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You ok bro?
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Naa this whole penis thing is getting me down its like i want it and i say sly and sneaky things in my head......i dont see anyone else having these thoughts 😞
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The sly and sneaky things in your head. I know it all too well. It's like your mind will comment on anything in you head even though you don't want to or wouldn't say that. Like if there's a penis, if a dude is fit or if he's good looking, your mind does whatever it wants and that's fucked up...
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Yeah sounds about right ... i think i need therapy tho. What do you reckon or would you say this is pretty much ocd im experiencing ?
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Yes. I just feel that I'm not.
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You are tho mate you have diagnosed ... this doesnt make you feel good at all does it. Think when you loved women the nice feeling they gave you etc. I feel like im using hocd as an excuse and that im really gay and its just confuseing me more ? 😞
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I guess that's a common theme to feel like your using it as an excuse. I'm an idiot. I kept going on the porn site to see chicks but I keep getting intrusive thoughts. My life is nothing...
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I know mate i feel like my life is over too.. earlier i cryed and said why me .. why did i have to be gay 😞
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I could even watch porn without the thoughts completely destroying me. I'm on the verge of crying but dude, I know it's all bullshit. My mind likes to switch it up and say "bi" which is just as fucked up. Now my anxiety is through the roof. I say why me all the time. I'm on edge.
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I give up bro.
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I cant fantasize about women anymore it horrible all i get is a man in my head 😞
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I thought about watching porn later but my mind threw up a dude's junk. Then I clicked on a link that someone sent me about ruminating and something about hocd in the other titles triggered the fuck outta me. I'm worried bro.
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And now I feel like if I watch porn I will feel worse because I be using it to forget about this.
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Dont watch it mate just let it pass 👊
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Thoughts are getting to be too much bro. Dont know how to beat it.
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I know mate so early i said ok im gay and thought fuck it and its like i couldnt if i tried 😞
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Dude, the moment I woke up, i was in a panic and it felt like it was all true. Got the penis thing again in my head, my mind along with the anxiety made that shit feel real. Shit makes me regret ever watching porn in my life.
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Mate i just facetimed my brother and i was going hes fit and shame hes my brother ? Wtf
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That's happened to me. You know what sucks, my attraction came back and females been looking so good lately but at the same time I've been obsessing more, more ruminating, the thoughts feeling even more real, it throws up denial, it throws up being bi. Oh god bro. Now I would love to fantasize and want but I dont want other shit in my head...
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@Jbm421 I know its tough mate .... soon as i think of a guy it goes straight to his penis like what it would look like.. ive always been obsessed about the size of my penis i dont know whether that was a factor in this ?
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@Ihateocd83 I've wonder that too. Ive always obsessed about that. Every other thought I get, my anxiety shoots up and it feels like my life is over. I'm trying not to check. Then I'm in bed but if start to doze off, my mind brings up anything to make me ruminate more. I need more help bro. It feels like between sessions I get worse.
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Dude, there are times that I can feel completely normal, totally unstoppable and all the stuff that bothers me falls away. But then a few minutes or hours later, it all comes back worse than before. A few hours ago when I woke up, I was so anxious that I felt it all came true. That's how strong the thoughts and feelings get.
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My mind is broken bro.
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The amount of anxiety I'm getting is unreal. I cant rest. I got tired before work so I decided to try and relax but the thoughts kept coming and it was so bad.
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This shit makes it feel like denial
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@Ihateocd83 Yup. I'm done bro. It's over. It's over. I just had to watch porn and I cant get excited. But I can be paranoid about penis, oh yeah. And that fat dude completely ruined thick chicks for me. So now, I really feel like a fucking fag. I'm done bro. over....
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Mate stop watching porn you know its checking yourself .. try to relax my freind 👍
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It's not just checking, I wanna see some bitches but between the dude and penis being stuck in my head, it has me fearing the worst. I cant relax.
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Dude, just a little while ago my mind was convincing me of a porn trigger and it felt so real. A few minutes later I can see it for what it is. Same thing when I was watching the chicks (that shit happens because I'm overanalyzing while being turned on by the chicks). I hate my mind.
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It's funny how stupid this shit is. All day long, the porn trigger was all in my head trying to convince. Now that shit is gone but the shit with the dude is back. Fuck my life....
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Mate im worried im thinking of guys in my head and saying stuff in my head whilst im half asleep and feels like i like it ? I dont even think of women anymore i cant handle this .. can this happen ?
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Two things: first, I get that exact same shit when half asleep. That shit is a nightmare. Two, feeling like you want the thoughts is part of it. This shit gives me a headache.
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So i said in my head until i have a crush on a guy this dont mean shit.. and then in my mind it said you have a crush on loads of guys ? Wtf 😞
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I call that a canceled reassurance. Here's how it works. You can take any logical fact and say it in your head or to yourself (never crushed, never fantasized, etc) which is reassurance but your mind cancels it out by making shit up. But because of your anxiety and habits of thinking it almost convinces that what you mind said is true.
