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- DoIreallyHaveOCD?
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- 4y ago
You wrote this perfectly. I feel very similarly; my Pure OCD has manifested into something so hard to identify. It’s unique but not in a way that makes it easier to combat. Infact, if I were to see a therapist tomorrow, they’d probably doubt I even had it, because my obsessions constantly change and my compulsions are almost a part of me. I do them without realising, and it’s so easy for me to seek reassurance too. It’s thought after thought, and none of them are truly solved (but I understand that solving them is the problem). I can’t stick to one ‘theme’ because it always a changes. But at the end of the day, there’s still one thing that everybody with OCD can do to recover, and that’s cutting out compulsions. I just wish to be understood sometimes idk.
That was huge to me too. I think there’s a fine line between seeking reassurance and sometimes just having someone to understand the frustrating complexity of it all
Sometimes it helps to journal to get all the worries out on a page to get the anxiety up, and then once you feel anxious just stop and sit with it. Obviously this might be more helpful if you do it with a professional though.
I am glad that you’ve sorted out that your compulsions are mental. And that mental and physical compulsions actually play the same role in OCD. I think you could do some more work though to understand the difference between an obsession, trigger, intrusive thought, and compulsion. Because there are distinct differences. While the content of these might differ person to person — example: one persons compulsion may be another’s trigger — the definitions of these things stay consistent. And they have a pretty formulaic role in OCD. You likely wouldn’t trace ALL of your obsessions back to one specific trigger. And triggers don’t necessarily have to come from your environment (example: some people are triggered by a fast heart rate, which is a sensation.) It seems like you are either misunderstanding what a trigger is here or an obsession or both. These misunderstandings are very normal though, and it usually takes time in proper treatment to really make these concepts stick. The way people discuss themes can be quite confusing. People talk as if POCD and HOCD are different diagnosis when they are both the same OCD, just focused on different ideas or concepts. And while certain themes are more popular in the community, and that’s why they get a shorthand, they can look totally different from person to person.
I don’t really think I’m misunderstanding it. I understand the differences well, I’m just saying that my own intrusive thoughts act as triggers for more intrusive thoughts, obsessive thinking, and rumination, and that rumination can trigger subsequent lines of worries and ruminations, all becoming quite circular. In the end, instead of over-analyzing it all, I just realized I was engaging compulsive behavior trying to figure out EXACTLY what was happening at each stage, and instead took a step back and said to myself “oh that’s ocd cycling”, and decided to sit there with it instead of re-triggering more and more worries and more and more answer-seeking on top of it.
@DoIreallyHaveOCD? Because there are times when something triggers me, e.g. I see something on TV or social media, and it triggers obsessive doubts, but then there are times when obsessive doubts start up completely at random. It’s my minds tendency to be scanning for threats regardless of what content or triggers are in front of me.
@DoIreallyHaveOCD? Unless u can explain more about what u mean, by all means...
Exactly. My ocd is all about obsessive thinking patterns ...I feel like my day to day thinking Is constantly affected by it. But knowing that I have pure ocd really helps...I say to my self : 99% is my ocd and not me! and after 5 minutes or less of anxiety I forget even what was the theme...
It's all about trying to be detached from what you are thinking .
What are some examples of your mental exposures? I suffer from pure o as well and I’m looking for guidance in that :)
Good question— that question spurred countless hours of stress and rumination because I couldn’t figure it out. It even puzzled my therapists, and I ended up kind of steering one of my therapists to the way I use now. I think there there are resources online, but one of the main compulsive things I do is to KEEP ruminating over something, to keep re-living past events... like I’m checking and researching in my mind. So what I do is intentionally set aside time to do exposures where I lean into thoughts that I typically ruminate about, and think of worse case scenarios or whatever gets the worry engine running... then I’ll notice the urge to ruminate over it and just sit with that discomfort and continually resist the compulsion to ruminate (response prevention). Fear is urging us to think MORE to find some certainty, to answer-seek (find reassurance). One thing I ruminate about is whether I’m living the right life, so sometimes I’ll sit down and intentionally think “I may be living the wrong life, and I may regret the decisions I’ve made.” And I’ll sit with that anxiety until it lessens or if my mind trails off to something else or if I have some sort of insightful feeling. It’s like a leap of faith— you confront and listen to your worst fears without trying to reassure yourself then just wait until your body processes it in some type of way. Usually my anxiety just dies down a bit and I get bored and I say “good enough” for that go-round, then usually the perspective shift gradually sets in. I think it’s important to not do too triggering of an exposure right before bed though because that can backfire. If you want to do a really triggering one, give yourself some time in the middle of the day.
