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I've never heard of that virus before actually... But I've just read online that there are different kinds of it and in Germany most people don't even show any symptoms... But you're probably based in the US...? It is really scary for sure and I can totally understand how you feel, I've also got some things I'm irrationally scared of... I guess we have to accept that life itself is dangerous and we can never be sure not to die, as horrible as that sounds. It's kind of ridiculous that we all worry so much, me included, about dying and therefore we aren't even really living. As in enjoy living...
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? Lady, I am sorry to hear you are still suffering so badly with this. Over the summer I had my own bout with contamination as I felt I was leaking microscopic blood from a cut on my hand. First thing to recognize is that OCD likes to single us out and makes us feel 100% responsible, 100% vulnerable, and 100% alone. Realize OCD distorts the situation so that we feel out of control and panicked. OCD loves to magnify risk and create double standards. - Why do you think you have a greater risk than the general population or that of other individuals in the building? [This is OCD talking- double standard ] - Do you honestly think you can control your exposure to a microscopic illness? If you WANTED to get Hanta, do you think you could make yourself get it? [double standard / risk distortion] - What are the catastrophic thoughts playing out in your mind? You get Hanta and then what happens? Is the fear of getting the illness worse than actually contracting it?
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I really feel you. Unfortunately I don't know how else to help you. I've got some stuff I need to sort out as well but since it might be "contamined" I've avoided it. But I'm determined to do something about it in the following months. You should, too!
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I wish you luck and it would be awesome if you'd share your progress!
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When I had a therapist she told me the exposures would be done in a “safe” way. Like she told me she wouldn’t have me touch mouse poo like you would if you’re afraid of touching a door knob but then what do I do? What if I accidentally touch mouse poo and I didn’t know about it?
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Thank you. The funny thing is I’m not really scared of dying. At least that’s what I think. My symptoms are so debilitating sometimes I think death would be an easier option. But with that said actually doing something myself is scary so I’ve accepted maybe I’ll die from natural causes like viruses. But then I’m so afraid of them. I know my thoughts are flawed but how do I correct these thoughts? It can’t be done with the ERP alone, or can it? I’m just super confused because of my other disorders Overlapping each other I don’t know how to tackle this.
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I am in NY and according to CDC, there were five cases of people dying from the virus while the majority were south western areas. But five cases are still enough for OVD fear to go full blown. It’s amazing how creative our minds can be.
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Hi WorriedDriver :) I was just reading up about how to set up the hierarchy for blood related contamination fear. I hope you are doing better. I highly doubt a therapist would have you touch blood for the ERP much like mouse poo so that’s why I thought to read up on it. But no useful help :( I completely understand and agree with what you said about the OCD. There are answers (very real which makes this contamination threat very real) to your questions. I often do play out possible scenarios but I always end up “dead”. I kind of idealize it at times just so I’m no longer a burden. Also being a tree after death is pretty cool. I’m not afraid of death but more of what I couldn’t accomplish and dying with regret. And what would happen to my belongings. Because I have some embarrassing pictures/videos of me doing my rituals-which is the reason for my checking. That I’ll drop or lose and get them into the wrong set of hands. These are the reasons that have kept me alive. I guess not being in control and not knowing when I’ll get sick and die is what causes my anxiety. If I’m told I’ll die without a doubt next week, then I can prepare-but because I don’t know it makes me anxious. OCD makes me very stubborn to realize life is full of uncertainty but that’s why I can make it good just as much as I’m making my life bad right now. But I’m stuck. I’m in a big maze, trapped in by OCD with no exit nearby. It’s really funny because I’m high school I always feared of what ifs so much so that I started taking chances so I don’t lose out on my opportunities. Now my past is catching up with me. I know I can’t control everything and my controlling of ocd is making my ocd worse. That my compulsions aren’t really helping me. Like my checking compulsions are so exhausting part of my room is messy because I just avoid it.