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My mind is looking for a reason to trigger because I can barely think on chicks. I'm not gonna let the loss of attraction get to me. I mean shit, just the other day I got turned on by a bunch of chicks. So I'm just not gonna worry about that.
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I hate when this shit tries to take away females from me, specifically my ex's.
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I feel like ive had everthing taken away from me and now i have to be this person i dont want to be 😞
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You dont have to be and you wont.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YmZqRZa0IDo Watch this video. Listen to what she says about OCD.
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Fuck bro. The moment I think about sex with my ex, my mind goes to my own penis, now I got that shit in my head. I'm fucked bro.
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I'm never fucking fantasizing ever again!!!!!!
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...and I think about my ex for a second and I'm aroused but then, let's bring up a penis again. Now the groinals are gonna kill me today.
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Now I'm getting groinals and anxiety left n right.
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Ok so right now, I'm not being bombarded with the thoughts focusing on that one thing that bothers the fuck outta (probably for the first time in weeks). My problem is that it starts up on 10 or 12 different other things that its trying to focus on to get me reacting.
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Hey bro. How u holding up? I'm doing ok-ish today. At least my mind isn't stuck on one thing. Even though it's an asshole.
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Got triggered a few times to end the night. First from exposures then from my my brother. I see that I'm mentally checking which I'm trying to stop. I hate this fucking shit bro.
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I swear its like im ok with this shit like i actually like it .... i dont think this is ocd mate 😞
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I dont want to reassure you but like you want the thoughts is part of it. You're good bro. I've notice my thoughts are jumping all over the place. Like OCD doesnt know which thought to hit me with because not every thought is sticking.
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@Jbm421 These feelings feel real mate honestly like feelings in my stomach 😞
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@Ihateocd83 Yeah. That's what anxiety will do. You wanna know how many times in the past like 5 days I've had that exact same feeling?
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@Jbm421 Its seems constant... 😞 is that feeling in my stomach fear ?. I had i thought about going cinema with my boy and then i pictured a man being there with us like some good looking guy ive made up in my head.
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@Ihateocd83 It will throw up some guy you made up. It always does.
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@Ihateocd83 It could be worse, you could be like me laying in bed reminiscing about your ex's but then the pernis thing comes in and think about all the chicks you passed up or it didnt work out with during this shit and for a split second compare them to the dudes who trigger you. I hate my mind. Fuck my mind and fuck HOCD!!!!!
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Ok that's fucked. I saw an animated pick on my feed of a dude going down on a chick but my mind brings up a dick. I cant even think about anything sex related without that shit popping up. Fml...
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And I get triggered again over a thought before bed. Nice.....
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Dude, I just had therapy. The exposures were rough bro. She had me look at shit with male strippers. I got through it but it still messed me up a little. She said that's the point of it.
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Ah man thats rough ..... i heard they diagnose on the first session ?
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@Ihateocd83 I'm doubting again.
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Dude, It was an exposure with male strippers (only no full nudity). I tried to take a nap after that. All the thoughts came in. Anxiety is really hitting me...
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Did another exposure before work. I know I'm supposed to sit with the intrusive thoughts and anxiety and just let it be but I guess my mind is too weak to do that.
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I think the therapy back fired. I'm done. I got nothing left.
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Mate i said in my head i love penis in my head ... how can i have this shit in my head all day long ? 😞
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Dude, I did my 3rd exposure and my therapist said just sit with it and let the intrusive thoughts go. But during the exposure I got anxiety especially looking at the dude's shoulders but then my mind said "if that guy had those shoulders here, you would like that shit." It triggered the fuck outta me and I felt it was over. I got angry after awhile and I went back to the thumbnail of the video and go really pissed because I've looked at shit worse than this for exposure in the past months. Why is this triggering me so bad? Fml... My point is, those thoughts come on auto pilot but they "feel" like they come from you.
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@Jbm421 I really do feel like im hideing something its horrible... mate tell me the thing i said this morning are they normal for hocd ?
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@Ihateocd83 I dont want to reassure you but I been saying shit in my head that paranoid about just like you.
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Have you been getting triggered lately? I've been getting triggered by everything lately, even shit that shouldn't trigger me or I know is not that serious to be triggered by. I just got triggered by a little statue of Ryu from Street Fighter that I have. Smfh....😖😖😖😖
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Yeah my own penis , brother, my boys , i watched lesbian porn and my mind is like eww its horribe and it feels like im forceing it... it used to be so natural. I hope we get our lives back i feel like im living on the edge 24/ 7
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@Ihateocd83 Amen to that. I feel like the same. Its exhausting.
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My mind is trying to get me with this boyfreind shit 😞
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Yeah its trying to get me too. That exposure really got to me but I was feeling a little better but then while I'm on YouTube, there's always something to remind me about this shit. Smfh....I still haven't gone to sleep and I dont want to wake up feeling like shit again.
