- Username
- vivlola
- Date posted
- 5y ago
I think saying you can “change orientation” is flat out nonsense. I might as well say if you turn your car on you have an in increased probably of growing horns and wings. Your brain just can’t physically change from straight to gay or vise versa, as much as contracting psychopathy. That’s just fictitious babble. If this was so conversion therapies would work, but they don’t you see. Sexual orientation does NOT fluctuate over time, I have yet to see a scientific paper documenting this happening. And if it did the probability of this happening is near zero. Normally I hear this from misinformed people trying to spread some stupid agenda. If it changes that would be implying that homosexuality is a disease, which it is NOT. They say it changes like the flip of a switch, but that’s just honestly laughable. I can tell you I had HOCD, I sure as hell didn’t “turn gay” or bi or whatever. The odds of this phenomenon happening are so extremely low it’s entirely in your favor. I don’t mean to give reassurance, but it’s a straight up fact, sexual orientation DOES NOT change. It is fixed in your brain since day one. Losing your attraction does NOT mean your “sexual orientation is changing”. For instance, I adore the video game series Elder Scrolls, if for some reason lose my desire to play it, does that mean I hate the game? Absolutely not. It’s just called a decreased libido. And on a side note, most people who are bisexual figure it out WAY before their adults. There’s no evidence for this happening, and if there is, I bet it’s 100% trying to spread and agenda to make more people bi. Give me multiple papers which are unbiased documenting this, I bet nobody can give me any. Thank you, have a great day.
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I’ve heard people know from a young age, I right now have hocd, and it makes you seem gay. But how about people who are bi but turned straight, how the fuck does that happen?
@GummyDrop I’ve never heard of bi people turning straight. Unless there’s and unbiased scientific paper on that I would take it with a mountain of salt. Changing sexual orientation would take physical brain changes and grey matter gain or loss in order for that to actually happen. And ironically enough the part of the brain for sexual orientation is known to be fixed.
@TheReptileCyka How did you overcome your HOCD?
@TheReptileCyka I know who said they were bi and now their straight, you’ve got a point you will need physical changes and it’s confusing me, I heard other story’s of this too
@vivlola I went through ERP therapy for it. But I still have other OCD themes, but it takes work to get through it.
@GummyDrop I’d take those stories as fiction, did you know eyewitness testimonies and personal experiences are the worst form of evidence to bring to the table? They could lie, exaggerate, and fear monger.
@TheReptileCyka I know someone in school that told me that so.... idk I was surprised was she told me she was bi and now she’s straight
@GummyDrop No wonder where you got that from then. She was probably just labeled herself as bi because she thought it was “trendy” or “cool”.
This thread was... i knew i shouldt have clicked but i did lol. Anyway gosh all the things they say are so complicated and all and im sure that its not the case for us like its not natural at all. If it was wouldnt there be waay more people around us that would be having a sexuality switch out of nowhere. I litteraly know no one? Very technically seen it might be possible but hocd aint that deep. Its litteraly proven to be a form of hocd so dont get it twisted please its so triggeing for yourself. Embrace that its hocd so that u know its not you who keeps feeding the lies to your brain but its hocd.
I’ve just read some things that say it’s common in women and that is scary but i dont know how accurate and that just sucks for HOCD people
I believe it's entirely possible under many circumstances. i came across research papers that some antidepressants can cause a change in orientation BASED ON THE INDIVIDUALS DNA. so it's not common. also, I think women are more sexually fluid - my opinion - and I also believe that straight male prison inmates can switch orientation based on their circumstances - no available women
These comments were, extremely triggering :D
So true
Yeah this makes my hocd worse.
Yes, it is normal for sexual orientation to fluctuate over time, for instance many people do not realize their bisexual orientation until well into adulthood, and many (but not all) bi people find their attraction to the same sex waning after marriage. However, it has been well researched that ‘conversion therapy’ a particular kind of unorthodox counseling purporting to be able to change someone’s innate sexual orientation, is both ineffective and leads to further trauma and dysfunction. If you have experienced a significant change in orientation (for instance never being attracted to women and married, but suddenly losing all attraction to your husband and other men) particularly if it involves physical changes to the menstrual cycle, balding, fatigue or hot flashes, please talk to a physician (ideally endocrinologist) as this may be a symptom of underlying hormonal imbalance such as testosterone insufficiency in men and premature menopause in women, or a benign endocrine growth (I had one on a parathyroid gland which went undiagnosed for 3+ years which made me lose my sex drive for both genders and interest in my girlfriend who was still very enthusiastic and beautiful)
well at least you're laughing. I feel so bad now. one of my OCD issues is guilt over hurting people even if they are not really hurt. my therapist says I own people's emotions. not good.
don’t even worry. we’re all going through the same thing (that’s why we’re here) and u were just putting your thoughts down.
love the name btw
I wouldn’t get into a relationship until I get my shit fixed
yeah. probably shouldnt have said that. inconsiserate. I'll go back to pressure washing the driveway and stay off here.
sorry vivola
okay ya no I don’t think it’s possible for it to change but maybe for people to realize over time that they’re attracted to both and not just one gender? but I’m pretty certain it can’t just change... and for the male inmates... it doesn’t change lolll they just want something to cum in and they don’t care if it’s a man or woman because they’re literally stuck in prison, sometimes for life, and a lot of times it’s not even consensual sex.
