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If you feel it's true and it doesn't cause any distress and you find yourself enjoying the company of people of the same sex in a romatic or sexual manner then yes, you're gay.
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Why did you come to this conclusions? how did you come to know of this
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What do you mean
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@Anonymous I mean why would you think you’re gay and not ocd?
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Well, there’s a lot of information no one here could possibly be privy to make a value judgement on what it is you’re experiencing. If you believe you’re gay, then that’s something you can work towards accepting. If you’re not, then that’s fine, too!
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The thing that helped me really accept uncertainty was to stop framing the whole thing as “I’m either gay or it is ocd”. I started to tell myself “well, maybe I am gay AND I have OCD. But I know that right now I’m miserable and depressed because of the OCD so I’m going to do ERP and work with a therapist to treat it.” That was scary at first but helped me because I no longer ruminated or did compulsions to try to figure out “which one is is, gay or ocd?” I just focused on the OCD treatment. Because when it comes down to it, I just want to be happy and have freedom from the anxiety, no matter what my orientation is, and to lessen the anxiety I had to take the risk and do ERP!
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So why have I been diagnosed with OCD by 6 therapists and told I am not Gay. I was so into girls never questioned anything. 6 therapists plus 2 who were gay said I suffer from severe ocd and I am not Gay
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So into girls and now gay? I don't know how it works but as far as i know sexuality doesn't change overtime. If you were into girls and you like guys you may be bi. There are common misconceptions about human sexuality and one of them is that you can choose and it can change but it's not supposed by any scientific study.
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@Rogan But I was told I wasn’t bisexual aswell and this was just OCd. Even get thoughts of kissing my own brother and dad, any man I see. All my therapist said it’s OcD and I am not Gay or Bi these thoughts torture me ever single day to the point where I would be walking and thinking of anal sex.
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So have I been misled for year by therapists and lied to my ex girlfriend as these thoughts were the cause of our break up. She came to therapy with me and all the said was i have oCd and I am not Gay
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That's hard to judge here without specifics. But judging by what you have told here the whole thing here is suspicious, i don't mean it's suspicious form your side but from the therapists side.
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What do you mean from the therapist have said. I was free of this for 10 years then came back and have been seeing ocd specialist for over 2 years and they said I suffer from severe OcD with all my behaviours and rituals. I am confused what you mean about the therapist side??
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I'm getting confused. Did you feel bad about your sexuality in the first place before the therapists?
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@Rogan I am struggling to understand what you mean I was diagnosed 10 years ago with hOCd and told I wasn’t Gay or Bi. I have suffered with OCd most of my life with light switching, tapping, biting things a certain amount of times but I was seeing a girl years ago who made a comment to me and then that when is started am I gay etc. Then went to therapy and was diagnosed with HOcD and told I wasn’t gay or bi and was just OcD as would start kissing walls, bending over, thoughts abouts kissing friends and work colleagues etc. Yes I felt bad about my sexuality before I saw my therapist because I was like this is non stop 24/7 and now I just feel convinced I am Gay and have been told it’s just OCd and j am not
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@Anonymous Now i see. Since you were diagnosed with other types ocd it was i guess safe to assume that you would sooner or later experience hocd too. It's hard to tell what made your therapist say what they said but what's clear to me is that if a person tells they were so into girls and it really was the casr that it would be super weird to assume that you're gay. Let me explain. Scientists have no data on changing sexuality on its own or be changed even with radical forms of treatments, on the other hand they have a lot of evidence that the sexuality is inborn consequently if you were into girls in a sexual sense it is weird to say you are gay. Bi at best. How did you come to conclusion that you are actually gay? Something about it all doesn't feel right, it feels more like you're traumatized and fed up so much that you don't already know who you are. I'm gay and my sexuality showed itself at my early age i kissed and tried with girls and i felt nothing. I would have a lot to worry about my homosexuality if i felt anything and you tell you were so into girls and you're gay. For me the puzzle doesn't work at all.
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@Rogan Hi Rogan, thanks for the response. What do you mean by what my therapist said? Bit confused in what you mean. You see I was always into girls growing up, peeping Tom, little bit of a perv buying magazines etc. This all started from a comment with a girl I was seeing said that I reminded her of her ex husband who she said was gay and left her for another man.. this was a lie but I didn’t know this at the time and he left her for another women but then I picked up on that comment saying.. saying what I remind you of your ex and started do you think I am Gay, what if I am then all the graphic thoughts started happening, then I would look at men’s crotches 3 times some 5 times, I would bend over and inagine penetration, snog walls, role play on my bed.. everyman I would walk past whether young or old would imagine kissing them. Has these thoughts of my dad last Xmas when stood in front of him and when he was bent over. I even had my ex use a dildo on me to try and confirm if I liked it.. I didn’t but then felt the need to do it again as must of done it wrong. Start measuring my finger length, photocopying them and measuring as apparently some scientist tess about finger length. Saw something a one hair whorls and started taking pictures and looking at other people. Analysing Gay which I get no dislike feeling from anymore and question whether I ever did. I was severely into porn and addicted I would say. I was diagnosed with OCD by the therapist and told i wasn’t Gay... was this wrong Rogan. What do you mean by CASR? What do you mean it’s hard to tell what made my therapist say what they said? It’s just with all the thoughts I gets of kissing men and constantly chasing this dislike feeling that’s doesn’t come but it’s everyone I see even old men sometimes when in front of them. Thanks for the response
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This is my point though Carl I have been diagnosed with OCD by over 6 therapists and told I am not Gay and it’s just OCD... can someone realise they are Gay as I was told Ocd means you’re not.. I also suffer with incest thoughts and PoCD thoughts so do I need to accept I am them too. I am getting confused as o was told OCD meant these are unwanted and intrusive thoughts
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That’s sort of the thing, OCD is about experiencing doubt and being unsure of things. Only a trained specialist can provide a diagnosis, and it sounds like you’ve received several. So, with that in mind, it’s important to consider that when trying to determine what it is you’re experiencing. Is it possible you’re gay? Sure, anything is possible. It’s possible the sun might not rise tomorrow, it’s just the probability is low.
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The fact that you are in loop of thinking about shows it's ocd. In my opinion. I also believe that the fact that you already have got so many types of ocd shows that you're in the risk group of getting hocd. How did you tho come to conclusion that you are actually gay? That's the most important question here.
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@NOCD Advocate - Carl Cornett So I could be Gay then Carl. So does that mean I could be a pedophile also as you never mentioned that in the same sentence? So can that be true also ? So how can it be hOCD, POCD if one realises they are pedophile or gay Carl
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How come you haven’t said it’s possible to be a pedophile in the same sentence then of the others possible.. so are you saying that it’s possible also
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What you are doing right now is harmful to yourself and your ocd recovery. You're not supposed to seek for proof whether you are gay, pedophile or etc. You are supposed to learn to live with uncertainty. Uncertainty doesn't define your sexuality, it doesn't give you any proof about anything, uncertainty is uncertainty and you should live with that. Are you gay? Maybe no and maybe yes. Are you a pedophile? Maybe no maybe yes it all doesn't matter just don't let your mind get stuck on getting proofs of what you are and what you're not.
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@Rogan This is great advice.
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