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Wow, friend. That’s rough. So, you moved out of the room because of his presumptive COVID. OCD kept you out longer than you’d intended. You faced the fears, and got back in the room and have been sleeping in there a month. Now, you’re realizing all the non-OCD perks of sleeping in the other room. You want to move back into the other room so you’ll get quality rest. Moving back into the other room feels like “giving in” to OCD at worst, and maybe giving OCD opportunity to grow at least (since sleeping in a separate room has historically led to avoiding contact with your husband). Do I understand the situation?
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You do! Except I made the mistake of saying end of July. I meant end of August. So this is my second week back in the room. I spoke with him this morning about it and he said he likes having me in the room. Thing is I also go up there at 10 pm and he says he'll be up shortly but doesnt come in till 1 am because he plays video games after I go to bed. So I'm like "you like me in the room? But what do you get out of it between 1 am and 7:30 when I get up for work?" So really I fell asleep after 1 when he came in last night and then got treated to the lovely experience of three night terrors. Oy vey.
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@catattak Gotcha! You want: Uninterrupted sleep Keep OCD in check Meaningful before-sleep time w/husband *if* you stay in the bedroom Husband wants: Your nearby presence Are there any solutions where y’all could meet in the middle?
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@Alyosha I've been thinking about just joining him on weekends and getting my lush me time during the week. I'm afraid it's a slippery slope to just staying in the spare room though. Which again, to me sounds fantastic (which is why its slippery, I love that bedroom). But I want to be supportive for him and also get the sense there is a stigma around sleeping in separate rooms (that I clearly dont understand because I think it's awesome haha)
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@catattak Haha!! I’m not married, but am a light sleeper. I’ve wondered if I could handle sleeping in the same bed with someone, or if every move and sound would wake me up. (Currently sleep deprived this morning because my sister’s alarm woke me up sooner than I intended. She’s in the next room over and I sleep with foam earplugs. Still wakes me up.) A few thoughts: 1) you & your hubby know what OCD looks like. You can both keep an eye out for avoidance behaviors in your part if you’re worried sleeping separately will make you slip 2) this is *your* marriage, not everybody else’s. You and your hubby need to do what is best for each of you, and who cares what society thinks. My two cents lol
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@Alyosha Thank you for talking this out with me! I'm a light sleeper too and you get used to it. If it weren't for the night terrors, I dont think I'd be trying to move out. I can sense the master bedroom makes me anxious germ wise. I hate touching the shared doorknob and light switch, I feel like the sheets are grimey (physically i feel that even though it's not true). We also have a portable air conditioner that I feel breeds bacteria and just blows germs all around the room. The room provides so much ERP that I was handling well and I think was helping me improve. It's just these damn night terrors that add to my overall stress and anxiety.
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@catattak Wow. That sounds very triggering, lol. Well hey—you can still touch the switches and doorknobs, lie in the sheets, and sit in front of the gross AC. Do that 15min every night before you go to your room, and you’ll still get some great ERP in lol.
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@Alyosha Ooohhh that's even worse because I will have to bring those germs to my sacred safe bed.....hmmmmm
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@catattak Haha! Right?? Maybe start small. Touch light switches, then go to the Sacred Room w/o washing?
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@Alyosha I think I could maybe go into the master after work for a bit then not wash and sit in it for a bit then work up to going straight from the master to the spare.
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I sleep in a different room from my husband. His sleep apnea keeps me up all night, and without sleep, I am even more stressed than usual. I do wish we could sleep in same bed sometimes, but I also really like having my own space at the end of the day. So I guess I'm saying, I get it. The weekend plan could be a solution for you guys.
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Yes! He has sleep apnea which actually causes his terrors. He used to have them multiple times every night before he got his cpap machine! Last night when he had one he pulled the whole machine crashing down on his head. Ugh. So much sleep disturbance and honestly it terrifies me too. I just think I also gain valuable ERP from sleeping in the same room as him. So I need to determine if I value ERP or relaxation and sleep more.
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Yeah, that's tricky. Could you spend more time with him as ERP at other times during the day?