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I just got triggerd by a picture of me wearing shorts on the beach .... i was like nice legs
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Dude, I got a ton of pics on me that would trigger me. Not gonna look at those...
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Checking chicks out on Facebook, they had a gay fan page. Shit made me panic and clicked off. Now my morning is ruined...
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I feel like i have pressure in my head constantly 😞
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I've had that. I'm just getting paranoid I cant heal. It's like it's all so simple but it's not simple at all. Now I feel like a fag.
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Mate i do .. aswel i cant stop thinking about this i never thought things would get this bad .. it feels like i want this fml
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Seriously bro. In the past week alone, things went from bad to worse. And gay dude just got in the elevator with me. Fml
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Shit what happened ?
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Nothing. I just went to the supermarket. Cute chicks in there. But my confidence in beating this fucking shit has taken a big hit. Trying not to ruminate about it but it's hard.
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Back to my old habits. Even with me seeing some cute chicks here and there, Im back to how I was in August. 😢😢😢😔😔😔😔
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Right as I typed that, some dickhead who thinks its summer out because it got warm walks by me. Good looking muscular dude in a t-shirt. I was shocked at how little it bothered me.
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I think sometimes maybe im gay and i just cant take or accept it ?😞. Your be back mate i promise you 👊
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Read what I just wrote.
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Exactly mate shows your what bullshit it is?..... as for me im fucked 😞
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Right after that another dude same thing comes in the train. Same reaction, with a little intrusive thoughts. But then my mind trips me up. Then it throws up a shirtless muscle dude that it made up. My mind really trying to get me to like that shit. Now on top of this, I gotta worry about my mom. She sick and I may need to take he to the hospital.
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Sorry to hear that mate ... hope shes ok. Stay strong
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Dude, for a split second it felt all real or as if its inevitable. 😢 Like im a little calm right now but I'm on edge and stuck in a loop. She ok for now. Hopefully she wont have to go to the hospital.
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Sometimes i think i have been in the closet since 22 and its just all come to a head 😞
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I've had it since 28. I can tell you this shit (even with the doubt fucking with me), never had crushes on dudes, never fantasized about that shit and I never will. This is bullshit bro. We both need to remember who we are. I would like to work harder on ERP but my confidence in doing it is shot.
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@Jbm421 I just try to not avoid anything
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@Ihateocd83 I avoid too much.
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Its tough mate .... my thoughts feel like im fantasizeing whats the difference from intrusive or fantasizeing?
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Fantasies are 100% pleasurable...
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Oh ok ... i cant believe some of the thoughts im capable of sometimes i sit there and smh 😞
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Here's what's funny. I can see, from the thought processes of you and everyone I see on here that you are OCD and the fear of the future and the thoughts you may have keep it going. But I see my thoughts or my thinking as different even though they sound the same.
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Talk about being capable of thoughts. My thoughts always escalate. And it feels more and more real. Look at me. I haven't shaved. I need a haircut. I'm dirty, my house needs cleaning. I'm a fucking mess again man. Again!!!!
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I feel like im going to see a guy in pants and like it ...my reaction in my mind is that i will like it 😞
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Bro, I'm worried. I even think about a female for a fucking second. Nothing but dudes in my head. This shit has negated that part of me. Feels like it all came true. I'm really scared bro. I dont wanna think because I cant think straight. My god bro.
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Thats exactly where im at mate every fucking day i just dont want to feel like this for the rest of my life 😞
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Dude, I spent the last with my head shaking back n forth just ruminating. Like I'm trying to find a way out of this. It's my only defense against this. I'm so done it's not even funny. Now it feels like denial. I feel like a gay dude. I'm done bro.
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@Jbm421 Come man you cant give up ... things are going to get better
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I just had a therapy session. Feel a little better. She wants to restart me on easier exposures but the trade off is I gotta promise to go to the gym. She explained that the way to conquer this, really conquer this, is to accept the possibility of turning gay. Only then will we stop trying to control everything and then we can heal. She also said that she knows it's scary but she also said that I'd be the first person in history who's gonna turn gay from that. I know what she means. I'm still in hell, I'm still terrified and but I wanna be hopeful.
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Turn gay from exposures you mean ? I feel like i am already that way..... my life feels ruined. I said to my gf i think i need therapy and she said i think you need to man up 😞
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That's not very nice. She should be sensitive about what you going through. Dude be strong. The night is darkest just before the dawn. My mind had thrown up some of the worst shit I ever though in the past two hours alone. I'm gonna try to get things done today, with tears in my eyes and fear in my heart, I'm gonna try. I just hope it's not too late for me. But it not too late for you bro.
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@Jbm421 Its not we both got this mate
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I'm on the train running an errand for my mom and I'm tired but every time I close my eyes I start to ruminate. The thoughts I come up with are very disturbing and it's even more disturbing that I am capable of the thoughts.
