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- 4y ago
- Date posted
- 4y ago
Obviously was not hurt, at least not seriously, she can't even remember what you are talking about. This is OCD and your only chance to make progress is to stop analyzing about this case and just let it go. No more reassurance from others no discussing. You can win this fight. You will never reach the point where you got the feeling that you finally got an answer and get your inner peace. OCD will always give you this feeling: only this last answer I will be fine. But this will work, if at all, only in the short term. OCD is insatiable. You have to stop and leave the topic behind.
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- 4y ago
Hey you should listen to Katie on this rather than reposting it a lot hoping for another answer. You upset her in the past with vague, guilt-ridden confessing and she didn't want to talk about it, you even recognise doing it then as a mistake. Yet you want to do the same thing again, and because your sister can't give you the reassurance you want, you want to ask your mother for it? If she said to you she didn't remember, chances are she said the same to your mother. You probably alarmed both of them by being vague and I doubt that trying to confess in more detail would be beneficial for anyone. You say it's about not wanting to hurt your sister, but this is clearly more about wanting to relieve your own suffering- which is understandable, but there is a distinction there and you need to notice it. If she remembers it when she's older, you can talk about it then, on her terms. And if she doesn't then there's nothing you can do about it. There's no way you can find out through any amount of analysis etc whether it had some traumatic impact on her. Leaving it alone is what is best for your sister's wellbeing, not to mention best for your OCD. Katie wasn't saying your intention is to harm her, but that your 'need' to confess and find out is not about looking out for her, it's about making you feel better, and in the process you can potentially harm her. You don't need to forgive yourself right now for the mountains of harm your OCD says you have done or might have done. Work on the OCD to end up in a position where you're able to integrate a more reasonable view of the issue, and then work on self compassion about whatever is left. I have literally been exactly where you are except that I *know for a fact* I screwed my sister up a bit, and she said she doesn't remember. I didn't have OCD about it at the time when I remembered it and apologised, so I was able to apologise in a way that is reasonable (not doing things like freaking out that she must hate me or piling all my guilt on her which would just alarm her or make her feel pressured). Mine still said she didn't remember. Whether she did or does or will do or not, I leave it up to her asto whether she wants to talk to me about it at any future point, and if she does, I'll again be apologetic without being self flagellating, as I can recognise my own youth etc just as much as I know she would recognise it, and I'll offer whatever amends would be appropriate considering all factors. Genuine accountability isn't about making yourself feel better or being certain that you didn't cause harm or hearing the magic words of forgiveness or even really about being forgiven by the other person or them not judging you. And it's not about desperation to be able to forgive yourself either. It's a wish to take responsibility *when and where it's appropriate and accurate* and for the other person to move forwards from it. Even if that means being disliked or judged or blamed. I've done "confessions" like the one you want to do and I've done meaningful accountable apology, I know the difference between them. You may have caused harm, yeah, it's possible. It's your OCD making that seem like the end of the world. The terror and extreme guilt you feel about that prospect isn't real life. Try to stop making your decisions on the basis that it is.
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- 4y ago
Thank you, I needed to hear this. I will try and recognize what I did as something that is no longer in my hands, but in my sister's, because I have done all I could. I'm glad you didn't hold back in this, because this is what the truth is.
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- 4y ago
You really seem to worry a lot. Maybe you should consider taking SSRI to calm down your ruminating a little. They push the rumination thoughts into the background if they work.
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- 4y ago
can=can't
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- 4y ago
Have you considered the harm you do to her by asking? This is a prime situation where you could accidentally create an inaccurate memory in her, that then causes her distress
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- 4y ago
To be clear, you questioning her actively harms her as well as yourself
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- 4y ago
@NOCD Advocate - Katie Yes, I have. That is why I dont want to bring it up to her again, I don't want her to develop a false memory but I cant think of any other way to forgive myself, i need to know shes okay
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- 4y ago
@NOCD Advocate - Katie This is still true even if you did hurt her. You pressing her to recount a memory she doesn't want to discuss would be retraumatizing. Whether you did or didn't hurt her in the past, asking her now WILL hurt her in the present
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- 4y ago
@worryqueen So you're going to find forgiveness by harming her?if that's your plan, it seems pretty clear that you're not really caring about her well-being, your driven by seeking relief for yourself
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- 4y ago
@NOCD Advocate - Katie No, I dont want to harm her. Please dont assume that I do, I'm just saying that I dont know another way I can forgive myself. I dont plan on talking to her about it, but I'm trying to find another solution for this problem.
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- 4y ago
@worryqueen If you assume it's OCD, what is the long term solution? I'm pretty sure you already know, you just don't like the answer (which is understandable, because the answer feels pretty awful)
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- 4y ago
@NOCD Advocate - Katie What do you think the answer is? Acceptance or forgiveness?
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- 4y ago
@worryqueen Acceptance that you might've harmed her and then moving on with life. The more you do normal life things, the more you demonstrate to your brain that this issue isn't as big a deal asit feels right now
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- 4y ago
This is not ought to be reassurance but as know the nature of OCD i'm quite sure that this was a minor incident. Nothing to discuss further. Furthermore in the case you simply can't resist asking her, tell her that this is an OCD driven question and deep in your heart also know that this a silly and unnecessary question. This will help your sister to see this nagging of you in the right context and is nothing to take serious so she is less likely to take harm from this. Still you should consider taking SSRI.
