- Date posted
- 5y
- Date posted
- 5y
What you’re afraid of and what people obsessing over being gay are afraid of is the same thing: that you’ll “have to be” someone that you’re not. What they’re uncomfortable with is not gay people. In fact, most people who suffer from HOCD are NOT homophobic and in fact one of the most painful parts of dealing with the theme is thinking you somehow are homophobic and therefore a bad person. Unfortunately we’re all going to trigger each other sometimes. But that’s the thing about living with OCD: recovery is about facing those triggers head on without compulsions. When someone says something triggering, note it to yourself: “okay that just triggered me and now I want to start ruminating about whether being gay is bad or not. I’m going to accept uncertainty here instead: maybe it is, maybe it isn’t. I don’t know and I don’t need to know.” Then continue going about your day as you were without using compulsions to reassure yourself. Let whatever anxiety arises just be there and leave when it’s ready.
- Date posted
- 5y
That’s true. It just feels so overwhelming lol
- Date posted
- 5y
just try to remember that these people don’t view being gay as wrong/gross, but just not in line with their identity. being gay is perfectly fine as is being straight, bi, pan, etc. I’m so sorry these posts have made you feel like who you are is wrong or gross in any way because it isn’t!
- Date posted
- 5y
Thank you, and you’re right. When you feel so defensive, it’s hard to remember that the core fear of SOOCD is the same regardless of the direction. Like pureolife said, it’s probably inevitable for people to trigger eachother just because of the nature of this app? I really appreciate your words though.
- Date posted
- 5y
It’s only a double-edged sword when you don’t have coping mechanisms and haven’t gone through therapy yet, honestly. I’m only “triggered” when I’m at a stress level between 8-10. But even then, it’s not as bad as others have it.
- Date posted
- 5y
I mean. Different things are triggering to different people. I haven’t done ocd specific therapy yet but I’ve had a steady therapist for years. I’m trying to get in contact with a dbt specialist and I’m trying to start working on erp on my own. Sometimes even if you’ve tried to create coping mechanisms certain issues are stubborn. The truth for me is that there are positive and negative aspects to spending time on this app. I want to be able to get as much good out of this as possible.
- Date posted
- 5y
@blackraspberry You’re being triggered so easily because you honestly haven’t done ERP as of yet. I had a therapist for years but that didn’t make a difference because it was talk therapy. Only when I was diagnosed and then did what was needed to do via exposure therapy with a therapist and on my own did I get to this point. I still have POCD and ROCD and it comes up every once in a while (sometimes weekly), but I know what to do in those situations and I’ve gotten my issues down to a certain point where it’s manageable. The goal is to MANAGE your OCD, and that means doing hard work— including letting your thoughts and feelings on this app be as they are and not obsess over “what if...” situations, or do compulsions.
- Date posted
- 5y
@Nica I know! That’s why I’m eager to start. I just feel like I need the help of an ocd oriented therapist to get started because dipping my toes into ERP on my own has been really overwhelming.
- Date posted
- 5y
@blackraspberry ERP is really hard to do on your own the first time without some help from a specialist. Once you go through the process with them once for a theme, it’s much easier to use what you learn on your own for future themes. And it is quite overwhelming when you do it alone! Are you seeing a specialist soon?
- Date posted
- 5y
@pureolife Also, here’s an article about self directed erp if you for some reason can’t see a specialist right now: https://iocdf.org/expert-opinions/expert-opinion-self-directed-erp/
- Date posted
- 5y
@pureolife My main therapist has helped me find a therapist that specializes in what I need and I plan on getting in touch with her tomorrow! She does telehealth video chats so hopefully I can start working with her really soon
- Date posted
- 5y
@blackraspberry Awesome! Good luck ???
- Date posted
- 5y
Yeah, I’m a lesbian too. I find it easier to empathize with straight people going through HOCD, but have thoughts & OCD telling me that being a dyke & being trans is gross and unnatural - they discourage me from doing anything having to do with my identity, including important stuff like maintaining my govt benefits, changing my govt ID documents, and going to lesbian social functions, and they even interrupt me during sex to try to shame me, make sex physically uncomfortable and stop me from enjoying myself. I *do* feel bitter that resources are directed mostly towards straight people’s needs and not towards the needs of people like us. It’s wrong.
- Date posted
- 5y
Yeah its debilitating.. on top of the self loathing I feel intense guilt that I’m so disgusted by myself (because it could hurt others in the community) so I isolate myself completely. I wish that there were more resources specifically targeted towards gays with SOOCD so that I could get through like. A single article without that article itself being a trigger LOL
- Date posted
- 5y
@blackraspberry There is at least a single article - I posted it below.
- Date posted
- 5y
Oh thank you! I’ll take a look at it
- Date posted
- 5y
And thank you for the resource!
- Date posted
- 5y
One of the mods/“advocates” here, Katie, responded to a post of mine expressing anger & frustration about the same problem by doing some digging online, and found this article: https://medium.com/s/story/my-ocd-tries-to-convince-me-im-not-queer-36ec3c1c89c9
- Date posted
- 5y
The page includes an audio recording of the article - if it’s triggering, you could listen to it as an exposure, in order to dredge up your anxiety and train yourself not to respond to it.