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The thoughts (not just the stuff that triggers me) really have a way of discouraging me. It gets really bad with the loss of attraction. It's at like -200 attraction right now. How could this happen??? 😭
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...and of course 2 gay dudes gotta sit across from me.
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The thoughts have me a nervous wreck. Cant even visualize a female in a pleasurable way. Oh but I can see dudes though. I'm losing all hope. My thoughts are completely fucked. Dont know what to do.
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Just try to relax i guess mate
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How could it get so bad bro? It's really bad. Getting triggered by NBA.
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Mate i give in ... i was walking past a farm and i pictured some good looking guy walking up the drive opening the gate ... im fucked. Is this fantasizeing ?
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No that intrusive thoughts. Fantasizing is imagining a fun a pleasurable experience not being so in your head that you imagine the worst in the moment...
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My night ended well last night. But I wake up to some weird ass thoughts/dreams. Now I'm a little paranoid to go to the gym because of yesterday. I fear that something/someone is gonna trigger me and I dont want that shit.
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I dont have to get triggerd this is permantly on my mind i get groinals in my butt while just sitting and and it feels like i want to be with a man. This brings my no joy and i might have to give up on women i literally cant think of them without negative feelings my mind has totally fucked me 😥
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I feel like that most of the time too and yeah I don't have to be triggered for me to start having the thoughts. But as bad as it has been, I'm dusting myself off and walking right back into hell.
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Are you going to the gym ?
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On my way right now. I'm a little afraid given how much the gym triggered me yesterday but I'm still going.
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@Jbm421 Yeah dont avoid it mate
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ive been getting angry today i just feel dissconnected from everything and everyone 😞
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I just saw a video about feeling disconnected.
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I think its because my mind is so on this 😞
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Absolutely. I'm in the gym and my mind is a bit more calm today. Couple of cute chicks here (one is kinda skinny but still kinda cute) but I'm not trying to push too hard.
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Im fucked mate 😞...had a dream with the gay guy in eastenders in it.. and its like i liked him. And then to top it of my boy said he had a dream and i was talking to a bloke which triggerd the fuck out of me 😥 game over mate 😞
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Stop. Take a deep breath. You are emotionally reacting to the connections your mind is making. I found out that OCD follows you into your dreams to get you into a reaction. You cannot control your dreams. Give yourself a break. Try to watch or do something that you know wont trigger you and accept whatever thoughts come into your head as being there while trying to focus on other things. You're ok mate. Just try to relax.
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But then i have dreams with women in and im kissing them etc ... i just dont know who i am anymore 😞
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Dude, you could also have dreams about killing people. Does that make you a murderer? Also, you enjoy the girl dreams right? Hell it could be worse, you could be like me getting triggered over video game muscle heads. That's how stupid this disorder is.
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I just dont feel like i have it .. 😞. Its like i want to be with a man and like its the only way to stop this ..... i keep thinking of shit like because i not good at diy i need a man to do it for me or because im not good at it means im not man enough because im gay
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Not being good a DIY means nothing. Lol. HOCD followed me into my dreams too. See what I mean. I'm feeling a little like shit because I just woke up. But I'm gonna try to have a good day.
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Im saying stuff like im already gay i dont know what to do anymore. Im thinking of men i must be gay 😞
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It something that is stuck in your head and you're worried about it. Now we gotta get it unstuck.
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My problem right now is I'm stuck in bed because I'm so tired but at the same time the muscle man shit is back and it worries me.
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🙈 what the fuck are we going to do lol 🤷♂️
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Hold on. It's all we can do. I'm gonna keep doing my exposures. If I could just focus on anything else for a small amount of time, I'll be good.
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This is with me 24/7 feels like im going to take this to the grave with me 😞
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Try not to think like that. Do this exercise with me. Time yourself for an hour. During that hour, if thoughts come up say "cool. Nice one. " or "yes, great", breathe through anxiety and try to distract so u dont ruminate. Just for 1 hour. Try it.
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How u doing bro???
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Not great 😞. My mind is telling me i want to be with a man and i want penis going into detail. I have a feeling of anxeity i think... i feel like i just dont know myself anymore 😞
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Did you try doing what I said??? One hour?
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I'm just stressed because my attraction/libido are pretty much gone. They no longer exist...
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@Jbm421 I know i was kissing my gf and i hardly felt a thing and then a little voice went wish this was a man 😞
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@Ihateocd83 Damn bro. That's what OCD does. It kills emotions. I got an aunt who's close to death and I want to feel sadder than i am but I'm stuck in my head. Shit is terrible.
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I swear bro, ruminating in the morning and dreaming has broken my mind. How I get intrusive thoughts in my dream while I'm doing things with my ex? And even if I wake up from thinking about an ex, I'm terrified to get aroused because of the intrusive thoughts and that's exactly what happened. I'm fucked bro.
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Im really struggling with the being with a man shit and im trying to accept it but then it feels like im accepting that i want to find a man ... ive cryed alot today 😞
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Hang in there bro. I know how hopeless that feeling is. Just try occupy ur mind for a little while with happy shit and let it pass.