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*contaminated
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Hi maybe :) I appreciate your help. Lately my rituals take about four hours and this is just to use the bathroom. I felt extremely nauseous and then had a panic attack followed by a meltdown. My stomach still feels awful-maybe because it’s that time of the month too. But then again other than the stomach cramps, the ready is pretty much the same as any other day. The other day I broke my record and was in the bathroom for 8 or 9 hours. It’s crazy how much I can’t control my ocd. I have a team of advocates trying to help me get the erp that’s more than what I used to get which was 4x/week at 45mins/session. I wish you the best with your ocd too. If I learn something I’ll keep you updated :)
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Thank you
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This is a repost, only because the last post had no responses lol. Please if you have any advice share. I’ve been trying hard to sit with the feeling of anxiety. Actually that’s the problem, recently I’ve been trying to sit with the thought (and I’m able to for a few hours or until the next morning) and then my anxiety comes back so strong and it’s like I need to clean everything off. I see images of gross laundry getting on everything or my hand and then I need to clean everything off to un contaminate it. Sometimes the thought happens later at night so I just sleep through and the next morning I will wake up with intense anxiety about contamination. That happened yesterday and I had to clean everything off and since then I’ve been traumatized so I’ve been doing compulsions like avoiding the bathroom and being around people so I know I couldn’t have done anything wrong. Actually recently my biggest compulsion has been recording every time I get up to go eat, etc so that I know I couldn’t have done anything. Any advice or help???
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TW: mice/rodents; contamination/virus; feeling unsafe in my home Hello, I'm new to the community, and new to OCD at 42 years old. My OCD is about contagion but specifically around mice and a virus some of them carry (hantavirus). For background, my husband and I have been in our house for a little over 10 years, and in all that time, there have been mice coming in and out through what we've discovered are chew-holes in the sill plate where the house frame sits on the foundation. Mice are gross, but we never saw evidence of them in the actual living spaces (only attics and cellar), and I was okay knowing they were there. I was a new mom when COVID hit, and the anxiety over that ratcheted up my general anxiety, which was never awful but definitely had me thinking more about contamination and contagion in a big way. Two years ago, I found mouse poop in the upstairs where the bedrooms are, got some traps, never caught anything, and then ended up actually SEEING a mouse come out from behind the toilet. It went back into the wall before we could catch it. After that, I got steel wool and expanding foam and plugged up EVERY hole in the house--mostly pipe holes for the radiators, toilets, sinks, etc. And I was still OK. Then, two months ago, I was in the cellar doing laundry and I saw a larger-than-usual dropping, bigger than mouse OR rat droppings, I thought, sitting on top of the dryer. I was like...hm, that's strange. I mentioned it to my Discord writing group, most of whom live in the Midwest (this will become relevant), and one of them said "oh, you have to be careful with mice, they carry Hantavirus. My husband had it a couple of years ago and it was really scary." I didn't know what hantavirus is, so I looked it up and found out you can contract it through breathing/contact with mouse poop, urine and saliva. The sickness that results from hantavirus has a 40% mortality rate, which scares the heck out of me b/c that's really high. Further research told me that the CDC started tracking Hantavirus in 1993. Between then and 2022, the latest of their available data, there have been fewer than 900 cases in the entire US; 96% of those cases were west of the Mississippi, and there has been in that time only ONE confirmed case in the state where I live. So, objectively, the risk of me or my family contracting this virus from our local mice is low. And I wouldn't think about it at all, except that there are still mice in the house. We've had a pest company setting and managing traps this whole time; recently they also came to plug the existing holes in the foundation, but they keep finding mice in their traps and they found a new chew hole near one of the cellar windows this week. We're working on a more aggressive solution (1/4" hardware cloth over the places where they're getting in), but it's slow going and in the meantime, there's still the risk of coming into contact with mouse stuff. But my brain has ballooned this into something so much bigger than that. I'm washing my hands so much that they're starting to crack and bleed and the skin feels tight. I'm afraid to go in the cellar to do laundry, because that's where the mice are. My husband has no problem going down in the cellar, which means I'm afraid to touch things around the house because what if he touched something with mouse virus on his hands? And even though I've plugged up all the holes where mice could get into the living spaces, I'm still obsessively afraid of every single surface--what if a mouse touched it? Ran across it? Peed on it? Even though I don't see mouse droppings in any of our living spaces, nor evidence of them chewing anything, I'm still losing my mind with fear. And although I've heard that folks with contamination OCD typically clean a LOT, I'm afraid to clean because what if I move the mess (we both have full time jobs and a 6 year old, so cleaning isn't always top priority) and I find mouse poop under there? This is an absolute nightmare. I hate not feeling safe in my own home. And I'm frustrated because I was FINE for so long...I don't know where this OCD suddenly came from, but it went 0 to 100 almost overnight. My loved ones are concerned and want to be supportive, but they're also not afraid and have never experienced anxiety nor OCD, so their "helpful" advice is usually along the lines of "can't you just decide to be afraid and do it anyway" or "have you tried not feeling this way"? I know this is a weirdly specific OCD but that's my story. I've been working with a therapist now for a few weeks but her breathing techniques, while somewhat helpful, aren't enough, so I need to have a talk with her about what comes next for treatment. Thanks to OCD, my world feels like it keeps getting smaller and smaller. I want to just find a tiny chair where I can sit and not move and not touch anything until all the bad stuff goes away...but I know that's not realistic, nor is is healthy. I'm just...exhausted, and frustrated, and scared, and really hopeful that I can find a way through this.
