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I’ve read a book on OCD , and you know that the chance is quite small . I was reading a book by Jonathan Grayson , and he was like certainty is a feeling and an illusion for everyone . I might become a pedophile. I might be a murderer . We kight be living in a false reality . This applies to everyone doesn’t it , we don’t know for sure . We have to accept That uncertainty exists and move on with life. It was harder for me because I have these exact themes . But maybe gives you an ambiguity , a feeling you don’t have to figure it out .
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it just seems wrong in my opinion. like in my case “maybe you’re bi, maybe you aren’t” would work but i think CBT would be a lot better for these types of themes considering CBT is emotion based and figuring out how to manage and identify overwhelming thoughts and challenge them.
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it can be really scary i know, but over time it gets easier and you realize that it's not so much you agreeing with if you'll hurt someone or not but rather letting that thought flow and knowing that you won't act on it. the fact that it disturbs you means you won't act on it. i saw something once that said "if the intrusive thoughts upset you that's good, if they don't then there's a problem." obviously it's easier said then done to just let the thought flow but over time it gets easier because you realize you cant control your thoughts and you aren't your thoughts at all. however i have heard some good feedback from CBT, so maybe try getting a therapist or psychiatrist in your area (or online) to do CBT with you and see how it goes.
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But over time those thoughts shouldn’t upset you as they once did right? We learn a new relationship to our thoughts as we progress.
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@Dre83 yes exactly!! i just meant that you obviously know they're wrong but over time when the thoughts come in they don't upset you as much because you know your values (hopefully this makes sense - i worded it kinda weird the first time).
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@coucou Yeah I was like fuck lol i totally wish they didn’t pop up but they do unfortunately and I just try to move one as best I can.
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@Dre83 ya same lmao, but i just try to remember that i cant control my thoughts and the thoughts are the exact opposite of our values
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@coucou Yeah for real. It’s like I need some sort of anxiety to know that I don’t like these thoughts even if it’s minimal. It’s my personal checking device against the ocd lol
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I have lived with OCD for 20 years with different themes. I will tell you that there is no difference when it comes to uncertainty and different kind of thoughts. All of us have the worst case scenarios. I cant agree with you that the maybe, maybe not dont fit to some themes. My hardest one is contamination OCD, I believe I will kill someone with poison, its in no way an easy one. Dont compare themes. The treatment is the same.
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i wasn’t trying to compare themes, i was just simply empathizing.
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@holley Ok👍
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I find it hard with ROCD too since there are naturally genuine fears in relationships too and how our feelings can effect the relationship. I'm starting my erp here tomorrow and I'm filled with dread. I find this hard because when I say things like that and they say acceptance therapy too I just accept the thoughts as real. People say just let them flow thru you and not about accepting them as real but not reacting to them or letting them be there without performing compulsions and honestly this is where I get stuck. I know if I do thing like this I genuinely accept it as real so I'm filled with dread. I'm doing this whilst on a waiting list for a free therapist who does Ocd with cbt and something else
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This treatment seem scary to me because mine is if I don’t do everything right something bad will happen to my baby so how do I do the thing I think is going to hurt my baby
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I totally see what you mean. It gets me furious at times. It's like how?! But I've come to a few conclusion though through years of self-loathe and even wanting to end my life over these horrifying themes: at the end of the day, what you value is what matters (and your everyday life, think of your life before OCD). Nobody should be tormented and deprived of living over something they may or may not have/be that at the end of day, true or not, wouldn't be something they choose/can change. This is something I would have *not* grasped at the peak of my OCD and earlier in my journey. This experience changes your philosophy as a person. Life is way too short. You experience thoughts of these "but I may be this" for years and in these whole years what has truly affected you is not being/doing these thoughts but *the* worrying about them. Otherwise, the theme has no effect in your reality and day to day life. You know?
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so I need to get back into ERP, but it’s so hard to manage these thoughts and learn to deal with them. like I swear my mind has to make everything about it. Like every time I clean my room, my mind’s like yup make sure it’s clean so when your parents find you, or something so stupid like if I get a headache, my mind convinces me that I like the pain and that that’s why I get my thoughts because I actually want to do it. It’s so exhausting. Because I know I would never want to take my life and I treasure my life so why does it do it to me? It’s hard to comprehend the fact of these thoughts too because I don’t know many people with this exact theme. It’s such a scary feeling. And I’m constantly questioning whether I have actual depression or if it’s just my OCD. Yes I have been diagnosed with suicidal OCD, but my mind still tries to convince me otherwise. I just don’t know how to let these just sit and pass without panicking.
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I find while doing exposures, rarely does my anxiety lessen. It usually amps up and stays that way for the remainder of the day. I could be having a fairly decent day, but dutifully do my exposures and then the rest of my day is anxiety filled. I guess that’s just how it is now? Also, I’m wondering if my therapist even believes I have OCD. I totally understand my therapist cannot provide reassurance. But it’s to the point it seems my therapist acts like I actually did the thing I fear. I feel so isolated.
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I've been told a lot that in order to get better, we need to tolerate uncertainty, which yea I get that and I'm trying every day more and more to reach that point!! But I've also been told that we need to tolerate uncertainty AND "our worst fears becoming true". Like how does that work, especially with POCD, OCD about a///ault, SA and all of that? Like that is really difficult for me and I don't really understand how I'm supposed to just shrug stuff like that off
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