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@Jbm421 Now back to penis ?... i cant understand why im going through this ? So you just start likeing penis at the age of 37 ? 😞
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@Ihateocd83 No, it's whatever is bothering you at the moment. For instance the muscle shit will bother me for days but then that goes away then the penis shit comes (and its hell), then something else comes in its place...
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@Jbm421 Its the thoughts that come with it im so dissapointed with myself 😞
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@Ihateocd83 You just gotta allow the thoughts. Just now I had one that I dont like but I'm gonna let it go.
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@Jbm421 I dont want fucking men in my head 😡
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@Ihateocd83 Let me tell you how bad it was for me. From Tuesday until about Friday morning, that's all my mind could bring up. But I started doing ERP, kept going to the gym, kept occupied to keep from ruminating. My anxiety started to fade but more importantly, my thoughts became more clear. It's not perfect by any means (I'm making some of the same mistakes with loss of attraction) but I'm getting there slightly. You need to find a way, any way, to get out of your head.
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@Jbm421 I sit there and stare into space and think how the hell did i get here ... its not gay to find guys attractive right ?
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@Ihateocd83 Dude, you're looking for reassurance. You already know that answer (and even if I were to answer it, you'd doubt it anyways). Staring into space will cause you to ruminate (it's the same as laying in bed trying to sleep with all this fucked shit in your head). Try anything to get outta your head bro.
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@Jbm421 Im going to try mate
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@Ihateocd83 Try to look at any time that you get peace or relief from this (whether its 10 minutes, half an hour, an hour, a day) as a victory. It can help pull you out of it.
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@Jbm421 Thanks brother. Glad your doing better 👍
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It seems to have been there most of the day today 😞
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I dont know what to do anymore 😞
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Sometimes it's best to try to just leave it alone. For instance, I'm about to go to bed but I just got slightly triggered by some NBA basketball clips. Intrusive thoughts and all, I'm choosing to say "whatever, it doesnt matter". Because it doesnt. My mind wants me to be more defensive to my thoughts but but I say "fuck it, it doesn't matter". My point is tell your thoughts "fuck it" and do it over n over (I say over n over because it's not gonna work if you do it once or twice or 5 times, you gotta do it over n over until your brain gets the message which will take time). Hang in there brother! You will beat this...
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@Jbm421 Why is it i cant feel a thing when looking at pictures of hot women ... but i know if i was to see them in the flesh it would be different 🤷♂️😞
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Im not sure i cant cope with the feelings and that i like penis .... then im like it cant be true 😥
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The answer to both of those questions is because its OCD. OCD doesn't make sense. It doesnt play fair. It's not logical and it take anything and twist its meaning...
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I mean shit, it's doing it to me now despite me doing better. I keep trying to feel chicks again but that shit will take some time.
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See man. Even if I get a see a pic of an ex, a random sexy chick or even think of an ex I end up feeling like a fag because I cant feel shit.
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Same mate ... at least you dont have the loss of attraction to there gentials it fucking kills me
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I'm at work and I got triggered because of some gay dudes. I knew they were coming to the job and my anxiety was up before they even got here. And they're just some regular dudes but my mind works on that bad. Smfh...
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Yeah i get that i compare myself to them sometimes because you think well i wouldnt know they were gay or something
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Shit. And then you face it and it's not that big of a deal but your mind makes it that because you got triggered that makes it a big deal. It's so illogical. Nonsensical. But then it makes you worry.
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Shows you how this works. All the other stuff that was worrying me is out the window but this gets me. 🤣
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Wish i could get num to this shit.. i really worry about the whole pussy thing and that i dont like it ? 😞
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I'm getting kind of numb to the exposures but then my mind throws up some other shit or loss of attraction or the old woman shit. Now I feel like a gay...
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Loss of attraction kicked my ass today. I give up bro.
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This is like the one part of HOCD that I feel like I cant beat. Loss of attraction is really fucking distressing. I'm lost bro.
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Yeah i know mate ..... im panicking to. i keep thinking of this guy years ago that i used to go to my gym ..like i want to be with him wtf ?. I dont know what to do im lost mate 😞
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Dude, it's like I know I can beat this but my mind wont let me. Literally loss of attraction is the only thing holding me back. You're gonna beat this bro. If you were able to do ERP with the pics like I do, you could see that you could get past it. But with me, the overthinking over all these years with chicks has completely fucked me up. Even when I'm doing well, I'm not doing well...
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My mind does that too. And if it doesn't do that with a dude, it takes any female that I didnt pursue and uses that against me.
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@Jbm421 Feels like i dont like pussy anymore and then im haveing these thoughts i must be gay fml. I want to get better but ... sometimes i think is there anything to get better from 😕
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Dude, the doubt is too strong. Had dream with a sexy chick but other than that I have nothing. Fucking ERP isn't enough to shut this bullshit up. I was so triggered after therapy that I felt like it was all true. And I dont sleep well on top of it. Fml...
