD is related to childhood traumas and the resulting lack of self-love. When self-love is not around, Fear sips in. That’s just a survival mechanism. The mind say: No self-love? No pleasure? No problem, I will give you something to avoid- that will make me feel good. That thing is Fear/Anxiety- the source of pain to be avoided- so you can feel good about yourself when you managed to avoid it. OCD is just an upgraded version of anxiety, when the subconscious actually ‘Tames’ you to get that good feeling when Anxiety by itself didn’t result in self love and relaxation. This process is addicting, making sure you will ‘feel good’ many times throughout the day, keeping the ‘high’. Ever wondered why compulsions are repetitive, because the brain sees it as self-dosing, each action serves a dose, more hand washing, more doses of feel good to make the pain go away, until after 10 times- Doubt which is the measuring tool of how many doses are needed gives a temporary green light, until the next craving. That is why, Obssessions are basically just Cravings- a Call for Action- “Give me my dose of good feeling! Go and avoid this painful fear!” Have you ever wondered why other people don’t get inside that loop a person with OCD find themselves of ‘Thoughts/Feelings/Images/Urges’ Because in a same way, a non-addicted person cannot figure why an addict Craves drugs, and cannot ‘just stop with it’. OCD Obsesseions are just Craving, that’s why they come unsolicited, that’s why, certain situations flare them up, the subconscious mind finds an opportunity to get a dose and evokes an obsession to get the compulsion- the dose of feel good. Our brains are the ultimate ‘Drug Designers’, and can come with the worst fears to make you do one thing- Dose yourself with Avoidance. That is why, as suggested for drug addiction, on how to deal with cravings, perhaps one of the best things to do is just sit with it, surf the pain, watch the film the subconscious brain plays. What you see/think/feel means nothing, and nothing about you, it’s a movie played for you. A trick. Feel the urges until they pass, you are stronger than you imagine, and pain should be confronted to be defeated. Obsessions will come as cravings come, they will flare when there is a high chance to get the ‘fix’. But, with time they decrease until they disappear, because you train your subconscious mind there is NO ‘fix’ from those thoughts, stories, urges and movies.
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