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- Anonymous
- Date posted
- 3y ago
You sound like a good dad who's worrying over thoughts and trying to revisit memories to find certainty. The more you revisit past situations ,the more uncertain you become. You need to stop checking in your head and deal with this through ERP with a good therapist. A father doesnt just become evil for a few moments and then go back to his true beliefs, and this is reassurance which I dont want to encourage. You cant think you way out of these things, I know as I had a similar issue, it was torture for 3 years,but with ERP I gradually stopped taking my fears seriously. But that was the only thing that helped, trust me trying to be certain about memories will keep you running in circles, get help with it, its the best way to see your fears for what they are.
After talking with my dad about it I realized something. I had thoughts that I wanted to wipe to touch her there again and every other thought the same. I wiped her again which made me believe I acted on those thoughts with that kind of intention. It’s my fault really for not arguing with my thoughts and just letting them run their course. They told me to keep wiping her and i did. That doesn’t mean that I had those intentions. I allowed myself to believe what I was thinking was real and I know it was wrong to wipe again or maybe I didnt because of how clouded I allowed my mind to get from these thoughts progressing. but I did anyways like a dumbass. How can you making wiping your baby evil when you yourself aren’t? I think it’s virtually impossible to make wiping a child evil at all because regardless of what you’re thinking or what’s going through your head that doesn’t make the act of wiping evil. It’s the simple fact that I wiped her again after and during these thoughts that made me feel I committed them. I’m an idiot for believing these lies. I know I need help and always have known. The fact I even allowed my mind to convince me that I liked it or wanted it disgusts me on such a level and sends me into anxiety. Because I had thoughts in that moment such as “I like it” or “it probably feels good to her” and I convinced myself that that’s who I am and thats what I believe when there’s no way in hell that would ever transpire today. Nor the days before that particular event. I’ve went back and forth on it for so damn long that I began to believe it was true. I feel like a dumbass. After that event I became overwrought with guilt and shame. I know who I am and that’s not what ive ever believed in or wanted for anyone. Im sure my OCD will convince me otherwise after this big revelation but i didn’t even know about OCD even being a possibility when that event happened. My wife is the one who found NOCD because of that particular event. I constantly would talk to her “what if this happened” “what if in the moment I actually did like it” what if this and what if that? It always changed and changes. But this is my fault. I shouldn’t have listened to the lies in my head. The big argument I make is did she even need wiped again? Was there still poop in that area my thoughts targeted? I’ll never know this is true but even if she didn’t need wiped again, that doesn’t make it evil because my thoughts said so. I can’t believe I was so mentally weak. I hate how long it took to come to this reality. I didn’t want to blame “I have a condition” because it felt wrong. I felt like I was placing blame and trying to get away with something. When I know me I’m not much of a liar. I told my wife my mom my dad about the event and question whether I told the truth or not every day. I’m such an idiot. They told me to let go but I couldn’t because I always felt it was more than it was. I kick myself every day for erasing my own memory cuz if I didn’t I might know the truth today. But you’re right no one becomes evil for a second then goes to being good. Right after that event I was a much better dad but I think that was mostly out of guilt from feeling like I failed her or harmed her. then I wonder what if I just wanted to try it in the moment to see if I liked it? But then again if that’s true it’s still just my thoughts making me think I want to when I don’t. It’s just wiping for god sakes! You can’t make that a bad thing because your mind may be having evil things but the act of wiping isn’t evil. I’m an idiot I swear for believing in this load of crap my mind has been feeding. I know who I am and I know who I’ve always been. Wow. I’m stunned at my stupidity. My mom is getting me more help too so that’ll be very helpful on my road to moving on from that event. I have to. For my family and especially for my kids.
Yeah thats the truth but remember ocd will always find a way to make you question yourself thats why you need to learn the tools to combate it. Logic isnt really the way to treat this illness as I say. To get help you need to check if the therapist specialises in ocd and treats it with CBT most importantly combining it with ERP. The treatment is paradoxical, but I've had ocd for 45 years and this is the only way it works for me and so many others. Meds are fine as a help but erp done right will give you back your life. Remember many others are going through the same thing. None of us are alone.
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Does anyone else know they didn’t do something but than they can’t be certain they didn’t ? I have intrusive thoughts that make me terrified I have abused a child. One minute I’m positive I haven’t and the next I can’t be 100%. I end up going over a situation so much I add details that then become real to me and make me doubt myself more. For example, I just changed her diaper and now I’m terrified I did something I wasn’t suppose to even though I know I didn’t. But now I’m sitting here concerned I did. How do you cope with this?
It’s been a while since I’ve posted - I have been doing moderately well. My biggest obsession were false memory obsessions but since getting over that, I can see however my mind trying to grab many different things to obsess on. It has been mainly around intent. When changing my kids or wiping them when they decide they would rather not use the toilet, my mind is so much more attentive to where my hands are and what my thoughts are. And I recently(last night) had a thought that I knew would instantly latch on to me last night when I was wiping my son. And it had to with just gross stuff where I’d wipe him and my mind would connect his butt with like a typical female butt and I’d see it move because I’m wiping him and I’d get these weird thoughts / phrases in my head. And than I had to wipe again because I mean it was everywhere lol. But now I’m like did I wipe him again because of thought and I wanted to see his butt like move? Like I know that in this moment that seems just like junk to me but I can’t help to wonder what was my true intent or whatever in that moment? I know because this has happened a lot these last few weeks, almost like a new theme or way of obsessing. Because I get very guilty over this stuff and I just want to have a normal interaction where I can wipe my kid and not have a thought or even try to fight the thought and than question my intent. I’m trying to be like well that was weird, let’s move on. Anyone know if this is common? I am just trying to see if I need to label this as junk mail?
I hate how my mind is making me doubt of my intentions when i clearly know that I don’t have any desires to act on my thoughts. It makes my intentions feel so uncertain, and sometimes it would even make me feel like if I wanted to act on my thoughts when I actually don’t, because I wouldn’t be doubting if I did. So since I feel my intentions so uncertain I need to come to an answer, and sometimes it is so damn hard to get that answer, which makes me anxious and disturbed. It would also make me think of my past like, how were you okay without having these thoughts? Or makes me think of my future like, will you be okay without these thoughts? So it would make me think that these thoughts are really desires and I won’t be okay unless I act on them. As horrible as it sounds. And I don’t know if someone gets this too but, it would also make me doubt my feelings. When my family tells me cute things like “I love you” and stuff, I would feel so bad, because my thoughts are towards them. So I would say “ily too” but I feel like an hypocrite saying it, or like I don’t mean it at all, so it makes me doubt if I really love them or not. This is all so overwhelming, and I have gone through so many disturbing and crazy thoughts, feelings and situations, that I don’t know if this might be OCD.
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