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Thank you so much for sharing your vulnerability!! Obviously this is OCD at its finest. The way it convinces us to just follow what it says is so hard to resist! There is a subset of OCD I recently discovered called “Transformation OCD”, which is the fear of transforming into something else. I think this kind of OCD likes to convince us that we’ll get what we want (or don’t want, it just depends), but at a cost (i.e. “you’ll turn into X”). Just know that you’re not alone with these thoughts! Even if you did have feelings of superiority, you also have a set of values that guide how you want to be!
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That’s so interesting, thank you for telling me that! I really appreciate it. And you’re right, my values can guide me more than my thoughts :)
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@garden Exactly! For my ERP, I find it helpful to just allow all my thoughts, feelings, attitudes, etc to just exist. I know they aren’t permanent fixtures in who I am. Just like they aren’t in you. Let the superiority thoughts just hang out if you can! And maybe that’ll inspire your mind to see them as just thoughts and not real threats, eventually receeding into the background. Sending you support and courage!
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Sure, maybe at some point you will genuinely have thoughts that you're a better person than them because of being attractive but not mean. Makes sense, feeling smug at times is part of the human condition, not some kind of mortal sin. So is you judging these girls without knowing them as whole people, simultaneously idealising and devaluing them, just like your friends are also doing. I think there is a difference between having a conceited or judgmental or mean or self-adulating thought or opinion, and having a serious personality disorder. Idk, you're mistakenly assuming that losing weight would magically alleviate all your feelings of anxiety and shame and turn you into a different person. You want to have an asset which these girls have, but are scared of it at the same time. Seems far more likely to me that losing weight would result in you just spending more time checking your mind for potentially "immoral" thoughts and judging yourself for them, rather than ending in you becoming Hitler-esque and losing any sense of morality and conscience. It's like you think losing weight is going to give you self esteem even though the moment you have a positive thought about yourself, you trample all over it, and aren't doing ERP treatment that changes the trampling behaviour. :( I've been both obese and anorexic and I can assure you that there was no difference in my self esteem to speak of, focusing on looks is a total red herring. It's normal to want to feel worthy, but changing how you look in an attempt to make yourself good enough isn't *actually* going to make you feel worthy and get more confident. Sounds like for you ultimately the idea of developing any self esteem is a threat, due to it being so shame-triggering. That's where you're really stuck. But it's not actually a choice here between either a life of shame&misery or one of concern-free confidence. Recovering from OCD doesn't switch off your conscience. The world isn't split into doormats and narcissists. Nobody is superior to anybody else. Nobody. Try to work on self compassion instead of self esteem. Self compassion is tolerance of and kindness towards yourself in all situations, it isn't dependent on being good enough, attractive, getting things right, being loved or noticed and not judged by others etc.
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It’s funny cause that’s exactly what I didn’t want to be told. But it’s what I needed to be told. I’m just sick of being embarrassed of my body when I go out. I’m sick of wearing hoodies in summer. I’m sick of wanting to starve myself when I know there’s a heatwave coming because I’m currently scared to wear bikinis. I just want to be prettier. And I know that self compassion will free me of these things, but I’m just so set on the idea that with change comes happiness. Which is silly! I know it is. And everything you’ve told me proves it is. But I still believe it. I’ve told myself that maybe if I just lost some stomach weight and stop there, it’ll be fine. I’ll still not be the thinnest girl, but I’ll be able to wear tops and trousers I like. But at the end of the day, I feel like no matter what I do, I’m committing to my compulsions. I’m just scared. Really scared. Thank you for pointing out that not everything is proof I’m a narcissist. And whilst I do believe that, I also don’t. I always say I feel doomed, because I do. And ERP is something I’m not willing to try right now... which, again, is stupid because I know it’s vital. I love my family. I love some friends. I’m kind to strangers and all in all, I know deep down I’m not evil. But I still have this over riding fear. Something I just can’t disprove. I hope you don’t think I haven’t taken in what you’ve said. Because I have. And it’s something I’ve thought about before. It just seems so unattainable :(
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