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mate its all fake you know this you doing all the right things 👍. For me i dont even feel straight anymore feel attracted to men cant even look them in the eye . I feel like im missing my boys grow up because of this shit in my head ... i dont even think of women anymore i cant 😞
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I'm in the same boat bro. Missing my nieces and nephew grow and I can barely hold chicks in my head. 😢
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Not the other shit im going through mate ....i doubt this is ocd i really do
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Dude I doubt it all the time. I just did an ERP that my therapist told me to do while on my bike. It was a looping message saying girls dont do it for me anymore. I was supposed to sit with the anxiety. Funny enough, chicks were looking good regardless but the doubt and intrusive thoughts were still there. Then a dude was making small talk while was buying something and it felt gay. Now I'm triggered. Idk, maybe I'm pushing too hard with the females...
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I dont feel anxiety while saying that i dont think ?. What does your anxiety feel like ?
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OCD can come without anxiety.
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Fuck my life bro. Seriously.
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I feel the same ... im going to stop going on these random talk sites and talking to women. Maybe the idea is to starve yourself of women ?
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I guess. Either it's like I'm cursed.
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I feel like that to. Do you feel more calm in the evenings?
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Most of the time yes. Dude I been stuck on this since I got outta bed. This is not healthy. I dont know what to do anymore bro. I can only keep doing the exposures. But my mind keeps attacking. It always wins....😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
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Your get there mate ... just keep going gym as much as you can. I was saying that thing you said earlier about not beong into girls. How long do you do it for ?
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I put it in a loop for 3 minutes.
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Just keep saying it ?. Also do you meditate ?
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No I don't
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I can never do because I get afraid of where my mind will go.
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Yeah i get that to. When i sit and try and focus my mind goes straight to this shit and i can never think of anything else. I dont get how it works ?
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What is this life ?
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Wish I knew bro. Spent the last few hours cutting down on my compulsions and doing exposures. Its helped a little with anxiety but the thoughts fucking suck. Even had POCD and even suicide thoughts but I was able to brush them off.
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I dont think i have ocd ... maybe i just cant accept im gay .... but when i do try and accept it i cant settle on anything i have pain in my body you know that feeling just before you cry constantly what do i do mate what the hell do i do?. I get thoughts like i want to be with a man. I have a hate towards women im fucked completely. I just want to look at women like i used to and want them with that desire 😞
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I HATE HOCD!!!!!!
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Mate are you ok ?
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@Ihateocd83 Ive been crying most of the morning
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You ok buddy ?
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But then a few seconds on Facebook checking chicks (and not even intentionally) and I feel like an idiot and the loss of attraction is bullshit....fml
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Sorry I sent that before I fell asleep and I only slept just a few hours. I'm upset with this female shit. I have fucking nothing bro. I can feel shit and it's all my mind cant bring up. All those other fears are in the background, but the loss of attraction shit had gotten so bad it's like it's own obsession. Smfh!!! I'm sorry you been crying. You ok?
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No not at all ... i feel like im going backwards last couple of days feelings thoughts about being with a man my life is fucked ... i keep thinking could i do this stuff with a man or be with a man 😥
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@Ihateocd83 I know your pain bro. Funny enough, today she had me look at gay dude pics and it's a fucking no. It's not us but we have to accept the thoughts. Just let them come. Right now though I'm just a little depressed. I cant sleep and the loss of attraction took its toll.
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@Jbm421 Itd horrible mate sometimes guys look better than women and im feeling hardly nothing for women 😥
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@Ihateocd83 That happens to me too.
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Therapy was rough. She really pushes buttons. It's weird because it feels like I can handle everything she throws at me but it also triggers the fuck outta me....
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Im booked a phone call for tomorrow... i think even if i get diagnosed im still going to think i dont have it and what the fuck im i going to do if they dont diagnose me ? 😞
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NOCD?
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@Jbm421 Yes mate im shitting myself 😕
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@Ihateocd83 The first phone call is to take your info and set up the first appointment. Try to calm down.
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What if they say its not ocd ? And how do they know ?
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"What if" is definitely an OCD saying not to reassure you.
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Do you do your appointments on your phone through facetime ?
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Zoom. Through the triggers, the thoughts, the lack of sleep, the false attractions, the loss of attraction, I'm just extremely depressed and exhausted.
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Whats zoom ?... can you get it on your smart phone ?
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Yes. It's an app but I dont know if that's what they will use in the UK.
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Its the detail of the thoughts like i actually like it. Everytime i look at a womans groin area i get eww 🤷♂️ 😕
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That shit about a woman's groin is a mental block that this shit created. It's the same as loss of attraction and the penis thing. It's all based on fear.
