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- DoIreallyHaveOCD?
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- 4y ago
You wrote this perfectly. I feel very similarly; my Pure OCD has manifested into something so hard to identify. It’s unique but not in a way that makes it easier to combat. Infact, if I were to see a therapist tomorrow, they’d probably doubt I even had it, because my obsessions constantly change and my compulsions are almost a part of me. I do them without realising, and it’s so easy for me to seek reassurance too. It’s thought after thought, and none of them are truly solved (but I understand that solving them is the problem). I can’t stick to one ‘theme’ because it always a changes. But at the end of the day, there’s still one thing that everybody with OCD can do to recover, and that’s cutting out compulsions. I just wish to be understood sometimes idk.
That was huge to me too. I think there’s a fine line between seeking reassurance and sometimes just having someone to understand the frustrating complexity of it all
Sometimes it helps to journal to get all the worries out on a page to get the anxiety up, and then once you feel anxious just stop and sit with it. Obviously this might be more helpful if you do it with a professional though.
I am glad that you’ve sorted out that your compulsions are mental. And that mental and physical compulsions actually play the same role in OCD. I think you could do some more work though to understand the difference between an obsession, trigger, intrusive thought, and compulsion. Because there are distinct differences. While the content of these might differ person to person — example: one persons compulsion may be another’s trigger — the definitions of these things stay consistent. And they have a pretty formulaic role in OCD. You likely wouldn’t trace ALL of your obsessions back to one specific trigger. And triggers don’t necessarily have to come from your environment (example: some people are triggered by a fast heart rate, which is a sensation.) It seems like you are either misunderstanding what a trigger is here or an obsession or both. These misunderstandings are very normal though, and it usually takes time in proper treatment to really make these concepts stick. The way people discuss themes can be quite confusing. People talk as if POCD and HOCD are different diagnosis when they are both the same OCD, just focused on different ideas or concepts. And while certain themes are more popular in the community, and that’s why they get a shorthand, they can look totally different from person to person.
I don’t really think I’m misunderstanding it. I understand the differences well, I’m just saying that my own intrusive thoughts act as triggers for more intrusive thoughts, obsessive thinking, and rumination, and that rumination can trigger subsequent lines of worries and ruminations, all becoming quite circular. In the end, instead of over-analyzing it all, I just realized I was engaging compulsive behavior trying to figure out EXACTLY what was happening at each stage, and instead took a step back and said to myself “oh that’s ocd cycling”, and decided to sit there with it instead of re-triggering more and more worries and more and more answer-seeking on top of it.
@DoIreallyHaveOCD? Because there are times when something triggers me, e.g. I see something on TV or social media, and it triggers obsessive doubts, but then there are times when obsessive doubts start up completely at random. It’s my minds tendency to be scanning for threats regardless of what content or triggers are in front of me.
@DoIreallyHaveOCD? Unless u can explain more about what u mean, by all means...
Exactly. My ocd is all about obsessive thinking patterns ...I feel like my day to day thinking Is constantly affected by it. But knowing that I have pure ocd really helps...I say to my self : 99% is my ocd and not me! and after 5 minutes or less of anxiety I forget even what was the theme...
It's all about trying to be detached from what you are thinking .
What are some examples of your mental exposures? I suffer from pure o as well and I’m looking for guidance in that :)
Good question— that question spurred countless hours of stress and rumination because I couldn’t figure it out. It even puzzled my therapists, and I ended up kind of steering one of my therapists to the way I use now. I think there there are resources online, but one of the main compulsive things I do is to KEEP ruminating over something, to keep re-living past events... like I’m checking and researching in my mind. So what I do is intentionally set aside time to do exposures where I lean into thoughts that I typically ruminate about, and think of worse case scenarios or whatever gets the worry engine running... then I’ll notice the urge to ruminate over it and just sit with that discomfort and continually resist the compulsion to ruminate (response prevention). Fear is urging us to think MORE to find some certainty, to answer-seek (find reassurance). One thing I ruminate about is whether I’m living the right life, so sometimes I’ll sit down and intentionally think “I may be living the wrong life, and I may regret the decisions I’ve made.” And I’ll sit with that anxiety until it lessens or if my mind trails off to something else or if I have some sort of insightful feeling. It’s like a leap of faith— you confront and listen to your worst fears without trying to reassure yourself then just wait until your body processes it in some type of way. Usually my anxiety just dies down a bit and I get bored and I say “good enough” for that go-round, then usually the perspective shift gradually sets in. I think it’s important to not do too triggering of an exposure right before bed though because that can backfire. If you want to do a really triggering one, give yourself some time in the middle of the day.