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Something I will have to explore for sure I think. Right now we sit on opposite ends of the couch at night. May need to cozy up before bed and the depart to my beloved double bed all to myself
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My ocd has been at an extreme all time high the past 2 weeks and I am in dire need of some relief. I’m not sleeping right anymore. for context: I live in the south and found a springtail on my sheets about 2 weeks ago. This was like 2 days before our bug guy came and sprayed (it’s a normal maintenance thing here) so it’s a common bug down here and I’ve found them all over different areas of the house before. Finding it in my bed sent me on a bit of a spiral bc I started to doubt if it even was a springtail and that i was wrong and that it was a bed bug, not trusting my brain. It was a bad, sleepless night and carried over continuing feelings. Typical ocd stuff. Well two days later, I’m a nurse and I had a patient that actually had bed bugs. This wasn’t the first day they were here and I did not see any myself but it still freaked me out. There had one 2 founds after visitors came the day before. Of course I wore PPE in the room (coveralls shoe covers and hair net) going in and took everything off before exiting the room. When I came home I stripped in my garage and bagged everything down to my shoes. Threw everything in the wash and did multiple cycles. There were no other steps I could take but I still had a terrible night. Hours of ruminating and going back and forth about tracing my tracks, thinking of new ways I could’ve taken one home with me. Just checking everything. I was already on a spiral from the springtail. Having two such back to back triggering events for me so closely related has made me deteriorate significantly. I was already doing bad with my normal OCD and starting therapy here. I obsess over the thought of having bedbugs constantly and haven’t been able to sleep. I am constantly checking my bed while in it and can’t settle down. My bed is heavy too and I keep hurting myself lifting my mattress to check. But I need to check. I’ve become obsessed. I check everything and go down Reddit rabbit holes looking for new things. And of course, I talk myself into it every time. I can’t take it anymore, it’s bleeding off into other parts of my life like friendship and marriage because I am so high anxiety right now. I need relief so bad. I’ve never felt this unstable to be honest. I feel like even someone without ocd would be really struggling with this topic, nevermind me, with ocd to a point where I just started treatment. These aren’t even my normal intrusive thoughts and compulsive acts. It’s just taken on a life in the last week and I can’t find any sign that it’s going to slow down. when I think rationally I know I did everything right to prevent but I can’t shake it. 💔
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My husband told me recently he was going to hang out with a local friend he often goes to see. It got very late and I heard nothing from him. Tried calling and texting. Stayed up all night thinking maybe he was dead or injured. Logged into our cell phone account to see if I could find any recent location and discovered he had talked to someone on the phone that night but he was like 2 hours away from home at that time. And also saw a phone number he was spending hours on the phone with every day. I had been confronting him about his secrecy prior to that and he kept telling me it was this friend or that friend, or he was just taking the dog on a long walk or having a fire out back. He finally called me back in the morning and I yelled at him. He told me he was randomly with two friends from longer ago and had gotten drunk and passed out, and hadn't told me about these plans because I had a heart surgery a few weeks prior and health concerns and he didn't want to stress me out. He told me the phone number was a girl that he related to on trauma factors and that he views like a little sister. He said he didn't tell me because he was caught up in his trauma spilling of events he didn't share with a single person since they occurred to him 35 years ago, due to feelings of shame and anger, and that he thought I would view it as emotional cheating. I told him it really could be viewed as emotional cheating and in principle, honesty shouldn't be dependent upon the outcome... lying isn't justified because I would be upset by the truth. Since then, he's been more open with me and tells me when that girl is calling, talks to me about their conversations, answers her calls when I'm present. I talked to him about boundaries and things I'm uncomfortable with or bothered by and he changes those things. Especially because I have trauma from an emotionally abusive ex, having him lie to me when I directly questioned him about what I was perceiving or experiencing and telling me those experiences weren't real, when they actually WERE real, has really messed me up. Now when he wants to hang out with a friend, I don't trust it. But I'm handling these feelings in destructive OCD ways. I spend literally the entire time he's gone thinking and thinking and thinking about what if he's lying or what he might be doing instead of what he said. I call and text him intermittently and feel like all of my obsessive thoughts are confirmed if he doesn't answer right away. I'm always checking the phone history. The driving toll history. Scrutinizing everything. I cannot get out of this mindset. It's like this horrible mixture of emotional flashbacks and OCD. I don't want to live like this. I want to work on my relationship in productive ways. I want to be able to use my own time while my husband is gone. Even if he lied to me and is somewhere other than he said, I don't want to lie in bed just thinking and thinking and thinking for entire days and nights. I'm not sure what I'm really asking here. This is just the only place where I feel like I can share this without people thinking "wow she's crazy".
