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stop reading these articles without any basis, this can also become a compulsion. Making erp is the best thing and will help you deal with it, don't give up, you can do it!!
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Thank you! I’m confused because i thought reading articles that scare you and agreeing with the thoughts was exposure, or that was what I was told to do
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It’s so hard honestly- sometimes I feel like there is no light at the end of the tunnel
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My daughter did this. She is 12 and for the past 4 months she has been has hocd . Sometimes it feels like HOCD- sometimes it doesn’t. She watched a show where the woman was in a relationship with a man and then she later realized she was a lesbian - and now my daughter thinks that’s going to be here
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Sorry she is struggling too. Sometimes it does feel very real, for my therapy I was supposed to agree and say I am gay when I get the thoughts and then do nothing and the anxiety is supposed to lessen eventually. Has she done therapy yet? For me it is so scary because I am engaged and happy most of the time until ocd makes me question everything
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She is questioning herself atleast 8-10 times a day while still thinking about her male crushes. She says she knows she has male crushes but she doesn’t know what she wants to do when she grows up . Be with a man or a woman. Up until 4 months ago it was just the opposite sex she was liking. She questions the girls she looks at in public too- wondering if she is checking out their body , trying to flirt with them.
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I hope her ocd gets better, I’m sorry she’s going through that. I am similar as I have always had male crushes and question myself daily, it is so hard but the exposure seems to help.
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Hi really sorry to hear about your daughter. Hocd is vicious and has taken over people's lives. The urge to check is strong so please please there maybe healthier ways to cope with this. Also tell your daughter if she doesn't want to be with a woman , she wont be simple. These women who have come out as lesbians later on, knew for sure and most importantly were happy to.
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She is so confused she is like I don’t know anymore. She said “she wants to be gay “. How can someone “want” to be gay
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Ask her to write her thoughts down .
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Also if she can , everytime she gets a Thought ask her to chant Hare Krishna Maha Mantra. 108 times every morning . It goes like Hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare Rama hare rama rama rama hare hare . This 108 times , everyday. You can google this also if you want .
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@Anonymous Thank you I will
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@Anonymous Are you of Indian descent ?
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Can HOCD make you feel like you want to “turn homosexual “ ? She keeps saying that she wants to be in the position of being “gay”? How can you want to be gay ? Some days she gets uncomfortable with the fact of being around a woman and then some days she says “my brain is telling me I need to be gay “
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That is her brain wanting to check whether she is which is why her brain is telling her to test it out. That would backfire dangerously. Please tell her to not give in to the thoughts. Thoughts that feel good really don't pressure you to do something . I think that is what my perspective is
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OCD is vicious and it's not about homosexuality . OCD will take anything that you love and are attached to and it will make you question that. I remember when I was her age or a little younger , I used to ask everyone whether Ghosts exist or not . Everyone I met the same question. It became obsession. So do ghosts exists , I don't know maybe they do maybe they don't. I am not going to go to a haunted house and find out.
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Hope this example helps , the need for absolute certainty is what OCD wants. A young girl like her should not worry about these things , I feel really bad that at her age she is facing this . I hope she understands that wherever she is most happy she gets there also please let her know she's not alone and make her chant that mantra it will help her. I can guarantee.
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I will def do that . Are you a victim or HOCD ?
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I am recovering from it yes
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I try not to talk about it everyday it’s hard
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No you need to get it out , otherwise the more she or both of you surpress it stays in the head and gets worse. Let it out.
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@Anonymous How can I let it out ? Do I talk to her about it everyday ? I feel like that bothers her even more and more
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@rachel1219 Just ask her about her feelings and if she's feeling bad ask her to write it down in front of you. No need to analyse what how when . Just write it down.
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Also I might add which may to believe rhis might be HOCD is that she keeps her self busy all day long - doing school work , homework, etc etc - in order to not have these thoughts . She says she does stuff to make her happy so she doesn’t need to have these thoughts. Usually sexuality thoughts are suppose to make you happy I believe
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Yes and let it develop naturally.Shes too young . If she loves men she will naturally gravitate towards them if it's the other wise it will. Anyhow she will be who she wants to be
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Ok. She has only had male crushes- so it’s hard to see her be with a female now. How old were you when you started having symptoms for HOCD
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20+ I had a dream which triggered me
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Ok . She saw a video on TikTok
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And went spiraling down
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And she gets same sex dreams now - and has intrusive thoughts about every good looking woman on the street and checks them out
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Ohhh yeah tell her it's normal .
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Any woman remotely pretty you begin to check why did I think that , do I want to be with her etc
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@Anonymous Should I show her more pretty women then ?
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@rachel1219 That is erp should be done via a therapist .
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Ok . So when she talks to me about her thoughts I should tell her it’s normal
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Just listen to her , don't label it as anything . Ask her how does this thought make her feel and how does she want to respond to it.
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The key is to make her , aware of the thought pattern.
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Ok
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Got it
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I will do that
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She did mention once in between October and now ... there was this one day she said “I know I’m a heterosexual but the curiousity bothers me so that’s why I just want to grow up and date and figure out what I want “
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Ok ... If the thought feels good to her then alright , but if it doesn't then it's not true.
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What thought ? Being heterosexual? Or the curiousity ? Can you please elaborate?
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Like she mentioned that she knows her sexuality but she can't help but try out when she grows up . That thought
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Oh I couldn’t Gauge if it made it her feel good or not . It was a statement but she seemed like she had rhis desperate need to find out
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I also believe as women we have a little bit of bisexuality in us. I am 37 and I can say I check out women and comment if they are hot Vs not . Etc etc. so for us there is certainly a spectrum of sexuality
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But she gets so worried sometimes so worried
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If thoughts are worrying her , then ask her what is her response. Does she want to check , ruminate or Isolate herself. Ask her what is her response ?
