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Heaven is not dependent on us. But Jesus alone. I’m also struggling with rumination n other things. But it will be okay
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The first part, are you saying that you feel like you have a choice: either (A) something bad happens and you can still go to heaven, or (B) the bad thing will not happen but you can no longer go to heaven?
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yea I feel like I need to make a choice
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@pruni And the last sentence, are you saying you need to spend a lot of time on ruminating or you will automatically not go to heaven?
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well I just spend alot of time ruminating and putting myself in the situation of the bad thing happening to try and decide what I would rather. I just feel like I have to decide or It means I'm agreeing that I would rather the bad thing not happen
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Well, for me, sometimes I have a false choice in my mind: either I go to hell, or someone else does (or goes to a place like it until the earth ends, for a more specific example). Sometimes the choices are different, but it's always something bad, or something bad. Is that the kind of thing you're talking about?
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@Anonymous well I get that too yea. I'll give you an example. would i rather fall out of love with my partner and hurt them or not go to heaven.
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@pruni Yeah, I understand that, and I'm sorry to hear about that. And you know, it's normal for scrupulosity to combine with other types of OCD -- so normal that it is recommended as the very first trigger option in the hierarchy suggestions! I've had mine combine with perfectionism, harm, contamination, "pure", and magical thinking. For me, it was my cats; I'm pretty sure animals don't go to hell (whether or not they go to heaven), so my mind cooked up my specific example previously mentioned. I couldn't sleep in my room for months!!! Among many other compulsions...
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@Anonymous I'm really sorry to hear that but I'm glad your better I hope.
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Yeah, from that one anyway. It's odd that you didn't find anything online about this... I'll pray for you.
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thank you I'll pray for you too.i just have another question do you ever struggle with praying. I think it's moral ocd but when I find myself praying for people struggling I kind of get in my head and worry if I really want them to get better or not.
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@pruni Completely relateable! Intrusive thougts during prayer was my first worse obsession; I think I've had OCD affect me for a while (like, all throughout highschool and some ways before), but one day I had an intrusive thought during a prayer and my mind just snapped and everything went downhill from there. It was last summer that it happened. Do you try to "pray correctly" too? And feel free to talk to me about anything -- I don't mind at all
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@Anonymous yea I always struggle with "praying correctly" I've been struggling with faith for a long time ever since the ocd started
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@pruni When it comes to praying correctly, I tend to try to stop everything I'm doing immediately at any point in time and pray the same thing over and over trying to force my mind into not wandering at all and paying careful attention to the words I pray, while quickly praying in fear of having another intrusive thought; but this has been bothering me less recently And I've also struggled with faith ever since OCD got worse. It's the reason I started to listen to Christian music.
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@Anonymous yea I had that too where I had to stop everything. I really hope you get better I know you can I've seen some improvement with me too. before I went to bed every night I used to spend over an hour praying with my eyes closed and I started having to pray outloud so I got everything right. I didn't know I had ocd then but I stopped one night to see what happened and I was ok but I've struggled with it since.
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@pruni Hope you get better too, and I know God can help us all here
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first post on here, and i almost feel ashamed that its come to this point.. but i really need help. i have a constant fear that everything is bad luck. my brain has decided that certain numbers or words will cause something bad to happen to my family or me, and i really dont want anything to happen. my brain tells me that all of my compulsions are signs from God, and that if i dont listen, He will be disappointed in me. and i become afraid that every small mistake i made results in bad things happening to me. even posting this is terrifying to me, but im running out of options at this point.. i dont want to feel like this anymore, i want to believe in God without these thoughts.
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Hey everyone please help me I am suffering from religious ocd and it is so severe I am also suffering from death fear and this fear making my ocd worse I cannot explain which type of thoughts I am suffering I cannot sleep at night due to fear to go to hell. And this is making my days even more worse I started cry all day cannot do home chores due to fear irrational fears has been generated and my mind force me to say bad words about prestigious figures which I cannot imagine even then I start weeping and asking forgiveness to God and started to say I am not doing then feelings become more worse and all stuff become trigger I don't know i am doing it by self or not? Need help I cannot sleep even in day please save me.
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Have you ever felt like you're trying to convince yourself rhat these thoughts are from OCD and not you because you don't believe that you're that crazy or bad? But at the same time you feel panic when you have these thoughts?
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