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TW: mice/rodents; contamination/virus; feeling unsafe in my home Hello, I'm new to the community, and new to OCD at 42 years old. My OCD is about contagion but specifically around mice and a virus some of them carry (hantavirus). For background, my husband and I have been in our house for a little over 10 years, and in all that time, there have been mice coming in and out through what we've discovered are chew-holes in the sill plate where the house frame sits on the foundation. Mice are gross, but we never saw evidence of them in the actual living spaces (only attics and cellar), and I was okay knowing they were there. I was a new mom when COVID hit, and the anxiety over that ratcheted up my general anxiety, which was never awful but definitely had me thinking more about contamination and contagion in a big way. Two years ago, I found mouse poop in the upstairs where the bedrooms are, got some traps, never caught anything, and then ended up actually SEEING a mouse come out from behind the toilet. It went back into the wall before we could catch it. After that, I got steel wool and expanding foam and plugged up EVERY hole in the house--mostly pipe holes for the radiators, toilets, sinks, etc. And I was still OK. Then, two months ago, I was in the cellar doing laundry and I saw a larger-than-usual dropping, bigger than mouse OR rat droppings, I thought, sitting on top of the dryer. I was like...hm, that's strange. I mentioned it to my Discord writing group, most of whom live in the Midwest (this will become relevant), and one of them said "oh, you have to be careful with mice, they carry Hantavirus. My husband had it a couple of years ago and it was really scary." I didn't know what hantavirus is, so I looked it up and found out you can contract it through breathing/contact with mouse poop, urine and saliva. The sickness that results from hantavirus has a 40% mortality rate, which scares the heck out of me b/c that's really high. Further research told me that the CDC started tracking Hantavirus in 1993. Between then and 2022, the latest of their available data, there have been fewer than 900 cases in the entire US; 96% of those cases were west of the Mississippi, and there has been in that time only ONE confirmed case in the state where I live. So, objectively, the risk of me or my family contracting this virus from our local mice is low. And I wouldn't think about it at all, except that there are still mice in the house. We've had a pest company setting and managing traps this whole time; recently they also came to plug the existing holes in the foundation, but they keep finding mice in their traps and they found a new chew hole near one of the cellar windows this week. We're working on a more aggressive solution (1/4" hardware cloth over the places where they're getting in), but it's slow going and in the meantime, there's still the risk of coming into contact with mouse stuff. But my brain has ballooned this into something so much bigger than that. I'm washing my hands so much that they're starting to crack and bleed and the skin feels tight. I'm afraid to go in the cellar to do laundry, because that's where the mice are. My husband has no problem going down in the cellar, which means I'm afraid to touch things around the house because what if he touched something with mouse virus on his hands? And even though I've plugged up all the holes where mice could get into the living spaces, I'm still obsessively afraid of every single surface--what if a mouse touched it? Ran across it? Peed on it? Even though I don't see mouse droppings in any of our living spaces, nor evidence of them chewing anything, I'm still losing my mind with fear. And although I've heard that folks with contamination OCD typically clean a LOT, I'm afraid to clean because what if I move the mess (we both have full time jobs and a 6 year old, so cleaning isn't always top priority) and I find mouse poop under there? This is an absolute nightmare. I hate not feeling safe in my own home. And I'm frustrated because I was FINE for so long...I don't know where this OCD suddenly came from, but it went 0 to 100 almost overnight. My loved ones are concerned and want to be supportive, but they're also not afraid and have never experienced anxiety nor OCD, so their "helpful" advice is usually along the lines of "can't you just decide to be afraid and do it anyway" or "have you tried not feeling this way"? I know this is a weirdly specific OCD but that's my story. I've been working with a therapist now for a few weeks but her breathing techniques, while somewhat helpful, aren't enough, so I need to have a talk with her about what comes next for treatment. Thanks to OCD, my world feels like it keeps getting smaller and smaller. I want to just find a tiny chair where I can sit and not move and not touch anything until all the bad stuff goes away...but I know that's not realistic, nor is is healthy. I'm just...exhausted, and frustrated, and scared, and really hopeful that I can find a way through this.
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