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Dude, I'm really worried. I been doing ERP, cutting down on my compulsions, and trying to not engage the thoughts but I feel more scared than ever. 😔
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Im looking foward to doing that shit. Im not sure im going to be able to afford therapy ? 😞
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Bro, I tried to take a nap and my mind tried to hit me with 11 years of this shit all at once. It's still doing it now. I'm barely holding on bro...
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Do you ever feel like shouting out like shut the fuck up or fuck off ?
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Everyday bro. If only it fuck off if we told it to. I'm in bed trying to nap and I'm like paralyzed by fear. It's like I cant win. I'm doubting OCD again.
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Dude, with all this freaking obsessing I'm missing out on shit. I ran some errands and I walked by one of the sexiest chicks I ever saw and then leave it up to Facebook and Instagram to show me some sexy ass girls. I HAVE to beat this. In the past hour alone I got triggered by my brother and by the mention of a dude's wife. This is all bullshit but my mind has found ways to push my buttons. I hate this shit. Need relief...
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Is therapy going good... ? Im still not sure to go for it ? 😕
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It will help. Ur on meds too right? That will help you. Me, I dont do meds and I think that's part of what hurts me. But damn man, when I see a sexy ass chick, imperfections and all, it reminds me of who I am. The fact that I forget because of how much this takes up space in my head pisses me off. I'm very angry today!!!
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Getting triggerd by zac efron... im getting hes so hot look at him... sometimes i have to say something to my gf to deflect it like say something about him like look how young he looks etc..
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Dont do that. Acknowledge that he is good looking and move along. Doing that will only make this stronger. I've been triggered in the past by him too. Hell, just today I was triggered by NBA players, my brother and two movies: one with two dudes kissing and one with a dude implied to be gay. I cant let that get me down. We cant. We got something to fight for. My mind is gonna throw up road blocks. And I'm still gonna have all the fucking sayings that keep this going, "now I really feel like a fucking fag", "my life is over", "fuck my life", "I have nothing left" but I'm gonna fight. Fuck OCD, HOCD or whatever the fuck. I'm done with this crap.
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Hey bro, how is your sleeping? Are you able to get sleep? I cant get any sleep.
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My sleep is ok to be fair its when im awake its the problem i even dream about women in my dreams i dont get it ? 🤷♂️😕
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I dont sleep well at all and I mostly have weird dreams when I do.
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How come i can dream of women but when im awake i can hardly muster a thought. Mate is the therapy really worth doing ?
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Yeah but it very difficult.
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I will tell you this, there will be more things that you can handle in terms of visual triggers. You will be triggered probably more by thoughts than anything else. I just did an exposure with muscle dudes. Barely even bothered me.
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@Jbm421 Is it legit because my dad is paying for it and is worried they are going to take all his money ? How do you pay for yours ?
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@Ihateocd83 My medical pays for part of it and I pay the rest. $100 every 2 weeks. It is legit and pretty much everyone who is a therapist on here has had OCD so they know how to treat it. Look up some of their stuff on YouTube. Also, worrying about it is almost like a sub theme.
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I hate when I'm feel kinda ok but my mind has to fuck it up. Now, since dudes ain't bothering me, it goes the bi route. Fml....
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How you holding up bro???
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I'm stuck at work for 15 hours and im tired as hell. I'm trying not to dwell on the female shit. Got triggered a few times. It's mostly my fault but when I'm this tired it hard to do anything right.
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I just feel gay ... i dont know why im bothering with therapy thats how i feel. I have i session on tuesday 😞
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I hear you bro. Its gonna ok. Therapy will be good for you. Its helped me again. The only thing right now getting me is sleep and loss of attraction/zero libido. I need some serious sleep. Most of that shit comes back to you as you go. It's just the waiting that kills me.
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I broke down crying. I have to beat this. I can beat this. But my mind and body are giving out. Attraction is at an all time low, I barely sleep, splitting headache, thoughts ganging up on me. Been doing ERP and I've seen very positive things but I still do too many things wrong. I'm out of it
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You got this mate ... your stronger than me 👍
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@Ihateocd83 Once you get in the groove if doing ERP, you will surprise yourself. I'm not gonna lie to you. There will be times when ERP will make you feel like its 100% true. Hell, I just did ERP and it tried to give me subtle thoughts about it being all true but stay in pocket. The more you do the ERP, the less it will bother you. I just need some rest.
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Already feel like it 100% true i dont know how this got so bad. How could someone who loved women so much end up like this 😞
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Dude, I been up for hours just trying to rest and all my mind can obsess over is loss of attraction. Can't feel shit for a female. And all day yesterday too. I did a ton of ERP but only the woman shit would bother me.
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Even I wonder how did I get so bad.
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My therapist has added another exposure to my exercises. Its to combat the anxiety due to the loss of attraction. Dont know if it will work. Hopefully it will. It worries me that I have to go through this. I'm really worried bro.
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You have ocd mate remember 👍. I have my first appointment tomorrow 😞
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I forget that all the time. Dude, right now tha loss of attraction has my anxiety super high and I'm like paralyzed with fear of the next though. You will do fine bro.