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Also Im sorry for posting so much about this type of stuff I’m just genuinely terrified and don’t know what to do Ok so last night I (16M) made a mistake of watching some stuff and had a physical reaction and I have a huge fear of bodily fluids and them infecting things and getting people infected because I think that would basically be a crime and of course I was in bed when this happened and worse part is I was on my bare mattress since I washed my covers a week ago and didn’t put them onto my bed yet but they were sitting on my bed if that makes sense and so I decide to shower change clothes spray the part I was laying down on with Lysol and also my chair and I feel asleep thinking I would clean it my room in the morning and also use my deep cleaning rug machine in the other room because I was scared thay room was also infected. So I wake up and my mind is ringing with fear telling me everything is filthy and what really scared me the most was my little brother and I used to share a room and so he had like a pile of his clean clothes on his bed which was by my bed but separated by a dresser and our room is small my chair is in the middle of our two bed and so I was scared that his clothes are now infected and I was panicking so I decided to just get up start cleaning up in the other room in order to clean the rug and I also swept the floor so I could mop later and of course chaos ensued the machine to clean the rug wasn’t working for a good hour before I got it working and then I cleaned the rug and then finished sweeping and I was going to mop before of course I made the same mistake I did last night and now my brain things everything is infected again so I quickly go shower spray the shower with Clorox foam and Lysol on the shower handle and head and I was going to wash it all off later after it sat for a bit but and I sprayed the floor with some Clorox foam just incase someone went in there before I mopped the bathroom floor and wiped it up with a towel I start preparing the mop and yep of course something else happens the pipe in the bathroom I just showered on frayed and water was pouring everywhere I told my dad he stopped it and of course I had to take everything out of the cabinet put it on the bathroom counter but my dad out some stuff in the shower and of course I’m grossed out because I didn’t rinse the Clorox out of it so to me that stuff got dirty and my dad can’t fix the sink until tomorrow so everything in there is sitting in limbo and my dad also used the mop I was gonna use to mop the house to get the water up that was covering the bathroom floor. But I mopped anyway cleaned the floor in my room and the bathroom along with what I could get in the house. Afterwards I start cleaning my room more wiping down the chair with a Lysol wipe and the dresser separating out bed I started throwing slot of stuff away like cards, coins, mail it was cluttered anyway and I tired wiping everything down to clean it the dresser the tv controllers my phone and iPad stuff like that I put some of my coins in a back I out back onto my dresser after wiping them with a Lysol wipe or ATLEAST trying and I threw some of my brothers clothes into the laundry room because I was scared it was infected I moved some stuff out of my room because I’m honestly scared to go back in there because I don’t want to get dirty again. So now I’m lying in a different room typing this terrified I forgot to clean something which would put someone at risk and thinking of how I need to go back in my room to wash my bed covers and clean my mattress but I’m so stressed I have a headache and my laptop is broken I think so another thing on my plate and I’m spiraling and have no idea what to do
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