- Date posted
- 5y
@Vieira da $$$ilva???? I just read it and it definitely was a trigger lol. Gonna just let this pass and not dig deeper.. thank you again!
- Date posted
- 5y
@blackraspberry Oof I feel that. Yeah letting it pass is the key. Just not responding or “so what if it’s true? so what?” or even vigorously agreeing with your anxiety to let the wind out of its sails. Just let it pass.
- Date posted
- 5y
@Vieira da $$$ilva???? Yes those are some good responses to practice! For your own struggles with this, did you find that working with a therapist on this was helpful? I’ve brought it up to mine and he had the same sort of approach as the one that’s suggested for ERP like. So what if you are? Maybe you are? So what? But like it feels so monumentally shitty when another person says that to me that idk .
- Date posted
- 5y
@blackraspberry Well, I think it IS different in most situations when someone else says it to you, because it would typically be dismissing your OCD and/or your lesbianism and resistance to the heterosexual order as unimportant. Whereas when we use it against our OCD, it takes the energy *away* from the OCD, making it harder for the OCD to dominate our minds and *interfere* with being huge dykes & living our best lives. C:
- Date posted
- 5y
@Vieira da $$$ilva???? Yeah good point. Ugh all of this stuff is so complicated!! I hate it lol
- Date posted
- 5y
@blackraspberry The words are a tool, and being put to two very different uses when someone uses them to get in our way vs when we use them to stop the OCD to stop us from getting in our way.
- Date posted
- 5y
@blackraspberry Yeah ugh I hate having to do all the complicated dancing with mental disorders all the time ?
- Date posted
- 5y
@blackraspberry [wakes up] okay now in order to successfully get out of bed I have to enter the special kick combo just right okay let’s see circle-square-square-triangle-circle-circle wait no that was supposed to be a triangle [falls out of bed to the floor] damn it okay what now
- Date posted
- 5y
@Vieira da $$$ilva???? I KNOW LOL ?? it’s so frustrating I feel like I’m constantly playing chess against myself except the other me keeps cheating and changing the rules so I can never get the upper hand
- Date posted
- 5y
@Vieira da $$$ilva???? For example : I have complex rules that I Must Live By and one of them is that I need to create todo lists. However, there are specific criteria that they Must Follow so I don’t forget anything and ruin my life so I need to make them Perfect . But I can never decide what a “perfect” to-do list includes ?? #notfun
- Date posted
- 5y
@blackraspberry That sounds possibly like what the usual diagnostics call “just-right OCD” - I believe there’s a topic for it here on NOCD. & it sounds painful. :(
Related posts
- Date posted
- 21w
I have been really battling with my SO OCD, and I’ve recently started to have a ton of wins!!! I’m really excited about it, but as I’ve noticed myself not engaging as much… different things have popped up. Now im obsessed with people’s perception on me, and them looking at me and thinking by how I walk, how I talk, what I wear, how I move… that I am gay? And am so convinced everyone thinks that and “knows something that I don’t”. Is that typical with OCD? If so, any ERP advice on how to overcome these thoughts?
- Date posted
- 17w
I’ve been dealing with SOOCD for over a year now, and I have been having a very hard day today. I feel like I just need someone to talk too, my whole life I’ve always had girl crushes and always wanted to be romantic with women . Ever since I posted this picture on instagram and one person said I looked “zesty” in it , which is when I started obsessing about being gay . I feel like I put so much meaning to these thoughts where now I’m always checking how I feeling around men. I had a really bad porn addiction for a long time and bad anxiety which fucked up my sex drive. I feel like I doubt if I’m attracted to women when I know I am , but the doubt is so overbearing where I start to believe it . I never was interested in men sexually, and my ocd makes me feel like I like the thoughts even though I feel no pleasure out of it. I feel like I lost who I am as a person . It feels like I don’t even know what my sexuality is and it’s really upsetting to me . I meant this girl the other day and she is the most beautiful woman I’ve ever met and I just feel like ocd is getting in the way😭😭😭 please any advice or comments
- Date posted
- 8w
Hello, so I’ve been struggling really badly with so-ocd where I am worried that I’m not actually straight when that’s what I’ve always thought and wanted to be. I’ve been with my boyfriend for about 2.5 years now, he’s my first boyfriend and I really love him so much and want to spend the rest of my life with him. I remember one time, before I had struggles with so-ocd, I had a thought along the lines of ‘what if I’m missing out on other men by staying with him’ and it didn’t really cause any anxiety but I felt quite guilty for thinking that. But I moved on. However, right now I’m in the depths of so-ocd it started back in March I believe, and today I had a thought along the lines of ‘what if I never get the opportunity to try being with a woman because I’m in a relationship with a man’ and that has really set me off today. I’ve had a meltdown over it, my chest feels heavy and it felt so real like I actually wanted it and I had a feeling of wanting to be gay even though that’s not what I want in life. Why is this happening to me and I feel so horrible for thinking this like it felt like it was me and not the ocd and that I’m just lying to myself and my boyfriend. I’ve tried scrolling on here to see if anyone has had a similar thought or experience and I am aware that this is reassurance seeking but I just need someone to tell me that I’m okay
Be a part of the largest OCD Community
Share your thoughts so the Community can respond