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I dont seem to get much anxiety with the thoughts ?
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That's good. Keep it that way. Otherwise you will create anxiety.
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I think maybe the meds help ?
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It's possible
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Hey mate whats the diamond portal ?. I dont know what my password is etc?
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The system might be different for the UK compared to the US.
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My therapist sent me a link but dont have a password. Ive had such a bad day it feels like i dont even like women anymore but attracted to men and i feel like i want to be with a man.... game over 😞
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I know how you feel bro. I woke up a little while ago and I had fantasy of an ex. I was able to wank. But now I feel more empty than ever. Like I'll never be ok. Now I feel even less for females. I had to do an exposure with chicks pics while saying negative shit to trigger me. Now I'm in hell again.
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I dont have anything left...
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You struggling to mate ? You will get better. I dont think therapy is worth it for me ?
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Yeah. ERP can be rough but the thinking gets me down. My therapist said that the way I pick apart the looks of a female is very similar to relationship OCD (which makes sense) but I feel like my mind is too far gone. I know I gotta be patient but it's so difficult to even get up and do anything when I'm like this.
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Mate i feel for you .. i even said something like husband or some shit like that i just dont see this can be ocd ?
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I was involuntarily and that's what OCD does. In the span of a few minutes I had a thought of killing my dog and a POCD thought but I can disregard those easily. But with HOCD because it is our primary theme, we assign meaning to every thought. To us, intrusive thoughts are just as real as real thoughts.
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@Jbm421 *It
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I'm done bro. This shit fully took females away from me. I'm done. Its over bro.
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Its fucking over bro. It gets worse by the minute. I'm done.
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I swear i have pain in my head
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Oh I get headaches everyday. Yeah I'm completely doubting I have OCD now bro. My mind just did a number on me. Telling me I like dudes more than chicks. I'm officially 100% done.
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Yeah i get that to mate
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So my therapist said i fit into the criteria of ocd is that being diagnosed ?
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It's the same thing. You have OCD, not to reassure you. I wish that alone could have cured me when my therapist told me but I let my thoughts get outta hand. I was crying and depressed for 2 hours over loss of attraction and my mind using old women as proof of loss of attraction. Literally everything else doesn't matter but loss of attraction and the old woman shit does matter. Wtf bro...
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@Jbm421 I wish it could cure me to mate. I just broke down in front of my son. And i feel like i didnt tell the therapist everything like i was lieing. This is the worst thing that has ever happened to me. I cant hardly feel anything for women 😞
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It's always gonna make you feel like your lying. Doubt, shame and fear will do that with OCD. I've broken down to a few family members this week. Shit at least 5 times in the last few hours, it felt 100% true. I almost gave up. It's even done the "oh, you're bi" shit. This is exhausting. Dude, this thing had turned my beard almost completely grey...
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I thinking maybe i just cant accept that im gay. Ive had the boyfreind thoughts which then where husband 😥.
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@Ihateocd83 Dude, I feel bad. I wish I could help you but i can barely help myself. I'm doubt OCD more than ever now. It's been really intense lately. And this thing has almost completely taken females from me...😢
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Dude, now I have a fear of turning bi. I get no rest.
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/beyond-the-doubt/201908/the-subtle-ocd-compulsion-you-might-not-know-youre-doing Please read this. Great article
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You ok mate ?
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Not at all bro. I layed down to get a nap and all I could was toss and turn. Anxiety spiked and all I could feel is that i cant feel for a chick. It's so much worse now. Like the world has disappeared. And I'm tired if doing ERP. I was hoping that I'd feel a little better if I was in my sis house. But my mind has other plans.
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How did I get here bro??? How is this my life???
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You ok mate? cant believe i type these things 😞
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@Ihateocd83 Had bad day yesterday but I got drunk in the night and I was a little better
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@Jbm421 Do you find when you drink things get better ?
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@Ihateocd83 A little bit
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@Jbm421 Sorry your not great i wish i knew what to say buddy. Stay strong
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@Ihateocd83 Over here in my sis crib and they watching Pitch Perfect. Dont wanna see this shit. I feel worse than ever. I'm hung over and some of these chicks are cute but I cant feel a fucking thing. I don't know what to do.
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I triggered so bad earlier bro. And I was feeling for the past day.
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*good
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I'm losing hope. How did that shit trigger me so bad?
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You was feeling good ... see mate thats progress its going to knock you back keep going you will get there. My mind tells me i dont really like women etc.. i went to the park and me and my mate was talking about the school mums in the park and i felt like i had my attraction back some what. But i was getting thoughts about him and he was standing close to me. My mind was trying to imagine me being with him kind of thing 😞
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But I freaked out so bad. I felt like I had turned right there n then. Yeah, HOCD does that. It's like it spoils your fun. Just yesterday I was talking to my bro about chicks and my mind tried to make it like I dont like chicks. I hate that shit. But I fell really hard yesterday. Feels like back at square one.
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