Trigger Warning My theme that I struggle with most is that I am developing schizophrenia. I wanted to share this anecdote with everyone in case someone is dealing with family/friends who do not understand what it is like to have OCD. One of the most effective ways for me to manage my OCD is to use humor to deal with it. Often times I will make jokes about it and recently a family member said, “you like having OCD, if you didn’t, you wouldn’t talk about it so much”. What he does not understand is that on the days I am able to laugh at my OCD I am so grateful because on other days all I want to do is lay in bed and worry about having schizophrenia. I didn’t know how to reply to that in the moment, but I want to say to him now is that the reason I make jokes about it is because some days it feels so real and I spend my day: Keeping track of every car in the rear view mirror to make sure that they are actually there and not hallucinations. Plugging my ears with my fingers to make sure that I am not hearing voices. Telling myself that if I have to carry a tray without dropping it to prove I do not have schizophrenia. Going over in my mind overtime I misspeak to try and figure out if it was just a mistake or if it was because I was going crazy and was speaking nonsense. Being very careful while typing because if I make a mistake it might mean I have schizophrenia. Lying in bed until five in the morning reading about schizophrenia. Thinking that if I can’t fall asleep by a certain time it means that my sleep schedule is being affected by schizophrenia. Trying to not look at any buildings where a person with schizophrenia may be treated. Constantly checking my emotions to see if I have them or if I lost them because I might have schizophrenia. Frantically searching for a sound that I heard to make sure it wasn’t a hallucination. Searching for something I may have seen out of the corner of my eye because it might have been a hallucination. Thinking that every time I have an itch it’s actually a tactile hallucination Spending hours thinking about wanting to die if I was diagnosed with schizophrenia. Putting my ear on machinery to make sure that I didn’t think that it was talking to me. Everyday looking up percentages and data and calculating them over and over again to calculate the likelihood that I will develop schizophrenia. Spend my day thinking if I actually am enjoying my activates or if I’m faking it because I actually have schizophrenia. Convincing myself that my food is poisoned because that is what a schizophrenic would think. Going over common schizophrenic delusions and checking to see if I believe them too. I am sure that a lot of people in this group struggle with this theme. Even though a lot of people think that OCD is just washing your hands a lot or organizing, know that I know how you feel and I have gotten through the worst of it.
Living with the fear of going crazy. Hey everyone, through my journey living with OCD I’ve had many different themes. The most enduring one was Harm OCD, but I would also have intermittent POCD thoughts. It wasn’t until the last few years that I developed a new theme: the fear of developing psychosis/schizophrenia. While this theme seems to be far more common, it is my experience it isn’t really noted in most of the conventional information you might find online. In all the books, websites, videos, and blogs I’ve digested, I’ve only seen it mentioned a few times. But a perusal online shows that in many OCD communities, it’s a common fear. That’s why, for those of you who are suffering or may suffer with this theme, that I find it important to share the experience openly. During the day-to-day, depending on the intensity of the obsessions, it can have a profoundly limited effect on your life. You want to avoid any scenario that might trigger the thoughts, but the avoidance leads to ever-increasing isolation. Personally, I’ve found actively participating in treatment and ERP has helped me maintain most of my regular responsibilities and habits. In the past, an OCD spike could really derail my life. And while I’m certainly dealing with more intrusive thoughts than “usual” at the moment, knowing I have the support of the community and my therapist helps me stay on course. It is without question that without treatment, my suffering would be greater than it is now. I have tools now to manage it that I never had before. It’s important to remember that no matter the theme, someone else is experiencing it. And within that theme, the particular thoughts aren’t really the issue. It’s our response and relationship to them. OCD is incredibly creative, and many with OCD tend to be reflective and conscientious people! You may have all manner of odd, strange, or disturbing thoughts. And that’s ok! Although it seems like a tired cliche, you’re never truly alone. If you have this theme, and are comfortable sharing, it can help others feel that they can be open and without judgement. I hope this has helped someone who felt isolated. Thank you!
i’m curious to see how OCD kicked in for other people. in retrospect, it’s easy for me to see times before i was diagnosed where i was obviously struggling with a theme. i’ve always been an anxious overthinker and i’d tell my friends offhandedly that my brain fixates on things for weeks at a time before it passes, but until the Big One, i was never so crippled with anxiety that it made me dysfunctional and completely disconnected. that was until my last theme hit, started by a friend who was making an innocent comment about my dating habits. it was like a bomb was set off in my brain. the anxiety was so acute i felt like vomiting. i was an insomniac for about three months. it was awful. when i stumbled across an article on OCD, i sobbed for finally having an explanation. and when i was diagnosed i told my therapist i think i lied (LMAO). so what about you guys? what was the theme that finally made you realize you had OCD and how old were you? looking back, did you recognize early signs or was it a sudden onset?
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