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- 24w ago
I remembered something I did a couple of months ago that has changed me completely from trusting myself it was a conversation I had with my cousin and something they said unrelated made me remember this happening, I went into a full blown identity crisis i couldn’t walk out of my room or get out of my bed for months paranoid and scared of everything I’m still scared and feel like I don’t even deserve to shower I’m working on it slowly each day but I knew I had to get a therapist and I was diagnosed with ocd because of this event I remembered, and I just don’t know what to do…. I read online that it doesn’t matter how little or bad the event is it’s still ocd regardless when diagnosed but I know I have a compulsion to see others real events and it is nothing compared to mine which I shouldn’t compare but it’s difficult because no matter what I have to come to terms that it’s undeniably bad legally and morally what I did and it’s just so confusing how it’s something I JUST learned about months ago I’m literally in my mid 20s, and I went years without even realizing how troubled my childhood was and yes my real event happened during that time but I was still a teen and old enough to know better but I didn’t understand the magnitude of what I did at the time still no excuse though, this is where I don’t know what To do because 1. I already know what I did was awful and there’s no excuse for it 2. I can’t apologize in my situation that I don’t feel comfortable sharing specifics yet3. Yes I know I changed so much obviously I’m a grown adult now I know what’s appropriate and what’s not that’s why I’m so troubled over this and I never did anything like that again, I’m literally in the happiest relationship and seeing a therapist to also help me understand all this trauma, this event involved my cousin but even they are cool with me and very close as well hasn’t said anything I don’t know if they remember or not but it’s not something I can talk about with them at least not yet (again just don’t want to go in to specifics) but this is why is so confusing and has caused me to have intrusive thoughts about everything EVERYTHING the what ifs what if they remember what if I go to jail what if they hate me what if I’m denying who I have been and I’m this horrible person this whole time without even realizing and everything is a lie my relationship my joy for things what if I’m a ped, what if I can’t love or care what if I’m a person who just harms others manipulates I even spiraled thinking I was going to physically harm someone… it’s very bizarre to me because before my OCD my biggest anxiety was just having to learn how to drive…I’m in my 20s just to mention that again😭 I have probably almost all intrusive ocd categories, These thoughts never existed in my head until I remembered my event it has completely traumatized me but do I even deserve to feel better do I deserve to get help if I did something unforgivable do I move on or don’t? Should I even be living life I just feel guilty even breathing stepping outside I know for a fact if people knew they would never trust me they would feel like I probably should go to jail but do I go on to what others feel or myself? I know I wouldn’t harm anyone regardless of what my ocd tells me I never did anything like that again and wouldn’t but if it’s something that even legally I could be punished for does all of that not matter? I’m sorry I’m just trying to figure out what the right thing to do is , I’m continuing therapy and getting the help but obviously my therapist cannot say if I should be punished legally but even my boyfriend said that if I turned myself in they wouldn’t even take me seriously because I don’t even remember everything fully it was so long ago, but from what I do remember it’s still bad enough mainly just of me being a teen, I don’t want to make that event my identity but I just am so freaked out I feel awful what if I caused trauma to another person and all these years I didn’t even know, this event only happened once that I remember, there were things that happened to me as a child that would explain why it happened but it’s still not an excuse, I did a compulsion and googled what would it be called or the charges for it and the words that popped up triggered me to my core as anyone would feel if they were as stupid as me those words I googled are what monsters are so it’s hard not to think of myself as that it’s hard to not make that my identity if that IS what happened, is living with this guilt my punishment?I don’t want to give up on life I want to love and care and just love life I know this is complicated and a lot not much I can do but I’m just so lost.
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- 23w ago
Hi there I talk about religion (but I'm not trying to force it down anyone's throat) So my main event (which is the one that truly bothers me) happened in 2015 when I was 14. I won't go into any details or anything. I will say that it got so bad once that I almost committed something detrimental to my health earlier this year. Not long after that I spoke to a doctor and basically confessed what's been happening to my brain and my mistakes, he mentioned things that really resonated with me, I'll paraphrase a bit: "Okay, so what you did was not good but it's not something to condemn yourself for. It falls into the grey area, you've apologized and have been forgiven (even though I apologized over text, which comes across cowardly)but it seems that you haven't forgiven yourself. There's a whole lot of difference between you at 14 and you at 23. Try to have some perspective." This really helped and it still does, but unfortunately ocd tries to find a way around this. I'll get a thought of "oh but you forgot to mention that other part of the event" and it magnifies it. Can anyone relate? I've done everything but fully move on because I sometimes feel like I don't deserve to move on. And I'm still worried over the future.
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- 11w ago
I am really worried that I may have SA'ed my little sister. When we were very young, and I mean, really, really young, I was 5 I think. I used to kiss my sister, because I was curious and my mom caught us and she told me not to do it again and I didn't. But when I was about 11 she felt on my lap and I liked the sensation so I tried to rub myself against her. I tried to take my life because of this, I did therapy and everyone, including my sister, told me that I was just a child, and my sister admitted to having done similar things and she said "Would you blame me?" and I said no because she was a child and barely understood what was happening. My therapist said that I mimicked adult behaviors when I kissed her but she was so young, like barely 4 years old and I feel sick to my stomach and I just want to die.
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