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- 28w
No anxiety?
I hate when my intrusive thoughts don’t cause anxiety because it makes me feel like they may be true. But then it causes anxiety that there is none
I hate when my intrusive thoughts don’t cause anxiety because it makes me feel like they may be true. But then it causes anxiety that there is none
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@lillie 💞 Right can’t ever just not be anxious
They don't have to cause anxiety to be considered intrusive. Also intrusive doesn't necessarily mean they're false, and non-intrusive doesn't necessarily mean they're true. Always remember that thoughts are just thoughts.
@djflorio But I feel like there has to be reason for the thoughts. I know the reason is like fear or something but it scares me that maybe that isn’t the real reason.
@Secretidentity - I understand where you're coming from, and I used to feel the same way until I learned more about how thoughts work in general. The brain is basically a thought-generating machine. It produces thousands and thousands of thoughts per day (some studies suggest that our brains produce the equivalent of 2 novels worth of thoughts every day). We don't have control over the thoughts that it randomly produces, we only have control over what we pay attention to. There is no rhyme or reason to what thoughts it produces, other than it spits out things that it has heard before, or thoughts that may be relevant to your current feelings. In other words, if you are currently anxious, your subconscious will produce more thoughts that are related to anxiety. This is all to say that the fact that the thoughts are there in the first place really doesn't mean anything about "you." Consider this: Let's say you randomly have the thought, "I want to eat a salad for lunch today." Then when it comes time for lunch, you're REALLY in the mood for pizza, not salad. So instead of getting salad, you get a pizza. Now in this scenario, the thought clearly didn't line up with what you really wanted. It didn't line up with your true desires. But you most likely wouldn't be bothered by that at all, because "I want to eat a salad" is a pretty mundane and harmless thought. You wouldn't worry about what it "means" about you. On the other hand, if you randomly have the thought, "I want to hurt someone," you might become alarmed, and try to disprove the thought. In doing so, you trigger the Ironic Process, in which the thought arises more often. In reality, the thought, "I want to hurt someone" is no different than "I want to eat a salad" in terms of its randomness. Neither of them actually mean anything about the real you, and neither of them require you to worry. I hope some of this helps.
@djflorio It did. I do appreciate. There was a sentence in there that did trigger my rocd a little bit but I feel like the triggers are good so I can learn to not let it bother me as much. I just hope one day I can beat it and feel semi normal again.
@Secretidentity - I'm going to guess that it was something to do with the "subconscious may produce thoughts based on your feelings" bit, which might have been interpreted as, "that means these thoughts about my relationship are based on me actually not wanting to be in the relationship" (or something like that). If that's the case, my apologies! But you're right, it's always good to look for ERP opportunities. At the risk of providing reassurance, that's not exactly what I meant (if that's what triggered you). It's more like, if you are anxious/worried about your relationship, thoughts about your relationship will likely arise. That doesn't make the CONTENT of the thoughts true or false, it just means there will be more of them. They're arising because that's what you care about right now. The "maybe, maybe not" response is always applicable.
@djflorio Yep you hit it on the nail that was the one. OCD is very frustrating
backdoor spike! totally normal
@unkindledhishiron What do you do about it?
@Secretidentity You just let it be and not fall for its trap. You go about your day and you live by your values.
I’ve been feeling a bit stressed lately because my intrusive thoughts aren’t causing as much anxiety as they used to. It almost feels like I’m becoming a little numb to them, and because of that, I’m able to engage with them a bit longer. I don’t feel the usual rush of anxiety to pull away, and in some strange way, I even find myself focusing on them for a few seconds, like I’m actively thinking about them. It’s really stressing me out because I feel like by not feeling that immediate discomfort or anxiety, I’m letting the thoughts stay longer or giving them more power. I feel like part of me almost wants them to be there, and I don’t know if that’s a bad sign? They don’t even feel intrusive. Has anyone else experienced this? I’m just worried that the lack of anxiety is the reason I’m interacting more with these thoughts that would normal scare me. I feel guilt about it later. I am currently withdrawing from medication so that may contribute to this but it’s not the first time I experience this :/
Suddenly I started ruminating again but I no longer get bad anxiety over the thoughts but it feels like the ‘urges’ are still there and it’s making it seem more real that these are true. Why am I having urges without the anxiety or it’s weird like i don’t even know when im anxious maybe i got use to the feeling of being anxious but it feels too real and I get these weird thought that are like ‘imagine you was evil anyways’ or ‘imagine you want to be but your in denial’ or the worst makes it feel like you would like acting on the thoughts even if you choose not to do it and it feels really real. The thoughts are about stabbing and it felt so real and I started imaging it on purpose to ‘test’ myself but it doesn’t ever feel like I hate it enough or don’t want it like I feel numb to everything and it feels really real like I want it or do want to do it but I’m just choosing not to and it’s scary but I use to get so much anxiety over this and now nothing now it feels like I don’t even feel like I ‘hate’ it or I should know that I don’t want to do that? Instead of sitting there experimenting with the thoughts to see. I want it to feel like I don’t want it and don’t like it I constantly feel like I’m lying about not wanting this, but it’s concerning me a lot because it feels so real that I like it or want it and there was one point where it felt like it was about to happen and that I wanted it and now that’s made me think there is something wrong with me or that I want to give in to it 🙁 please I don’t belive anything I don’t even belive I am sad it feels so real that it was about to happen or I wanted it and I don’t know what to do I was fine before and suddenly I started ruminating and now this
My thoughts are here but I have no anxiety. No matter what if I agree with the thoughts it doesn’t give me anxiety. If I think about how not having anxiety means that the thoughts are my truth since I’m not having anxiety. Nothing is giving me anxiety and I don’t know why but I don’t like that it’s not giving me anxiety. Is this normal?
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