I...wish...i never would have walked into this thread
this is the reason I quit facebook
Yeah I feel like this goes against everything HOCD people find comfort in haha
? im scared that will happen
I think your born with being gay or bi from birth, You will realize your gay or bi from a young age. I heard people who came out say they knew from a young age. I’m have hocd and this is scaring me, I’ve always liked boys and now girls gives me anxiety. This is uncomfortable
this thread just keeps growing and growing...
World War 3
fuck yeah...one simple question and boom...en fuego!!
Do you have ocd?
hell yeah. pretty bad too at times. mines many times focused on my relationship and questioning it. other times it's my health - primarily anything dealing with my happy place down below. oh, and my earlier comment about dropping Facebook. I got into a heated battle like this one time and regretted what I posted and agonized over that for weeks. klonopin calmed me down. yeah, you could say I have it.
Can we talk you seem to have interesting topic to talk about?
how about you gummydrop?
I have mother fucking hocd and little pocd and it’s sucksss
yeah. it all sucks. I had a major meltdown two weeks ago. total extreme panic attack because of an intrusive thought.
I listen to music I suggest listening to NF “the search” he also raps about ocd
I can u understand that feeling about a relationship. my SO has been right there by my side but is exhausted right now dealing with my emotional rollercoaster
Bruh, I’ve never had anyone like me before how the hell will I even get into a relationship
I'll check it out. I have a coping mechanism too. I listen to Alan Watts on YT. be was a philosopher of zen buddhism and just listening to him and his views soothe me. has nothing to do with OCD but you got to use what works for you. thanks
I listen to NF a rapper who talks about ocd
well, I think it just comes down to realizing EVERYONE has some shit that's wrong with them. being open to the possibility has to be there
Wrong? Ocd is something you choose
possibility of forming a relationship
Huh?
I didnt choose my OCD. been there since I was a little guy
Yeah, I wondering if there’s someone who can help me with my ocd in my doctors?
do u have a therapist?
No
My mom doesn’t even help, who will?
maybe a therapist. I love going to mine. helps me develop tools to manage ocd
Did you pay? I want a ocd therapist too
insurance pays
Shit I’m still young idk what to do
@GummyDrop I’m still in school
are you covered under your parents insurance?
Idk what your talking about sorry? My parents don’t speak English and I only live with my mom
This is hard I want this ocd to ? stop
What should I do?
your parents should have health insurance that would pay the therapist bill
Idk they don’t speak English and their not American but we live in California, I have a doctor that’s all
Idk what to do
@GummyDrop what language do they speak? communicate with them and you can ask about insurance or therapy
@rlr I only live with my mom, idk if she’s willing to take my to therapy she said it’s not that serious
@GummyDrop I’m sorry :/ my parents aren’t from America either and at first they were not fully on board with therapy but then after they tried it themselves and saw how beneficial it was they understood. tell her that you’re really not feeling well and you think that would help you a lot
@rlr Yeah I told her, she said talk to the teachers at school since she doesn’t understand what I’m tryna say, idk if I’ll ever talk to a ocd therapist tho, since idk if there one close to my house or have the money, should I just deal with it and accept that fact that I’ma live like this forever, and just move on with my day
@GummyDrop watching videos online of ocd therapists or specialists talking about the issues helps when u can’t go to a therapist yourself! I’m sorry she’s not understanding what you’re saying :/
@rlr This is hard I have school tomorrow and everyone seems happy
Is it normal for even straight people to question their sexuality at times? Before HOCD I was like I’m probably bi or whatever based on NOO CONCRETE EVIDENCE bc in real life I was only attracted to men and am in a stable relationship with a boy...but I got these random thoughts and they didn’t bother me as much that’s until HOCD hit :( and now I’m like NO IM STRAIGHT STOP ?
❗️ I don‘t know what is true anymore. Some say sexuality fluid and some say sexuality isn’t fluid. I googled it and some studies believe that. That triggered my HOCD. I also read that „Sexual Fluidity“ is actually also an orientation. I‘m really irritated, there are so much names and orientations, so much other opinion. If sexuality is really fluid I don‘t know what to do anymore.
I feel like my sexual orientation has changed, it truly feels like I’ll never be straight again and I’m heartbroken. I go out in public and I check if I’m attracted to the pretty girls, I start to make new female friends and I worry I like them, I look at them in ways I never did before just to “make sure”. I worry that I’ll enjoy sex and feelings with girls more and that it’ll be greater than what I have with my partner. I worry that my struggle with intimacy with my boyfriend is because I don’t like men as opposed to my insecurities and inexperience and shyness. It feels like I can’t find appeal in men anymore and even though I find no appeal in women either, my mind tells me my lack of attraction means I Need to be attracted to women. I don’t want to. I’ve had two lesbian dreams this week and it felt like I wanted it. I try to imagine myself in same sex scenarios and I get confused , it feels like I want it when at the beginning of this it just didn’t click. It feels like all my close girl friends from my past are secret crushes. It feels like my attraction to men was never real. I’m so scared and so afraid and so lost, I feel like a prisoner. It feels like my sexuality has changed, I Must be attracted to women. Although I know I love my boyfriend deeply, I now worry a women will come and take his place. I hate this. It makes me feel like my bond with my boyfriend isn’t as special , when my bond with him is what I treasure most. Almost All the best days of my life were with him and now I feel like I’ll have to give it up to be with a woman. I feel like I’m living a lie, I feel like I’m going to have to come out and be with women, my grandma will treat me differently. It feels too real, way way too real.
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