I got really triggered by reading on a vegan page on Instagram. It said killing animals is nicer and immoral. And as long as man massacres animals they will kill each other and cannot feel joy or love. I gotten even more triggered and confused when I went to the comments. Some said it was wrong to eat meat then others said it was natural. One comment scared me saying McDonald's has human meat in their food.... My harm thoughts are up by a ton. I'd never hurt my pets or family....I can't take these thoughts..

Harm OCD

Carl Cornett

Date posted: 4y

There’s a philosophical debate about the ethics of meat eating vs. not. Personally, I’ve done both. I was vegan for about six years. I now intermittently eat meat, while also having vegan or vegetarian meals. Most of the debate seems to circle around the nature of personhood or sentience, and whether a conscious living thing, irrespective of species, has an intrinsic right to a natural life. I think there’s a compelling moral argument that eating meat isn’t ethically justifiable given our large scale access to food in the developed world. In developing nations where people exist off subsistence farming, I think it’s hard to tell them that going vegan is the ethical choice given their already limited nutritional options. I’ve felt great, physically, on either “diet”. My slow shift out of veganism started because of a shift in my professional life. I started traveling and it became untenable to eat a healthy vegan diet given the often limited options when you’re traveling. Does that mean that maybe I could be making a morally better choice? Sure. But any compassionate or adult reading of human nature doesn’t insist on moral perfection.

Makki23

Date posted: 4y

I kinda get what you mean. I just don't know what descion to make....

Carl Cornett

Date posted: 4y

@Makki23 You don’t need to know now!

Makki23

Date posted: 4y

@NOCD Advocate - Carl Cornett I know, but it's one of the things my thoughts are centered around

Ben84

Date posted: 4y

You can find just about anything online.

Makki23

Date posted: 4y

I'm just conflicted on what to believe

Ben84

Date posted: 4y

@Makki23 I can relate. I have mixed feelings about eating meat too. Do you know any vegans in your life (not including people online)?

Makki23

Date posted: 4y

@Ben84 I don't know anyone in real life

Makki23

Date posted: 4y

@Ben84 Or online really

Ben84

Date posted: 4y

@Makki23 I suppose like South Dakota, there aren't a lot of vegans in Kansas ☺. Keep in mind most people who come to the conclusion of becoming vegan still manage to live happily in the world. Even in slave-owning times, abolitionists still found a way to live in their communities and influence them. I suspect OCD is making this moral choice much heavier than it needs to be.

Makki23

Date posted: 4y

@Ben84 It really is, I don't know what to do far as this

Makki23

Date posted: 4y

@Ben84 I don't want to make the wrong choice

Ben84

Date posted: 4y

@Makki23 There's a very strong sustainability argument for simply eating less meat. What if you started there?

Makki23

Date posted: 4y

@Ben84 Maybe...what's the argument?

Ben84

Date posted: 4y

@Makki23 I gave answer, but then deleted it because you seem to be really struggling today. There's a time to discuss this issue, but today doesn't seem like a good time. OCD, rather than morality, seems to be driving the bus right now. You have less than one week till that appointment ☺. I believe in you!

Makki23

Date posted: 4y

@Ben84 I'm sorry, but thank you♥️

Ben84

Date posted: 4y

@Makki23 No need to apologize. I just care about you ☺.

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