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@Anonymous What is ruminate ?
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She said rhis to me “my brain has officially decided I’m gay but I haven’t ... but I’m scared because I am not a confident person”. — all the articles I read - kids know from a very very young age and they don’t carry guilt from having same sex crushes .
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See we all appreciate beauty , you need not be bisexual for that. It's what you like and thats it . If you feel good with men , good women good or both good .
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True
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I ageee
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And this age is crazy
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She is 12
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Like filled with hormones
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Doesn’t know how to handle I feel
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And then on top of this ocd of her sexual orientation
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Exactly she's too young , I mean has she even dated or liked a guy prosperly? Tell her to enjoy herself 😁. Anything she needs I am always here to advise as an elder virtual sister.
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@Anonymous Thank you so much- we are of Indian descent - my husband would never want her dating in high school. And might I add- she still has an active crush in school right now . Who is a male
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@rachel1219 Even I am Indian 😊. I understand the mentality , I had my first boyfriend when I was 15 years of age .
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@Anonymous Oh ok . Ya I worry for her but I guess I’m thankful it didn’t happen later in life where she was a college dorm wondering what the hell is happening to her.
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She said if you asked me last year who I would want to marry I would say a man and now I don’t know anymore and she starts crying and saying “I don’t know who I am anymore “
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I don’t think a homosexual person is suppose to feel Iike rhis . Crying and all
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Are you in college
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I am in University right now .
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@Anonymous Doing my masters
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Does it get better ?
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If you get the right amount of help and ERP it definitely gets better.
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@Anonymous Problem with my daughter is that she actually thinks she is “turning “ Gay so she thinks the erp won’t help her. She thinks the erp will make her believe more she is gay
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@rachel1219 That is what OCD tricks you into believing that. ERP will make it worse. But on the contrary it makes it better.
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@Anonymous I understand.
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I just want to give her hope it gets better
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But with her it seems in the past 4 months it comes in waves with HOCD along with other studs - harm ocd and contamination ocd
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I have suffered for 7 years . Not seeking help was my mistake. I should have. Please have her seek help.
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@Anonymous 7 years ? Omg. Are you married or with someone now ?
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@rachel1219 Sorry if my questions are too personal
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@rachel1219 No I am single , I will only be with someone whenever I get a grip on this
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@rachel1219 No no that's fine I understand why you are asking these questions.
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Did your parents know about this ? And if yes- how are they helping you? I want to know how parents can help the kids ?
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I think opening up to them was a task for me , but yes they have been extremely supportive as far as my feelings are concerned and encouraging me for therapy.
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Oh wow. That’s awesome . I really think that’s great. Sometimes I feel good - sometimes I feel defeated. I just want to help her
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Get her therapy. I think that will turn things around for her and you .
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She has to be ready to admit she has an issue. She just thinks she is turning gay and has no issue
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See if she has no issue then it's alright. But if it's bothering her and if it's taking over her life and making her anxious then it's an issue
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Let her decide when she wants to be open to therapy .
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She thinks she is turning gay and thinks about it all day but she sees it as this is my reality - me turning gay.
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Ok for now just listen to whatever she says and leave the option of therapy open to her.
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She spoke to me this morning. She says her brain tells her to be gay , she is also now convinced she needs to be gay but she knows she cannot because internally that is not what she wants and she feels trapped. I guess is a sure telltale sign of HOCD ?
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She says she feels trapped in her thoughts
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Maybe if I stop talking about it for a few months and let things take it’s own course
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Yes let her come to you. If things get too much therapy is always there.
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She came back now 20 min later says same thing is bothering her - she said she had another intrusive thought about her and another woman . I am scared rhis wilk make her vision so tunnel she won’t be able to see the guys she crushes on
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OCD reduces attraction to the original orientation , that is very normal . That only haooens because she's focusing on this too much. Tell her to tell you , how does she want to respond to the thought ? Does she want to check or ruminate . If she says check or Ruminate just let it be and ask her to write it down
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The order goes like this Trigger - Thought - Emotion - Behavior -
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She just tells me and I tell her to move on. She listens.
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Don't tell her to move on , it's better not to say anything.
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@Anonymous But if I don’t tell her to move on - she will harp on the thought?
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What do you mean check or ruminate? I usually don’t let her dwell on it
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she has to realize that herself otherwise it will build up inside her and her mind will push her to check.. let her realize that checking and rumination does nothing .
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Tell her write these thoughts down. No matter how distressing it may seem. Write it down. Let it out of her head
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I do have to believe Covid has something to with rhis
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She goes back to in person school next week
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I pray she will be ok
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I will pray for her as well.
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Thank you.
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It’s hard but I have faith in god that we will get through this
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We all will 🙏🙏🙏
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We all will. Every one on NOCD will .
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Did you take any medication ? She is on Zoloft 25 mg. Not sure if it is even helping her but I just don’t want to up her medication 💊 for no reason and get her hooked on meds
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I am not on any medication no
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Oh ok . Were you ever on any medication ? I am wondering if I should wean her off this medication. I don’t even know if it’s helping her
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Medication is a personal choice , I cannot comment on that. Depends on whether it's helping her rather than harming her.
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Today my daughter tells me that she does compulsions to prove that she is straight and not prove that she is gay
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Ok list those compulsions and ask her whenever she feels an urge to perform a compulsion just put a timer , for example 5 minutes just sit with the feeling breathe in and out . After that ask her how she feels. Keep doing until the need to perform a compulsion goes awat
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