It’s been a few months since I’ve been on here and I’m happy to say it’s because I am pretty much pure o, ocd free! This app really did help so much! I want to share the things that helped me get a grip on ocd. I don’t want to use the words “recover or control” because ocd is a part of our brains but it doesn’t mean it has to be a distressing part. I had my first ocd flare up in Nov and it hit me like a ton of bricks. I was crying and panicking almost every night for weeks, looking back I can’t believe I made it through the things I needed to do in life because I was a mess. But now I look at things like atleast I know what it is and how to deal with it when it comes. So here are my tips. 1. Reading about intrusive thoughts and pure o online and in books. I consumed as much knowledge about ocd as I could. 2. Starting erp therapy on my own and with a therapist. Though I do have a therapist to guide me 100% of erp is the work I put in. I would try all the recommendations of erp from accepting the thought, to making myself have the thoughts as practice, resisting compulsions, changing the way I reacted and thought about an intrusive thought, now this isn’t easy... but I did it all the time even when I felt the panic feeling and even when the ocd was strong, even when I didn’t believe it. I faked it until I made it 3. Practice is helpful, it took days of hard work especially in the first few months but that’s what I did, I considered every day, every intrusive thought as practice 4. Once I stopped the compulsions, (luckily mine weren’t very strong and I cut them off quick) I began thinking the thoughts that bothered me, and slowly added more disturbing content into my life (my ocd was harm ocd mainly) 5. I told myself that “yes that bad thought is real” and didn’t try to comfort my intrusive thought or push it away, if ocd said I was crazy and going to be locked in a facility then I agreed, I would say it in my head and sometimes out loud “yup your right ocd I’m crazy” 6. After acceptance and exposure I began working on being kinder to myself, I didn’t think that this step was crucial but it is.... ocd wants us to suffer and in a way it’s like by giving it power I wanted to suffer too, I told myself that ocd is a liar and I don’t want to suffer, it’s ok that I have ocd I accept it but now I must be gentle with myself 7. Learning to always default to these things when an intrusive thought happens, so much so that my brain does it naturally now ...a) hi ocd that’s cool but I’d rather not think about that and I continue doing what I’m doing, this is hard in the beginning but gets easier b) sure ocd I am definitely crazy but again I think I’d rather keep watching this show c) I am okay with the possibility of that happening but now is not the time for me to figure that out d) you are a liar and separate from me but thanks for the interesting thought ...8. Remembering these things: ocd is a liar, a thought isn’t sumthing u control but what u do with it is, if you don’t want to do something you won’t because of your morals and free will, this concept took me awhile to grasp but repetition is key. Almost everyone get intrusive thoughts so you aren’t unique or alone. I’ve learned through the ups and downs of erp how to combat my intrusive thoughts, how to be kinder to myself and how to change the way I think in order to live a better life. I still get an intrusive thought occasionally when I’m sticky but the way I think about the thought is so automatic now and so relaxed because of the work I’ve put in! If you are working towards erp don’t stop, keep going! I feel you, I know it’s hard and exhausting... 11 months ago I thought I was going crazy I was in the worst place of my life flash to today and it’s like I never even had ocd! You can do this I promise xx
The hardest thing about ocd treatment is to stop doing the compulsions. I have "pure O" and I do alot of mental compulsions and I've been doing them for a long time and I got used to them. I don't even need to do anything or expose myself to anything to trigger my anxiety. The thought can just pop in my head and I start getting anxious. I know I shouldn't be giving them attention or engaging in them but sometimes I feel it's too hard and I just can't resist. Can anyone give me any helpful advice?
I have pure o ocd, and I’m filling out my heirarchy but I’m struggling to understand triggers and therefore exposures. I generally just get thoughts for no reason, particularly when my mind is idle I just start scanning for potential worries, and there aren’t any specific triggers like with contamination ocd. When I have a specific worry, it just pops up - and although my compulsions are clear (rationalising, reassurance seeking). How do you build out triggers and exposures in this case? Do I need to just think about the worry without doing the compulsion?
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